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      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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Joh 12:19  The Pharisees therefore said among themselves, Perceive ye how ye prevail nothing? behold, the world is gone after him.

To the Pharisees, israel pretty much was the entire world, or all they cared about.

 

 

 

Do we not say "Give my regards to everybody"?  When we don't mean everybody?

 

The French would say "Toute la monde", i.e. 'all the world.'  when we would say everybody. 

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"He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:11-13

 

How is this to be understood?

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Do we not say "Give my regards to everybody"?  When we don't mean everybody?

 

The French would say "Toute la monde", i.e. 'all the world.'  when we would say everybody. 

Again we are dealing with the Bible recording the words of men, not the words of God. the Pharisees said the whole world had gone after Him-a true recording of an exaggerated statement made by sinners. Two of your three examples are just that-the bible recording that which was said by men. the third, being the words of God by Agabus, and a dearth throughout the whole world-again, there's no reason to say there wasn't a dearth through the entire world.

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For God so loved the world(encompassing the Mediterranean Sea) that He gave.........

For God so loved the world(conquered by the Romans) that He gave.........

For God so loved the world(conquered by the Romans, and He later loved the Native Americans after 1492) that He gave.........

For God so loved the world(conquered by the Romans, and later loved the Native Americans, the Australian Aborigines, Filipinos and Pacific Islanders) that He gave.........

 

Bible check for me...Does any of you guys have a KJB that reads that way?

Why make it hard? God Almighty said "for God so loved the world". He didn't do a slipshod, slacker, incomplete jOB friends, He loved it ALL. He didn't leave anyone out. He fills space and eternity and His love isn't partial either. You and I have partial, exclusive love...but He doesn't. If you love your enemies, then you're getting close to being like God. That's what His Holy Word says.

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That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

"He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:11-13

 

How is this to be understood?

It seems that the light of creation, to which was added the light of Jesus' incarnation, did not make Jesus known for salvation.

 

"His own" refers to his people Israel, who as a nation did not receive him.

 

Those who did receive him became children of God, because they were born of God. Human ancestry (descent from Abraham) did not & does nor save. God saves.

 

The text ends the argument as to whether faith or rebirth come first. Everyone with saving faith has been born again, & everyone born again has saving faith.

 

Whether the text is "calvinistic" or otherwise would be a fruitless argument. You MUST be born again, & that isn't something we are unaware of. To be born again, you must receive Christ as LORD & Saviour.

 

 

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I don't expect anyone reading the thread to accept the doctrines of grace, but I do expect respect from opponents. "Calvinists" like Invicta & myself serve our Saviour God in our churches, alongside non-calvinists - most of whom are unaware of the doctrine.

 

We are concerned that our God will bring sinners to repentance & salvation through the power of his Holy Spirit as his word is preached, & received, & hearts are opened.

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These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
 

This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners;

 

He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

 

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

 

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

 

But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

 

But God...

 

But God...

 

But God...

 

God bless,

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11  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15  As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16  And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one 
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One more check to see if anyone else has insight.

 

1 Timothy 4:10

 

John 1:11-13

 

I asked about these verses, in separate postings, and I received one response to each (thank you Mike and Covenanter).

 

Does anyone else have anything to share about how either of these verses are to be understood and how they apply (or not) to this topic?

 

Thank you.

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11  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15  As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16  And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one 

 

 

Jesus saying he died for the sheep does not mean he did not die for all men. 

 

If I say I love my children, does that mean I hate all other children?

 

This is reading Calvinism into scripture when it is not there. 

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11  I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
12  But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.
13  The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
14  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.
15  As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16  And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one 

 

2 sheep here:

 

"THE sheep"-that's everyone, the world

 

"MY sheep", those that are of Christ's flock.

 

I keep sheep, and goats, but there are other sheep that aren't mine.

 

Jesus died for ALL sheep, yet only some become part of His flock. 

 

And please, don't anyone bring up the sheep and the goats judgment, because then I will bring up that the sheep there weren't born again, because they are judged on their works, not thier relationship to Christ.  I will also metion that goats in the OT are one of the holy animals before the Lord, and in some cases, like the Passover feast, they are interchangable with the lamb. Technically, Jesus COULD be considered the Passover Goat Kid of God.

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have any of you taken time to read Brother Ricks's teaching 'trampling through the tulips"?

 

It is done in a way he is not trying to offend I would haver called it "tip toeing through the tulips".  Just Joking of course.

 

It is very informative

 

Go here to read it.  '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>>

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have any of you taken time to read Brother Ricks's teaching 'trampling through the tulips"?

 

It is done in a way he is not trying to offend I would haver called it "tip toeing through the tulips".  Just Joking of course.

 

It is very informative

 

Go here to read it.  '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>>

I had lots of friendly conversations with Rick - last heard rejoicing in the birth of their 4th baby.

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Covenanter, on 28 Jul 2014 - 11:26 AM, said:snapback.png

Our church begins our Holiday Bible Club at 1 p.m. today. It will run all week. Previous years we have up to 70 children, mostly from non-Christian families.

It went very well, with the Gospel of Jesus preached to a total of 76 children (& many parents) through the deliverance of the Israelites from Egypt. Lots of enthusiastic singing. e.g.

God is a Holy God,

we can't be friends because of our sin.

Jesus died to cleanse our sin; when we put our trust in him,

God opens his arms & welcomes us in.

It's not on Youtube.

 

About 15 of the youngsters are regulars in the church, & we are reinforcing the message with the memory texts & songs. Some parents come with younger children to our "Stay & play" morning.

 

And mid week we had news from a Christian camp in Wales that one of our youngsters had come to repentance & faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. He gave his testimony in the church on Sunday.

 

Please pray for Ezekiel (13) & his godly mother, Lisa & his younger brother Elijah.

 

12 years ago, the church was reduced to fewer than 10 elderly English, who were unable to reach out. Pastor ROBin is a Pakistani believer who came with the support of the "home missions" of our group of churches. About six years ago he married a converted Sikh. Our congregation now is 30-40, including children.

 

Do "Calvinism" & Reformed doctrine hinder our outreach & service? I hope you agree that they do NOT.

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Hello Ian

 

Great news about that young Person,

 

Would that camp be at the CCIW camps?

 

Some of our members go to a later one at CCIW and this year they are going on the 17th August.  One coupl;e are in charge of all the catering for the camp and last year they catered for about 120 including helpers.  Our back hall is filled with cans of food, etc and the feeezer is full with meat.  The camp is somewhat remote and they have to take all the food with them.  They spent all last week cooking and they were continuing today.  Some of our younger members are also going as tent leaders.

 

My two eldest grandchildren were helping on a beach mission at Lyme Regis for the last two weeks.  The local council tried to stop them but after discussions have given them permission to continue for three years then they will review the situation.

 

Their mum, my daughter; has gone to Folkestone today to help with a camp at Grace Baptist Church, Folkestone. 

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It went very well, with the Gospel of Jesus preached to a total of 76 children (& many parents) through the deliverance of the Israelites from Egypt. Lots of enthusiastic singing. e.g.

God is a Holy God,

we can't be friends because of our sin.

Jesus died to cleanse our sin; when we put our trust in him,

God opens his arms & welcomes us in.

It's not on Youtube.

 

About 15 of the youngsters are regulars in the church, & we are reinforcing the message with the memory texts & songs. Some parents come with younger children to our "Stay & play" morning.

 

And mid week we had news from a Christian camp in Wales that one of our youngsters had come to repentance & faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. He gave his testimony in the church on Sunday.

 

Please pray for Ezekiel (13) & his godly mother, Lisa & his younger brother Elijah.

 

12 years ago, the church was reduced to fewer than 10 elderly English, who were unable to reach out. Pastor ROBin is a Pakistani believer who came with the support of the "home missions" of our group of churches. About six years ago he married a converted Sikh. Our congregation now is 30-40, including children.

 

Do "Calvinism" & Reformed doctrine hinder our outreach & service? I hope you agree that they do NOT.

I saw the camp leaflet this morning (at our prayer meeting) & noticed the Chaplain was Matthew Jones, Elder at the church attended by one of my sons. Wall Heath Evangelical Free Church.

 

May these special occasions & camps be blessed by the salvation of many.

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