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      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Nfl Draft Sealed With A Homosexual Kiss


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NFL Draft Sealed With a Homosexual Kiss

 

We’ve been told that this is not about sex or sexuality. This is about football. This is about civil rights. This is about the latest incarnation of Jackie ROBinson.

 

Well, if you actually believed all the hype, you might want to think again. The NFL draft was sealed with a homosexual kiss.

 

It was already outlandish for our president and other national leaders to celebrate the fact that a top college football player, Michael Sam, announced, “I want the world to know I’m attracted to other men” (my paraphrase). That was groundbreaking, major news?

 

It was already outlandish for Sam to be getting major endorsement offers despite the likelihood that he would be a late draft pick (if drafted at all). As OBservers noted, this was completely unprecedented.

 

It was already outlandish for Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, to say, “I want to see Michael Sam get an opportunity to play in the NFL,” especially in light of his claim, stated in the very next sentence, that, “We like to say the NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play football, they want to see you play. The teams want you. The fans want you. And that’s ultimately what it’s all about.”

 

Well, if that what it’s all about, if it’s simply a matter of football ability, then why make such a big deal out of this one player?

 

If it’s simply a matter of merit, why were there fears that it would be a PR disaster if Sam wasn’t drafted? Why should Goodell express his desire that Sam gets an opportunity to play if it’s just a matter of which player is best suited to play in the league? Or will the NFL (and other leagues) soon be required to have a gay quota?

 

It turns out that the NFL was able to avoid the feared PR disaster when the St. Louis Rams drafted Sam in the seventh round as the 249th pick (putting him dangerously near the end of the picks), with Rams’ coach Jeff Fisher making the appropriate comments, namely, “In the world of diversity we live in now, I’m honored to be a part of this and I’m excited about his opportunity to help this football team win.” 

 

But no sooner was Sam’s pick announced that the NFL had a new issue to deal with (or celebrate?): its first homosexual kiss.

 

Yes, in an emotional moment played endlessly on the airwaves and captured in still photos that made the headlines, Sam and his boyfriend hugged and exchanged a brief kiss as the NFL officially welcomed its first openly gay player.

 

So much for this not being about sex or sexuality. So much for this being about what’s best for the team. And heaven forbid you express any displeasure with this homosexual moment, especially if you’re an NFL player or coach. All perceived “homophOBia” will be prosecuted sternly.

 

Miami Dolphins’ player Don Jones already found himself in trouble when he tweeted out “OMG” and “horrible” in response to the gay kiss.

 

He quickly deleting the tweets, but not before coming under criticism from Dolphins’ general manager Dennis Hickey, who stated, “I was made aware of it and I was disappointed in those comments. That’s not what we stand for as an organization.”

 

So, as an organization, the Miami Dolphins have a prOBlem with one of their players expressing his dissatisfaction with two men kissing on camera? This is what Jeff Fisher means by the “world of diversity we live in now”? (I’m wondering how common it is to see a male college player kissing his girlfriend on screen after being drafted, which makes the Michael Sam moment stand out all the more.)

 

Not only, then, must Sam’s teammates embrace him without the least expression of discomfort in the locker room or elsewhere (perhaps when he’s with his boyfriend too?), but the entire league must embrace him kissing his boyfriend without the least expression of discomfort. After all, we are told, this is what the league now stands for.

 

And so, after the much-ballyhooed annual draft event, the big talk is not about the No. 1 pick, Jadeveon Clowney, or quarterback sensation Johnny Manziel being picked No. 22. It’s about pick No. 249. And it’s about the NFL’s first homosexual kiss.

 

And I almost forgot. This is not about sex or sexuality. It’s just about football. And anyone who isn’t celebrating this moment is a homophOBe.

 

Right.

 

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/43815-nfl-draft-sealed-with-a-homosexual-kiss

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Fox News seemed to love this story and especially showing the homosexual player crying on the phone with his "boyfriend" hugging him and caressing his arm and then kissing.

 

So called conservative commentators and Republicans on Fox News were all quick to support this, express their pleasure with the NFL embrassing open homosexuality and speaking of anyone who disagrees in harsh tones.

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My son told me about this yesterday, when we went out for lunch.  He and his friends were grossed out.  I am not surprised.  Golf appears the only sport where their are a smattering of born again believers.  I have listened to many golfers, give praise and thanks to the Lord Jesus Christ, after a win.  Many have also given their testimonies.  Golfers also have a morning service before the day starts during a Sunday tournament.  I am sure there are believers in other sports, but they are not outspoken about their Christian faith. 

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Just one of the many reasons I don't watch FOX or football anymore.  Well, when Don Shula retired what point was there in continuing to watch football anyway?  hehehe

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Just one of the many reasons I don't watch FOX or football anymore.  Well, when Don Shula retired what point was there in continuing to watch football anyway?  hehehe

 

Don Shula was awesome, swath!

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Funny thing is, this guy (Michael Sam) is not of the size to be placed in important positions - but will most likely be put first string instead of what he should for his ability because of what he is, not his ability.

 

Miami Dolphins player Don Jones was fined, suspended and sent to sensitivity training (for social media) for tweeting that it was horrible.  Derrick Wood, another player, has tweeted quite a bit about how inappropriate it was - claiming in one tweet that he was fine with it (meaning gays, I'm guessing), but not on national tv, that it was disgusting, kids watched, etc.  Later he tweeted that people needed to read their Bibles because it would tell them what was wrong.  That tweet didn't quite mesh with his earlier one about being fine with it.  Wood actually blocked at least 39 people from his twitter account because of the garbage they were spewing against what he was saying.

 

sigh.  Teams have a right to suspend their players if they want to.  But to do so because one expresses their dislike of gay kissing is reprehensible, IMO.  Three percent of the population is being force-fed down our throats via the media and political correctness/non-hate speech. And yet, one can't pray in Jesus' name...

 

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Funny thing is, this guy (Michael Sam) is not of the size to be placed in important positions - but will most likely be put first string instead of what he should for his ability because of what he is, not his ability.

 

Miami Dolphins player Don Jones was fined, suspended and sent to sensitivity training (for social media) for tweeting that it was horrible.  Derrick Wood, another player, has tweeted quite a bit about how inappropriate it was - claiming in one tweet that he was fine with it (meaning gays, I'm guessing), but not on national tv, that it was disgusting, kids watched, etc.  Later he tweeted that people needed to read their Bibles because it would tell them what was wrong.  That tweet didn't quite mesh with his earlier one about being fine with it.  Wood actually blocked at least 39 people from his twitter account because of the garbage they were spewing against what he was saying.

 

sigh.  Teams have a right to suspend their players if they want to.  But to do so because one expresses their dislike of gay kissing is reprehensible, IMO.  Three percent of the population is being force-fed down our throats via the media and political correctness/non-hate speech. And yet, one can't pray in Jesus' name...

 

:scratchchin:

 

My son was telling me about all the tweets.  He and his friends were so upset about it.  He mentioned something about Derrick Wood, but I didn't know that Wood talked about people reading their Bibles.  I might not have caught that in our conversation yesterday.  While it is extremely sad, the Devil working overtime, the flesh of man, and the sins in the world, I am grateful that Wood is a Bible-believing Christian.  Maybe Wood can encourage those Christians who are silent to speak out.  Maybe that is just wishful thinking on my part, though.

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I don't know if he's a Bible-believing Christian or not.  He never spoke about Jesus, the morality of it, or anything. Just the one comment about reading the Bible and seeing that it said.  It was good to read, though, because at least someone is acknowledging that God has something to say about it!

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I don't know if he's a Bible-believing Christian or not.  He never spoke about Jesus, the morality of it, or anything. Just the one comment about reading the Bible and seeing that it said.  It was good to read, though, because at least someone is acknowledging that God has something to say about it!

That makes more sense.  I didn't think my son mentioned it.  He would remember that.  Very true.  It is so difficult to get the lost to acknowledge God much less bring Jesus into a conversation.  The saints have to be so diligent for the cause of Jesus Christ.  What a good reminder on how we need to pray for these poor souls.

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Just one of the many reasons I don't watch FOX or football anymore. Well, when Don Shula retired what point was there in continuing to watch football anyway? hehehe

Oops! You meant Ditka.

Fox was never Conservative.
Fox was labeled "conservative" by the Commies, because it attempted to provide more than one view, or a more centrist one.

So many Christians got caught up in the one non-Commie news source, that they let their guard down, and believed that they were safe with Fox.

So, now, U.S. Christianity is one step closer to Rome, and The Son of Perdition's Israel.

This was done on purpose by Satan.
He has been offering false hope through knowledge to believers since Eden.

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Oops! You meant Ditka.

Fox was never Conservative.
Fox was labeled "conservative" by the Commies, because it attempted to provide more than one view, or a more centrist one.

So many Christians got caught up in the one non-Commie news source, that they let their guard down, and believed that they were safe with Fox.

So, now, U.S. Christianity is one step closer to Rome, and The Son of Perdition's Israel.

This was done on purpose by Satan.
He has been offering false hope through knowledge to believers since Eden.

Anishinaabe

 

IMO, Don Shula was great too, prophet.  Ditka goes without saying.  :)

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Just one of the many reasons I don't watch FOX or football anymore.  Well, when Don Shula retired what point was there in continuing to watch football anyway?  hehehe

 

Don who? :icon_confused:

 

Oh, maybe you meant Don Ho the Hawaiian guy. You forgot his name so you typed Don Hula (Hawaiian) but the "s" slipped in there.

 

Still, I don't know what "Tiny Bubbles" has to do with football.

 

Oh well...Aloha oe! :Bolt:

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NFL Draft Sealed With a Homosexual Kiss

 

We’ve been told that this is not about sex or sexuality. This is about football. This is about civil rights. This is about the latest incarnation of Jackie ROBinson.

 

Well, if you actually believed all the hype, you might want to think again. The NFL draft was sealed with a homosexual kiss.

 

It was already outlandish for our president and other national leaders to celebrate the fact that a top college football player, Michael Sam, announced, “I want the world to know I’m attracted to other men” (my paraphrase). That was groundbreaking, major news?

 

It was already outlandish for Sam to be getting major endorsement offers despite the likelihood that he would be a late draft pick (if drafted at all). As OBservers noted, this was completely unprecedented.

 

It was already outlandish for Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the NFL, to say, “I want to see Michael Sam get an opportunity to play in the NFL,” especially in light of his claim, stated in the very next sentence, that, “We like to say the NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play football, they want to see you play. The teams want you. The fans want you. And that’s ultimately what it’s all about.”

 

Well, if that what it’s all about, if it’s simply a matter of football ability, then why make such a big deal out of this one player?

 

If it’s simply a matter of merit, why were there fears that it would be a PR disaster if Sam wasn’t drafted? Why should Goodell express his desire that Sam gets an opportunity to play if it’s just a matter of which player is best suited to play in the league? Or will the NFL (and other leagues) soon be required to have a gay quota?

 

It turns out that the NFL was able to avoid the feared PR disaster when the St. Louis Rams drafted Sam in the seventh round as the 249th pick (putting him dangerously near the end of the picks), with Rams’ coach Jeff Fisher making the appropriate comments, namely, “In the world of diversity we live in now, I’m honored to be a part of this and I’m excited about his opportunity to help this football team win.” 

 

But no sooner was Sam’s pick announced that the NFL had a new issue to deal with (or celebrate?): its first homosexual kiss.

 

Yes, in an emotional moment played endlessly on the airwaves and captured in still photos that made the headlines, Sam and his boyfriend hugged and exchanged a brief kiss as the NFL officially welcomed its first openly gay player.

 

So much for this not being about sex or sexuality. So much for this being about what’s best for the team. And heaven forbid you express any displeasure with this homosexual moment, especially if you’re an NFL player or coach. All perceived “homophOBia” will be prosecuted sternly.

 

Miami Dolphins’ player Don Jones already found himself in trouble when he tweeted out “OMG” and “horrible” in response to the gay kiss.

 

He quickly deleting the tweets, but not before coming under criticism from Dolphins’ general manager Dennis Hickey, who stated, “I was made aware of it and I was disappointed in those comments. That’s not what we stand for as an organization.”

 

So, as an organization, the Miami Dolphins have a prOBlem with one of their players expressing his dissatisfaction with two men kissing on camera? This is what Jeff Fisher means by the “world of diversity we live in now”? (I’m wondering how common it is to see a male college player kissing his girlfriend on screen after being drafted, which makes the Michael Sam moment stand out all the more.)

 

Not only, then, must Sam’s teammates embrace him without the least expression of discomfort in the locker room or elsewhere (perhaps when he’s with his boyfriend too?), but the entire league must embrace him kissing his boyfriend without the least expression of discomfort. After all, we are told, this is what the league now stands for.

 

And so, after the much-ballyhooed annual draft event, the big talk is not about the No. 1 pick, Jadeveon Clowney, or quarterback sensation Johnny Manziel being picked No. 22. It’s about pick No. 249. And it’s about the NFL’s first homosexual kiss.

 

And I almost forgot. This is not about sex or sexuality. It’s just about football. And anyone who isn’t celebrating this moment is a homophOBe.

 

Right.

 

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/in-the-line-of-fire/43815-nfl-draft-sealed-with-a-homosexual-kiss

 

 

 

 

She/he will be hurt the first season, Next...    :threadlockedbc5:

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I honestly don't care what people do in their personal lives.  I work with a gay man and it does not bother me at all, and we have developed a good friendship.  He is an excellent lawyer, and I gladly work with him.

 

I don't see whey this is a big deal either way.  He is a gay man.  He is a good football player.  If he can do the jOB, then I am not sure why people are upset or jubilant about this.  Media likes it because it is a splashy story.  But in reality, if he is a good player, he will do well in the NFL.  If he is not, then he will ultimately be cut, or placed on the practice squad. 

 

People are making much ado over nothing, really.  Media likes it because it sells papers and drives traffic to their website.  If it didn't, they wouldn't report it.  But in the grand scheme of things, this is a man who was happy who expressed his joy with this significant other.  Whether you agree with his lifestyle or not, it is his life and his choice, and it has no impact on anyone but himself. 

 

This won't make me watch the NFL, or follow a team, or not follow a team.  It won't change my life at all.  It is completely outside of my realm of influence or even outside of my realm of interest. 

 

Let's move on, shall we?

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I do appreciate the fact that you are moving on.  Bye. :th_tiphat:

Unfortunately I can't  . . . . flaw in my character I guess.  

 

God bless,

Larry

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Doing something in their personal lives and flaunting in on national tv are two totally different things. God calls it an abomination.  Hence so do I.

 

Also, getting fined and suspended like that one player when you speak out against it should be cause for concern.

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Yes, very much cause for concern. "Sensitivity training" is one short step away from a "re-education camp"; and we've seen what happens in countries that have gone that route.

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Don who? :icon_confused:

 

Oh, maybe you meant Don Ho the Hawaiian guy. You forgot his name so you typed Don Hula (Hawaiian) but the "s" slipped in there.

 

Still, I don't know what "Tiny Bubbles" has to do with football.

 

Oh well...Aloha oe! :Bolt:

 

DON SHULA!  The winningest coach in NFL history, at least when he retired.  He was head coach of the Miami Dolphins from 1970-1995 and of course was coach when the '72 Dolphins had their perfect 17-0 season!  Haven't you heard their song?

 

  :clapping:

 

 

Yes, very much cause for concern. "Sensitivity training" is one short step away from a "re-education camp"; and we've seen what happens in countries that have gone that route.

 

It is the re-education camp.  It tells the offender, we don't like your values so we're going to force you to accept ours in this class or else.

 

If these other players cared more about principles, values and the things of God if they were Christian, they would gladly defy the NFL and speak, condemn the NFL and the sodomite players.

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