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Yes, they overthrew the Roman Empire. And THEN set up kingdoms. Most of them joined together to create the kingdoms (for example, the Angles, the Saxons, and the Jutes in Britain). They were not the 10 kingdoms of prophecy.  Depending on the historian, there were more than 10 tribes and less than 10 tribes. Tribes originated in family groups - not just dad and children, but also cousins, etc. Tribes joining together created kingdoms. As even you said, AFTER the overthrow (which came, in part, from several of the Germanic tribes integrating into Roman life - joining the army, learning to read and write, accepting much of the Roman religion, etc).

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Older historians instead of Anglo Saxons have Allens.  Of course Anglo Saxons were later. My Funk and Wagnell's says the Angles and Saxons came from around the same town in Saxony.  John says many antichrists have gone out from us, i.e. the church.  They were apostate Christians.  The papacy is the most apostate christian kingdom on earth.  The name should give you a clue, he was to be antichrist, or antichristian.  The papacy overthrew three of the 10 kingdoms  The Heruli under Odacer in 493,the Vandals in 534 and the Ostrogoths in 553, thus setting up the papal states over which he ruled as absolute dictator until 1870 when his dominion was taken away, Dan 7:27.  From that year the only possession he had was the Vatican Palace, where he sulked and refused to leave until Mussolini gave him Vatican city in the 1920s.  The next great event according to Dan. 7 is the saints taking the kingdom, showing that the end is near.

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13 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

Sorry, but they were not the 10 kingdoms of prophecy.

Totally correct.Good post. The listing of any tribes, kingdoms, etc... throughout history is irrelevant.  

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No, we're not. Historians do not agree on the number of tribes that brought down the Roman Empire so there is no way to definitively quote one or two and say, Voila! Here's the answer!

You are trying to wrest clans and chieftains into kings and kingdoms to justify your belief that prophecy of Revelation has already taken place. It has not.

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Jutes helped settle Britain. That was part of the Roman Empire. And, yes, it is believed to have been. The Cimbri (whom Strabo claimed were Germanic but others believed were Celtic...) lived there and paid tribute to Augustus. Before the fall of Rome.

In point of fact, to highlight the disagreement amongst historians, some believed the Jutes to be the Geats of  Sweden, while others think they might have been Goths. Others believe them to have been associated with the Saxons. 

My point being: there were lots of different groups of people - more than 10 - who helped bring down the Roman Empire. None of them were established kingdoms. And historians cannot agree on the number because these peoples were nomadic. 

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4 minutes ago, HappyChristian said:

Jutes helped settle Britain. That was part of the Roman Empire. And, yes, it is believed to have been. The Cimbri (whom Strabo claimed were Germanic but others believed were Celtic...) lived there and paid tribute to Augustus.

That was later.  They came from Jutland. The Normans (Norsemen) settled in Britain, but they came from France where they settled from Northern Scandinavia   If I remember our history correctly, the Romans withdrew from Britain to concentrate their energies in Europe.

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Yes,I know it was later. And, yes, the Jutes came from Jutland. Unless some historians are right and they came from Sweden. Mayhap the Jutes were a combination of Geats and Goths. :unsure:

 Britain was no longer part of the Empire after 410 (possibly 409). That has nothing to do with the fact that Angles, Saxons, and Jutes fought Rome and aided in its fall. And then went on to settle in Britain.

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2 hours ago, John81 said:

Do you know who these ten kings are and how they will accomplish this?

They will come to power with the antichrist after the rapture. 2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 explains that God will cause the people that heard the truth of the gospel but rejected Jesus to believe the lie of the antichrist. God gives the crown to the antichrist who will ride the white horse in the 6th seal. The nations of the western powers who once believed in Jesus will follow the antichrist. NATO will be his army to devour the earth.

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1 hour ago, Eric Stahl said:

They will come to power with the antichrist after the rapture. 2 Thessalonians 2:6-12 explains that God will cause the people that heard the truth of the gospel but rejected Jesus to believe the lie of the antichrist. God gives the crown to the antichrist who will ride the white horse in the 6th seal. The nations of the western powers who once believed in Jesus will follow the antichrist. NATO will be his army to devour the earth.

There are many more than ten formerly "Christian" nations in the West.

How can NATO, which is mostly America, devour the earth?

Just what does "devour the earth" mean?

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