Is Birth Control Ok With Jesus?

[swathdiver]

Don't the psalms teach us that God knew us and had a plan for us even before we existed?  

 

Don't children belong to God?  

 

Aren't we SUPPOSED to SEEK YE FIRST the Kingdom of God?

 

Birth control and abortion has made this country, this world, even more selfish and self destructive.    

[Eric Stahl]

Don't the psalms teach us that God knew us and had a plan for us even before we existed?  

 

Don't children belong to God?  

 

Aren't we SUPPOSED to SEEK YE FIRST the Kingdom of God?

 

Birth control and abortion has made this country, this world, even more selfish and self destructive.    

Psalm 139:13-16

13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

¹⁴I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

¹⁵My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

¹⁶Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

[Musician4God1611]

I think the term "birth control" is sometimes isolated to a few extreme forms of birth control. As DaveW mentioned, Abstinence, Timing, and Barriers are all forms of birth control. However, the most effective, and by far the most wholesome for of birth control is prayer.

[TheSword]

I'll offer my experience and what my wife and I learned from it; hopefully it'll add to the understanding of birth control.

 

My wife (who is an RN) was on the pill form of birth control when we were first married because we wanted to wait a couple years before having kids so that we could focus on learning how to be the husband/wife the other deserved. At at about the year mark, we got pregnant anyway despite being on the pill. At 7 weeks she had an abruption (the placenta began to tear away from the uterus). The baby died around 11-12 weeks.

 

What we learned...the pill does not prevent an egg from being fertilized. As a couple different people pointed out above, it prevents the embryo, which is fertilized in the filloppian tube, from attaching to the uterine wall. It does this by altering hormone patterns to force the woman's body into her monthly "cycle" whereby the uterus sheds its wall/lining in order to purge any eggs that may have attached and keep the wall fresh and ready for an embryo the next time. Therefore, every monthly cycle may or may not be purging an embryo. When a woman is on birth control for an extended period of time, her body attempts to stay in this pattern because when hormones are artificially manipulated the glands that produce them are altered as well. That's why it sometimes takes months or years for a woman coming off birth control to get pregnant.

 

Well, what happened in our case is that despite getting pregnant and coming off the pill, my wife's hormones were still off and her uterus did what it had been conditioned to do...shed the lining and anything attached to it. We lost our precious baby because of this and it was devastating. Never again. Thankfully, the Lord is merciful and forgiving, and has blessed us with two amazingly beautiful boys so far despite how we messed up His first gift.

 

In truth, the pill is no more preventative than is the abortion drug because it doesn't stop fertilization. It only stops implantation and development by altering the woman's hormones. I believe life begins at conception, therefore I believe (now, sadly did not always) that the only valid forms of birth control are those which prevent the egg from being fertilized in the first place. I'm in full agreement with DaveW and musician4god1611. I don't think there is anything wrong with planning the timing of the family so long as we also recognize that our plans come second to God's plans. My wife and I always like to say "We plan, God laughs" because really, the only foolproof method for birth control is abstinence, God has proven to circuMVent all other methods when He sees fit.

[candlelight]

Man made inventions like the birth control pill and other forms of stopping pregnancy are linked to Ovarian Cancer in women.  I'm not saying that a woman won't get OC if she isn't taking a form of birth control, but her chances are greater.  My MIL was a pregnancy counselor at a Christian woman's center for several years.  She counseled women from puberty until old age.  She worked with pregnant women, to teach them how to care for their babies, or in the event that couldn't happen, they put the baby up for adoption.  Birth control was not an option, but abstinence was.  

"I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions." ~ Proverbs 8:12

[2bLikeJesus]

Thank you Sword for your intelligent, medically based, and unfortunately from tragic personal experience about the pill form of birth control.  There is no way, I could ever condone it's use in light of what you have revealed.  I do not believe I could condone an IUD either if I understand how it functions.  I am still left with some sort of barrier method that absolutely prevents conception.  I am not married now, but if I were, in my experience, abstinence would not be a viable option.  My interest in this topic was not for me personally though, it was for the many RCC members in my family, one of which has 6 children now and is desperately seeking a biblical way out of having even more.  He has turned to me as the bible expert, and I am failing on finding definitive bible principles or references that I can take a dogmatic stand on.  When faced with such problems before, when the bible is silent on an issue, I find I can only rely on what can be known about God's nature and attributes, and from that knowledge form a conviction that I believe will best please God as I know Him.  So in essence what I have been gleaning from this thread is feedback on the nature and attributes of God that I can use. 

 

Bro. Garry

[TheSword]

I'd recommend, perhaps, a vasectomy; but again...God has shown he can get around even that one because there are tons of cases where everything grew back on its own without being reconnected. Maybe the only medical way to be 100% sure an egg will not be fertilized is a total hysterectomy (they take out the uterus and ovaries completely)...not something most women are eager to do or abstinence (not something most married couples are eager to do). I, personally, don't see a problem with a vasectomy if that's what he would choose to do, but ultimately, if God wants someone to have a child...well there's really no stopping the will of God, which is always better for us in the long run anyway.

[swathdiver]

I had one and regret it.

[ASongOfDegrees]

I've noticed that women who use the pill or other methods of birth control have health problems related to that later on in life. It's possible that altering the natural course of nature leads to health problems down the road.

 

It's been proven that women who have abortions also have a higher rate of cancer though this information has been suppressed by feminists.

 

I also know of a lot of women, particularly in my family, who had tubal litigation that have had a lot of problems later on in life including cancer of the uterus. 

 

I've heard too that men who have had a vasectomy have problems with their eyes later on in life (also associated with Viagra) as well as a higher risk for prostrate cancer.