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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

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Genesis 6:4

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

That phrase is not speaking of "at a later time". The punctuation alone should make you question that. Look up the definitions of the word "after". Then read the phrase in Genesis i "after his kind".

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That phrase is not speaking of "at a later time". The punctuation alone should make you question that. Look up the definitions of the word "after". Then read the phrase in Genesis i "after his kind".

 

 

The colon is to inform the reader that what follows the colon proves, explains, defines, describes, or lists elements of what preceded it.

 

Therefore, the phrase, "and after that" is speaking of a time after those days when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men. 

 

It can't be denied that there were giants on this earth AFTER the flood and this was as result of WHEN the sons of God cohabitated with the daughters of men.

 

As I explained in another post this is why every people associated with these giants were to be completely wiped out. It will also tell you that the next time God will put a big hurting on this planet is when this will occur again when Satan and his angels are cast out of heaven in Revelation 12. 

 

As in the days of Noah...

 

"And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward:"

 

"And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said."

 

"And her brother and her mother said, Let the damsel abide with us a few days, at the least ten; after that she shall go."

 

"And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them."

 

"Moreover he kissed all his brethren, and wept upon them: and after that his brethren talked with him."

 

"And I will stretch out my hand, and smite Egypt with all my wonders which I will do in the midst thereof: and after that he will let you go."

 

 "And seven days were fulfilled, after that the LORD had smitten the river."

 

"And he that is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, and shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean: and after that he shall come into the camp, and shall tarry abroad out of his tent seven days."

 

There are many other verses where the term is used like this but these are just a few.

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2Ch 18:19

And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

Luk 15:4

What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

1Cr 1:21

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

1Cr 7:7

For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
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2Ch 18:19

And the LORD said, Who shall entice Ahab king of Israel, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one spake saying after this manner, and another saying after that manner.

Luk 15:4

What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?

1Cr 1:21

For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

1Cr 7:7

For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

 

Yeah, brother, but in the context of the passage in Genesis the phrase as it is used in the verses you supply wouldn't make any sense. The author of Genesis (Moses) used the phrase to refer to a succession of time and an event that took place again. 

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If it had been punctuated like this, I would agree.

 

Genesis 6:4

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that. When the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

 

 

 

But it still cannot be speaking of "later in time" because This and This both happened "in those days"

 

Genesis 6:4

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after thatwhen the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

It does not make sense to leave one "sentence" and then pick up another without a period and then capitalizing the next word. This is because "and also after that" and "when the sons of God......." are both part of the same sentence, speaking about the same thing, Am I making sense?

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If it had been punctuated like this, I would agree.

 

Genesis 6:4

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that. When the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

 

 

 

But it still cannot be speaking of "later in time" because This and This both happened "in those days"

 

Genesis 6:4

4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after thatwhen the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

 

It does not make sense to leave one "sentence" and then pick up another without a period and then capitalizing the next word. This is because "and also after that" and "when the sons of God......." are both part of the same sentence, speaking about the same thing, Am I making sense?

The use of the semicolon indicates a shift in thought, but not completely out of context. Thus, we have two subjects, but both are in the same context of time. These two things were happening at this basic time, the time that God was finalizing His time of patience with that world: 1: there were giants in the earth. Okay, giants lived then. Semicolon and also after that, (same general time period, same world) when this event occurred, (the SOG came in unto the DOM, etc, etc) represents a second thing occurring. Two separate facts, connected by the fact that they are both during the pre-flood/post-Eden world.

 

For instance: "There was a great TV show on yesterday; and also after that, when I went to the dentist, I got a filling in my tooth." The TV show has nothing to do with my fillings, the fillings didn't act to give me reception for the TV show, but they are connected in that they both took place on the same day.

 

They take place in the context of the same world, but two separate things-giants, and wicked relationships. But the giants were neither the product of the wicked relationships, nor were they they sons of God mentioned. Otherwise, why not say, "When the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, their offspring were mighty giants, men of renown" 

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That phrase is not speaking of "at a later time". The punctuation alone should make you question that. Look up the definitions of the word "after". Then read the phrase in Genesis i "after his kind".

It means whenever the sons of God mate with the daughters of men unusual offspring will be born.

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Sons of God - whoever they were - had children with the daughters of men - whoever they were - and these children BECAME mighty MEN, MEN of renown.

There is nothing in there that suggests anything more than fighting men who became famous - and by the way there were giants in the land - but every example of giants we see are larger than average but still men.

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I have stayed away from this topic only because I have not found enough definitive scripture one way or the other to dogmatically state whether the "sons of God" were men or angels.

a lot of times in scriptures if it says it angles or not angels ALWAYS appear as men.

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The use of the semicolon indicates a shift in thought, but not completely out of context.

So do periods.

 

I was studying English (as a language) history and at the time of the translators of the AV there were not a whole lot of instruction of grammatical structure as there was 50 years later or today. Pretty much they wrote as they spake.

 

Just recently the last man to speak the AV styled language died in England.

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The time of the translators of the KJV is know historically as the pinnacle of the written English language, and the translators were masters of language to a man.
The average man may have little grasp of punctuation........

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There were Nazis in Europe in the early 1940's; and also after that, when the Americans ramped up their manufacturing on a monumental scale and built up their armed forces, they emerged from WW2 as the most prosperous and powerful nation on earth.

 

 

 The Nazis' invading of Europe and America's increase of manufacturing and military power all occurred in the early 1940's,  For this reason, and considering the punctuation, the word "after" here has to mean something like "in conformity with" "in accordance with" or "as a consequence of" the fact that the Nazis were conquering Europe.

 

af·ter /ˈæfthinsp.pngtər, ˈɑf-/  [af-ter, ahf-] 

preposition
1.
behind in place or position; following behind: men lining up one after the other.
2.
later in time than; in succession to; at the close of: Tell me after supper. Day after day he came to work late.
3.
subsequent to and in consequence of: After what has happened, I can never return.
4.
below in rank or excellence; nearest to: Milton is usually placed after Shakespeare among English poets.
5.
in imitation of or in imitation of the style of: to make something after a model; fashioned after Raphael.
6.
in pursuit or search of; with or in desire for: I'm after a better job. Run after him!
7.
concerning; about: to inquire after a person.
8.
with the name of; for: He was named after his uncle.
9.
in proportion to; in accordance with: He was a man after the hopes and expectations of his father.
10.
according to the nature of; in conformity with; in agreement or unison with: He was a man after my own heart. He swore after the manner of his faith.
11.
subsequent to and notwithstanding; in spite of: After all their troubles, they still manage to be optimistic.

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There were nuclear missile silos in the United States during the Cold War; and also after that, when the Soviet Union build up her nuclear armaments, the same became a super power.

 

Both nations built up their armaments during the time period called "the cold war", but one was a consequence of, in accordance with, or in conformity with the other.

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Job 38

1Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,

2Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?

3Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

 

These sons of God where there before man was created.

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Isaiah 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.

 

Questions..

1. Why would God be saying He was going to  "lay the foundations of the earth" , here, if that had already been taken care of at creation?

2. What is "the corner stone"?

3.What makes a "morning star" different from any other star in the Universe?

4. Do "stars" literally "sing"?

5. The "foundations", "corner stone", "laid the measures", "stretch the line" "windows" and "doors" are building construction terms; does Planet earth have literal "windows", "doors", and a "corner stone"?

6. Do you take every verse "literally" or instead take it as THE TRUTH? For instance......

7. ......Psalm 23 says "he maketh me to lie down in green pastures"; have you ever laid down in a literal pasture?(I have :) )

8. If it's not a literal pasture He makes you to lie down in, then it must be something else, right?

 

 For the moment, I'll just say that the Bible specifies exactly what a "son of God" is and never defines it otherwise,( Jhn 1:12,  Rom 8:14Rom 8:19, Phl 2:151Jo 3:1, 3:2) and........

 

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hebrews 1:5

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Job 38
1Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

These sons of God where there before man was created.

1Co 3:11
11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Pe 2:6
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious:and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Psa 118:22-24
22 The stone which the builders refused
is become the head stone of the corner.
23 This is the Lord 's doing;
it is marvellous in our eyes.
24 This is the day which the Lord hath made;
we will rejoice and be glad in it.

The Earth has no foundation or corners, it is round, remember?
This is a prophecy concerning Christ.
Psalm 118 is referring to it as well.

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That's what I think it is too.

 

There is only one point in "time" where "all the sons of God" will begin to shout for joy and that is when the "corner stone" is laid in "Zion". That would mean every son of God from Adam to the very last person who is born again in the future.

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I've had it explained this way to me: Adam and Eve were the first humans he made but he also populated the earth with other men (sons of God) and other women also.

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