Members Genevanpreacher Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 Jeremiah 10 2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 Ok - that is what I was thinking, wasn't for sure. Any direction where in Jeremiah it says not to adorn a cut tree - I guess I am specifically wondering about a Christmas tree. That passage in Jeremiah is referring to turning cut trees into idols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Genevanpreacher Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 That passage in Jeremiah is referring to turning cut trees into idols. I agree, it's just the verses that some use for their stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 I agree, it's just the verses that some use for their stand. True, but unless one is setting up a christmas tree in order to worship it as their god, the verses don't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Letsgo Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 What is Mitzvot? And who is BOB Larson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Nicolaitans Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 What is Mitzvot? And who is BOB Larson? Mitzvot...the 613 commandments found in the Torah. BOB Larson...I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Letsgo Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 Ok - get ready, some will think I am a troll, but I assure you I am not. My wife has bought into the HallelYAH Scriptures thing and we are butting heads over some issues. So, I am going to reach out here for some guidance and also challenge a few comments I read a couple of post back (this is where I will sound like a troll) It was said (paraphrasing all this, I wish I could use the quote button) that the owners, New Zealanders are shysters, and steal their volunteers time and the US guy is an old converted hippie, best I recall the references. 1) how are they shysters, any examples? 2) how does one "steal" a "volunteers" time? 3) is being an old converted R&R hippie a bad thing. I'd like to discredit these people, not hatefully, but if they are no good then I'd like to take something with some substance to the next go-round. As far as the "free" Bible - do get what you're saying, my wife wanted the leather bound edition and, yes, they wanted several hundred dollars. The free one was cheap made but I sent the $35 for it. Now in their defense, they did say they'd send a free one, and I can only assume they would have; and, I understand that there is a significant cost in producing a leather bound version. My KJV is leather bound and it was a couple hundred bucks, so I get it. She is not into the HRM, I asked her. She did say that some people have tried to pull her that way and she saw it was flawed; I am glad for that. She has however, determined the pork is bad. All of the Holidays are pagan and bad. She believes Paul was a Hebrew Apostle. She does say that saying "Jesus" is blasphemy, that it is Yahousa (misspelled, I'm sure). Her argument is "Sony" is "Sony" not matter what country you're in. Why was the name changed... So, where am I at in this and what might I expect next and any guidance talking to her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Nicolaitans Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'm no expert by any means, so I would like to recommend that you visit the link that I will post. The man who writes this blog is a saved Jewish man...who is also an Independent Baptist. I will give you the link to the first of his series; in which, he deals with Messianic Judaism. He also gets into the Sacred Name movement too. Perhaps you might find what you're looking for by perusing his series dealing with it. http://matthew714ministries.wordpress.com/2014/05/01/messianic-judaism-answered-1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Letsgo Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks, I will look into it. So, would you say she'd be considered a Messianic Jew? I've tried to get her to give me a title of where she is going but all she'll say is "I'm a follower of Yahousa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Genevanpreacher Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 My issue with using Yahweh or Yahveh or different ways of saying God's name or Jesus Christ's name in Hebrew or Aramaic or any other language... I speak English not Hebrew or any other language. I speak, what I understand. I'm just that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Nicolaitans Posted November 24, 2014 Members Share Posted November 24, 2014 Thanks, I will look into it. So, would you say she'd be considered a Messianic Jew? I've tried to get her to give me a title of where she is going but all she'll say is "I'm a follower of Yahousa" My first impression is that she would be a Messianic Jew, but that's just an impression. If she's insisting on calling Jesus Yeshua or Yahshua and beginning to try to adhere to the Mitzvot...sounds Messianic to me...or some type of offshoot of Messianic Judaism. I'm sorry to hear about this, and I'll be praying for her and you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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