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      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 - "falling Away" Or "departure"?


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I have long questioned the translation of apostasia to "falling away" in the King James version.

I have learned that the 5 English translations prior to the King James rendered the word "departure".

 

The King James reads: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,

except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

The word apostasia was directly brought from the Koine Greek into the English language

long before the King James version (changing the ia into y).  To me, the correct translation

would refer to the rapture of the Church and then the revealing of the Antichrist. 

I feel that the deception (supernatural) of the Antichrist will be overwhelming

and the Church must be removed first.

 

Here is a link concerning this topic: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/TheRapturein2Thessalonians2_3.html

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Are you more skilled in Languages than the men involved in the production of the KJV?

If you understand the process used you will know that the passage you refer to was considered by many experts in language before it was settled upon that particular translation of that word in that context.
Now I am not skilled enough to say they are right or wrong, but even so, one man's consideration of such a thing surely must bow to many men's agreement of expertise.
And that is without considering God's hand in it, which we must not dismiss.

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'Apostasia": 1) a falling away, defection, apostasy.

 

this is all Strong's give for the word.  I admit that I don't have any prior translations, so I can't speak to that. However, if it CAN mean a departure, why might it not refer to the same thing, a departure from the faith?

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This is called changing the Scripture to fit our theology.  While I believe in a pre-tribulation rapture of the church, I cannot justify changing any verse of the Bible to prove it.  We change our theology to fit the Scripture, not the Scripture to fit our theology.  It is not necessary to change this passage to prove a pre-trib rapture. 

The fact is that leading up to the Tribulation, there will be a world-wide apostasy, and we are seeing it come to pass before our very eyes.

 

In Christ,

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Doesn't fit with the other occurrence in Acts.

 

Acts 21:21

And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake (rapture) Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

 

Plus one would have to get into all the debates over which Greek was being used by Paul. That is a very bad road to be upon.

 

Romans 1:28

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

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I have long questioned the translation of apostasia to "falling away" in the King James version.

I have learned that the 5 English translations prior to the King James rendered the word "departure".

 

The King James reads: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,

except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

The word apostasia was directly brought from the Koine Greek into the English language

long before the King James version (changing the ia into y).  To me, the correct translation

would refer to the rapture of the Church and then the revealing of the Antichrist. 

I feel that the deception (supernatural) of the Antichrist will be overwhelming

and the Church must be removed first.

 

Here is a link concerning this topic: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/TheRapturein2Thessalonians2_3.html

If you believe the KJB is flawed, and flawed to a point of effecting this issue so greatly, why would you use the KJB? As well, if the KJB is flawed, which English Bible do you believe is the preserved Word of God in English?

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2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceaue you by any meanes, for the Lorde shall not come excepte there come a fallyng away first, & that that man of sinne be reuealed, the sonne of perdition, (Bishop)

It is obvious that not all English versions prior to the translating of the KJB did use "departing". 

As I said in another thread, word definitions change over time. 

 

That is why it is important to "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed; rightly dividing the Word of Truth."
 

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God promised us he would preserve his Word and he did so with the Authorized Version, the King James Bible.  God didn't make any mistakes; it's us, man, whether in typesetting or understanding we err.

 

In my feeble brain, and having never read Greek, "falling away" in this context could mean both to me, the rapture of the saints and what we're living today, a great apostasy, and that both must happen before the man of sin is revealed.  However, I've been taught the former and not the latter.  It doesn't seem to really matter now does it?

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I have long questioned the translation of apostasia to "falling away" in the King James version.

I have learned that the 5 English translations prior to the King James rendered the word "departure".

 

The King James reads: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,

except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

The word apostasia was directly brought from the Koine Greek into the English language

long before the King James version (changing the ia into y).  To me, the correct translation

would refer to the rapture of the Church and then the revealing of the Antichrist. 

I feel that the deception (supernatural) of the Antichrist will be overwhelming

and the Church must be removed first.

 

Here is a link concerning this topic: http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/TheRapturein2Thessalonians2_3.html

Balderdash. The KJV has it right.

 

Hebrews 6:6- If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

 

This is the only other time the phrase "fall away" is used in the NT.

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Doesn't fit with the other occurrence in Acts.

 

Acts 21:21

And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake (rapture) Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.

 

 

The word "rapture" is not used in any English translation. 

 

Jerome translated the Greek New Testament into Latin in the 4th century (the Vulgate).

He used the Latin word discessio, meaning departure, for the Greek word apostasia.

 

This meaning was continued in the earliest English translations such as the Wycliff Bible (1384), Tyndale Bible (1526),

Coverdale Bible (1535), Cranmer Bible (1539), Breeches Bible (1576),

Beza Bible (1583), and Geneva Bible (1608).  http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/a-defense-of-the-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23

 

The word harpazō, meaning "caught up" is translated as "rapturo" in the Latin Vulgate of Jerome.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,

to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17

 

Often in Scripture, different Greek words are used in different places to describe the same thing/event.

see 2 Cor 5:1 "house" and 5:2 "house" are different Greek words; 5:1 "tabernacle" and "building" are different words. 

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The unveiling of the Antichrist will be the most significant event that the entire world has ever experienced.

There has been a "falling away" since the time of the Apostle Paul.  Why would the Holy Spirit juxtapose

a "non event" of apostacy (which has been occurring for 2,000 years) with the revelation of the Antichrist?

 

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasia) first,

and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

or that is worshipped 

 

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel  Galatians 1:6

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The unveiling of the Antichrist will be the most significant event that the entire world has ever experienced.

There has been a "falling away" since the time of the Apostle Paul.  Why would the Holy Spirit juxtapose

a "non event" of apostacy (which has been occurring for 2,000 years) with the revelation of the Antichrist?

 

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasia) first,

and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God,

or that is worshipped 

 

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel  Galatians 1:6

Very simple.  Up until the last 50 years or so, even with certain elements of professing Christianity "falling away" into apostacy, there was always a remnant left that remained true to the word of God.  It is quite clear from our historical records that there were heated debates and persecutions that revealed the REAL CHristians from the false.  There was a stark contrast between the TRUE CHristians and false.

But today, the lines are very unclear.  Even in our professing "Bible Believing" ranks, people are apostacizing.  They are falling away into worldliness, sloppy methods, sloppy doctrine.  Those who were once bold in the Biblical faith are waning.  When the truly saved Christians have no regard for the word of God or holiness - well, that is a universal apostacy.  It is worldwide, if the accounts from my missionary friends are true.

 

Look, even the BEST of preachers today are worldly to some degree or another.

The BEST of our preachers today have compromised on some point.

We are in the last days, and there is nothing we can do to stop it, or keep ourselves out of it.  The best that we can do is not good enough to keep ourselves our or congregations from being tainted to some degree or another....

 

Just look at this forum!  We are debating the virtues of ALCOHOL and ROCK MUSIC!!!  Can't you see where we are in these last days!  When God's people are arguing about how far they can take their LIBERTIES, you know we are in an apostate age.  They seem to have forgotten this verse:

2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

 

Preachers in OUR CIRCLES (IFB) don't preach against sin, the world, the flesh, or false religions or false churches anymore (they don't want to "offend" any visitors!!!)  Our churches were KNOWN for denouncing false religion - loudly and openly.  But it takes a CHARISMATIC nut (Terry Jones) to have enough guts to burn the Koran.  Where are the Baptists???  Terry Jones had enough courage to challenge the Muslims OPENLY in Dearborn, MI.  Where are the Baptists???  Have we forgotten that it was US - Bible Believing Baptists - who led the charge to religious liberty in the Colonial Era?  But we have gotten so involved in our own little world, that we seem to have lost our voice!

The Baptists have gotten too swallowed up in having big buildings, lots of property, and Bible colleges.  They won't go out on the street to preach openly anymore.  They won't take a stand in their communities anymore.  They all want a nice, polished, suave image, but they will not bear the reproach of their SAVIOUR in an OPEN, PUBLIC manner. 

They will CLAIM to believe the KJV, but in secret they don't - they go back to the GREEK and HEBREW to change the verses they don't like or understand, or that doesn't fit their little pet doctrines. 

 

That is an accurate description of OUR crowd.  And when OUR crowd is THAT BAD, then the rest of Christianity is ready for the anti-Christ.  He will swallow up TBN, Benny Hinn, and the rest of those fakirs so fast, and they will WELCOME him. 

 

Yep.  one word.  APOSTATE. 

 

Indeed - the great "falling away" is here, and I don't mean "the rapture."

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The word "rapture" is not used in any English translation. 

 

Jerome translated the Greek New Testament into Latin in the 4th century (the Vulgate).

He used the Latin word discessio, meaning departure, for the Greek word apostasia.

 

This meaning was continued in the earliest English translations such as the Wycliff Bible (1384), Tyndale Bible (1526),

Coverdale Bible (1535), Cranmer Bible (1539), Breeches Bible (1576),

Beza Bible (1583), and Geneva Bible (1608).  http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/a-defense-of-the-rapture-in-2-thessalonians-23

 

The word harpazō, meaning "caught up" is translated as "rapturo" in the Latin Vulgate of Jerome.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds,

to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:17

 

Often in Scripture, different Greek words are used in different places to describe the same thing/event.

see 2 Cor 5:1 "house" and 5:2 "house" are different Greek words; 5:1 "tabernacle" and "building" are different words. 

 

The words English and Bible aren't found in any of the English Bibles either! Just because a word isn't found in the Bible doesn't mean that we can't use it to describe something that is found in the Bible. Mountain Christian was simply saying that if the Word was referring to this particular event than it would also be referring to it in Acts. And while I disagree with his logic (if it meant departure, that does fit in the verse in Acts) I also disagree with the gross assumption that the only way we can understand God's Word is to study Greek. Do we believe that the KJB is not only inerrant, but also perfect (complete)? If it is complete than we don't need Greek to explain it, we just need to learn English!!!!

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The fact that the King James translators not only translated the apocraphal books, but included them in the King James tells me all I want to know.

However, the King James is the only Bible I use, as I consider it the very best translation into English. It is what I started with 50 years ago

and continue to use.  I use it linked to the Strong's Concordance in order to look into very specific Koine Greek words.

The fact is that apostasia took on "new meaning" following its adoption and transliteration into English and prior to the KJV.

 

Unfortunately, the "whole world" does not revolve around the United States and the English language, but there are people in every corner of the world that have access to the word of God in their native language.

I can attest to this first-hand, as I recently returned from 6 years in the Philippines. I am not stuck in an ethnocentric "superior mindset" as are some.

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A saved person cannot be lost again. So if one of us "falls away",  could this be a symptom?
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
 
We have homosexuals getting their 'rights' and now it is pretty much accepted by this world. We have a pro abortionist, pro gay, pro gun control(pro gun confiscation actually) man in the Whitehouse. We have people slaughtering people all over the world....and it's getting more and more prevalent. They are all screaming "let us break their bands asunder and cast away their chords form us..." and that is happening at break-neck speed right before our eyes...how could we do anything else but 'wax cold' or draw closer to God?
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A saved person cannot be lost again. So if one of us "falls away",  could this be a symptom?
Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
 
We have homosexuals getting their 'rights' and now it is pretty much accepted by this world. We have a pro abortionist, pro gay, pro gun control(pro gun confiscation actually) man in the Whitehouse. We have people slaughtering people all over the world....and it's getting more and more prevalent. They are all screaming "let us break their bands asunder and cast away their chords form us..." and that is happening at break-neck speed right before our eyes...how could we do anything else but 'wax cold' or draw closer to God?

 

 

Falling away does not necessarily means that a person has lost their salvation, and in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 its not referring to losing ones salvation, besides that is impossible even thought some teaches it happens.

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Falling away does not necessarily means that a person has lost their salvation, and in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 its not referring to losing ones salvation, besides that is impossible even thought some teaches it happens.

"Falling away" has been occuring since the first century.  Heb 6:6, Luke 8:13, 2 Pet 3:17. 

In the "context" of the passage in 2 Thessalonians 2, the "apostasia" occurs just prior to the revealing of the Antichrist.

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