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Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests. Heterosexuals are the child molesters.
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False, but I would not think that the majority of people will understand it. It has been proven years ago that homosexuals prey on children. They love nothing better than a young person, teaching, training, them while they are young to do what they enjoy. After they win the young child's trust, the young child will completely trust the.

Homosexuals are perverts, & they will do anything to try to change, win, the public's view of them as very good trusting citizens that does not wrong. them they can quietly go about enjoying their sins. they have no morals.

Ge 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

They have no shame.

And the only way you can change the public's perception of homosexuals is to get them saved.

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Sandusky is a good recent example of someone who, if not necessarily gay, was doing gay molestation.

It used to be you only had to fear for your little girls. Now you have to fear for both little boys AND little girls.

Basically though, what I've found, is that in both gay and abortion discussions online, they will automatically throw out your opinions based on it being "religious right" and ignore anything you say as being crazy, even if your logic is completely sans-religion.

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Sandusky is a good recent example of someone who, if not necessarily gay, was doing gay molestation.

It used to be you only had to fear for your little girls. Now you have to fear for both little boys AND little girls.

Basically though, what I've found, is that in both gay and abortion discussions online, they will automatically throw out your opinions based on it being "religious right" and ignore anything you say as being crazy, even if your logic is completely sans-religion.

Yes, if the child molestor is male and he targets boys, he's not only a child molestor, he's also a homosexual. For some reason, many fail to see this, or more likely, they try to ignore it.

For the most part, the liberals and non-Christians will attack and ignore anything put forth by biblical Christians. There is really no point in engaging these sorts. The only time I even bother responding to that type is if there is an "audience" of others who may actually benefit from hearing the truth. In those cases my response are not actually directed at the liberals, but the potentially open to the truth others.
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There are statistics out there that show a very high percentage of pedophiles are homosexual. I've not had cause to use such since sometime in the 90s so I don't have any web links but would like to see them posted if someone has them.


There use to be a Christian show on satellite back in the 2000's, it gave these statistics many times. As mentioned by Suzy, Sandusky is a perfect example, & usually they ruin the life of more than one child before caught. And of course, some never get caught. Another one would be all the Catholic priest, that preyed off of young boy, & most to them did this to many young boys.
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Yes, if the child molestor is male and he targets boys, he's not only a child molestor, he's also a homosexual. For some reason, many fail to see this, or more likely, they try to ignore it.

For the most part, the liberals and non-Christians will attack and ignore anything put forth by biblical Christians. There is really no point in engaging these sorts. The only time I even bother responding to that type is if there is an "audience" of others who may actually benefit from hearing the truth. In those cases my response are not actually directed at the liberals, but the potentially open to the truth others.


How about catering to the homosexuals for votes, its clear, they also go after the illegal voters, example, in Florida the White House is trying every way possible to keep them from taking illegal voters off the voting list, while trying to do everything possible to stop any type of voter identification.

They have said, every vote should count, meaning illegal votes, if its for a democrat.
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How about catering to the homosexuals for votes, its clear, they also go after the illegal voters, example, in Florida the White House is trying every way possible to keep them from taking illegal voters off the voting list, while trying to do everything possible to stop any type of voter identification.

They have said, every vote should count, meaning illegal votes, if its for a democrat.

Statistics show that homosexuals, on average, are well off and they give large donations to liberal politicians and causes. This is why most think Obama finally came out and openly endorsed homosexual "marriage", because homosexual activists had threatened to withhold their huge campaign contributions. By openly supporting homosexual "marriage", Obama will receive several million dollars from homosexuals, their organizations and supporters.
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A lot of thoughts here but, how do we formulate them? This is a statement made by one of those homosexuals. How would we reply to this if we were on a street and became part of a discussion around homosexuals; then someone made the OP quote. How do we respond to this as Christians and as concerned citizens of the U.S.?

Can the things said thus far be put into a reply that other listeners in earshot can follow and maybe agree with. There are conservative leaning liberals out there that need a shove and there are people looking for truth who are lost out there. How do we reach them with the final motive to advance the Gospel of Christ. So what do we say?

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As you know,The hope for the homosexuals lies in getting saved, having Christ change them to what they are suppose to be. To debate or argue with him, most likely will not change a homosexuals mind. Plus now that many churches will freely accept homosexuals, & they know that, they will not be accepting of a God that will not accept them just as they are. Of course this hold true for all of the lost.

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The best approach is to stick to the Gospel, stick to Scripture. Secular arguments won't really get anyone anywhere and it certainly won't give them eternal life.

It really doesn't matter how many other sins a homosexual commits compared to anyone else. What matters is that the homosexual is condemned to hell unless they repent and are born again in Christ (the same thing all lost souls need).

The reason behind most laws in all nations has to do with religion more than anything else. Nations which had Christianity as their dominate religion had laws reflecting this just as Muslim dominate nations laws reflect Islam. One can look to Russia, which was heavily influenced by Orthodox Christians until the communists took over and worked to supress all aspects of Christianity, and altered laws to reflect their secular, athiestic "religion".

The battle for the basis of our laws, our standard of right and wrong, here in America today isn't a matter of conservative/libertarian/liberal/socialist, it's a spiritual battle. Traditional Christianity is no longer the dominate religion of America. Secular humanism is coming to dominate, even among many professing Christians who reject much of Scripture in favor of secular philosophy.

The only way to rightly confront the isses we face in America, including the issue of homosexuality, is with the Gospel of Christ. The only hope for America is God's people humbling ourselves before Him, repenting of our sins and truly giving ourselves to Him. How many professing Christians in America are willing to give up some or all of their pet entertainments, time wasters and sins in order to spend serious time in Bible reading, study and meditation; to spend serious time in prayer, to fast and cast our wills down in order to pursue Christlikeness? How many professing Christians in America are willing to become active in their church? How many professing Christians in America are willing to live as the salt and light of Christ in their area and to share the Gospel with the lost, to disciple those who are born again in Christ?

All of these are what God calls us to yet the vast majority of professing Christians will not do this. Most prefer to pursue their own desires, to trust in politics, or to wait for someone else to do something. We can look to Old Testament Israel to see how this works out.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

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Homosexual is being sexually attracted to the same gender.

Pedophilia is an adult being sexually attracted to and preying upon children.

The two things cannot be compared.

As a matter of fact, they can. A heterosexual pedophile is attracted to opposite sex children while a homosexual pedophile is attracted to same sex children.

All are sinners needing to repent and be born again in Christ.
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As a matter of fact, they can. A heterosexual pedophile is attracted to opposite sex children while a homosexual pedophile is attracted to same sex children.

All are sinners needing to repent and be born again in Christ.


I'm just saying, pedophilia and homosexuality are two entirely different things. Just because a person is one does not make him the other. To compare the two is not right, and is quite offensive.

One is legal, one is illegal. One is between two consenting adults, one is between one adult with power of a young person. Two entirely different things.

I do not see how the two can be compared.
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I'm just saying, pedophilia and homosexuality are two entirely different things. Just because a person is one does not make him the other. To compare the two is not right, and is quite offensive.

One is legal, one is illegal. One is between two consenting adults, one is between one adult with power of a young person. Two entirely different things.

I do not see how the two can be compared.

The comparison comes from statstics compiled which indicate a high percentage of pedophiles are homosexual. The highly publicized cases of the Catholic priests preying upon altar boys is a clear example of this.

Beyond that, as far as Scripture is concerned, both pedophilia and homosexuality are illegal, both are peversions, both are sin and in the case of homosexuality God views that sin as an abomonation. They are both sexually perverse sins.
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Homosexual is being sexually attracted to the same gender.

Pedophilia is an adult being sexually attracted to and preying upon children.

The two things cannot be compared.


One who dives into the sin of homosexuality, a sin that God calls an abomination, will be partakers of many of the vilest sins against God, for there is no respect for the living God

The comparison comes from statstics compiled which indicate a high percentage of pedophiles are homosexual. The highly publicized cases of the Catholic priests preying upon altar boys is a clear example of this.

Beyond that, as far as Scripture is concerned, both pedophilia and homosexuality are illegal, both are peversions, both are sin and in the case of homosexuality God views that sin as an abomonation. They are both sexually perverse sins.


The defense some comes up for those who partake of theses vile sins against God is very alarming.
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As you know,The hope for the homosexuals lies in getting saved, having Christ change them to what they are suppose to be. To debate or argue with him, most likely will not change a homosexuals mind. Plus now that many churches will freely accept homosexuals, & they know that, they will not be accepting of a God that will not accept them just as they are. Of course this hold true for all of the lost.


This still isn't the answer. The OP comment was...

Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests. Heterosexuals are the child molesters.


The question is how do you refute the quote for those who are listening within earshot. There are weak Christians out there who swallow these comments as if they were fact.

KOB is an example of folks accepting this line of non-Biblical reasoning. He has stated he is a Christian but promotes the sin of homosexuality. He justifies them, takes pleasure in them continuing in the sin; even aiding them in the continuation of the sin. By his own admission. How do we reach folks before they accept this error? How do we give the words the Holy Spirit will use to convince them they are opposing God. Is there also some form of apologetics were're not using? Should Christians just allow the statement that "heterosexuals are the child molesters" be absorbed by the crowd as a fact?

How do we bring out the obvious that, Jerry Sandusky was a homosexual before he was a pedophile? Jerry's predisposition for males, albeit males which he could easily dominate, preceded his pedophilia. That doesn't make him less homosexual it just makes him a cowardly homosexual preying on the weakest same sex he could.

edited to add Sandusky...might have been misinterpreted. Edited by 1Tim115
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This still isn't the answer. The OP comment was...



The question is how do you refute the quote for those who are listening within earshot. There are weak Christians out there who swallow these comments as if they were fact.

KOB is an example of folks accepting this line of non-Biblical reasoning. He has stated he is a Christian but promotes the sin of homosexuality. He justifies them, takes pleasure in them continuing in the sin; even aiding them in the continuation of the sin. By his own admission. How do we reach folks before they accept this error? How do we give the words the Holy Spirit will use to convince them they are opposing God. Is there also some form of apologetics were're not using? Should Christians just allow the statement that "heterosexuals are the child molesters" be absorbed by the crowd as a fact?

How do we bring out the obvious that, Jerry Sandusky was a homosexual before he was a pedophile? Jerry's predisposition for males, albeit males which he could easily dominate, preceded his pedophilia. That doesn't make him less homosexual it just makes him a cowardly homosexual preying on the weakest same sex he could.

edited to add Sandusky...might have been misinterpreted.

The Word of God is the answer. If folks won't pay heed to what the Word of God clearly says, especially if these people are professing Christians, then it doesn't matter what statistics they hear, what studies have to say.

It really doesn't matter who commits the most sex crimes against children, all sex crimes against children are sin, just as is homosexuality and commiting homosexual acts regardless of "consent", is an abominable sin.

Present them with the clear Word of God on these matters. If they don't care about that, it's time to move on.
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Yes, the Word is the answer, in reality that is what I said early on, they will never understand until they get saved, try to present the plan of salvation to them, just a conventional conversation will not work. And even if you had a conventional conversation, & talked them out of it, someone would come along & talk them back into it. The power is in the Word, Jesus changes people, not us.

You can talk their ears off, & get nowhere with them, until they have the changed heart, the Holy Spirit abiding within them,living in the new man.

To many people feel there's words outside of the Bible that will work with the lost, even lost homosexuals, as already has been mentioned, the power is in the word, not in the conversation, words, that Christians have with them.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

Ac 2:37 ¶ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

Its the Word that pricks the heart of the lost person.

Ac 5:33 When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.

Isa 49:2 And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;

Ps 45:3 Gird thy sword upon thy thigh, O most mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty.

And of course, this is talking about the Word, the power is always in the Word, Always has been, its as a sharp two edged sword, & if the Word does not work, there's nothing else to try, except praying that the Holy Spirit would help convict them.

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I'm just saying, pedophilia and homosexuality are two entirely different things. Just because a person is one does not make him the other. To compare the two is not right, and is quite offensive.

One is legal, one is illegal. One is between two consenting adults, one is between one adult with power of a young person. Two entirely different things.

I do not see how the two can be compared.


Splitting hairs...... Labels applied to sexual deviates doesn't change the wrath of God. Separating the variations into labeled groups, allows mankind to decide which ones are more acceptable to society than others. It's more OK for two consenting adults than if one person (any age) doesn't consent. Does God make a distinction between rapists depending on the age of the victum? Or, how much a thief steals, when condemming a thief?

Who is offended when petty thieves and "master" thieves are compared? IMHO, only the ones who are guilty of taking what doesn't belong to them. If I steal a pen from work, I probably would be offended if compared to those who rob convenience stores at gun point. Yet, the Bible doesn't put a qualification on the commandment -- Do Not Steal.

In my case, (I can't speak for anyone else) bringing secular law into the discussion, leaves me wondering. How does "legal" and "illegal" have a bearing here. As far as I know it isn't illegal to eat a free meal designated for the homeless if we can afford to buy our own food. In the eyes of God what's His opinion of those who legally steal from the poor? It's legal to kill a baby before he or she emerges from the womb, but it's illegal to kill that child after it takes a breath of air. Here in the US prostitution is legal in some places and illegal in others. Will our Lord use man-made laws when we stand before Him in judgement, or His? Does man's approval (law) make prostitution or murder of babies, or homosexuality right in the eyes of God?

In this increasingly "politically correct" world, it appears that it won't be long before any opposition to satan will be more than just "offensive" to sinners. Failure to move from tolerance to condone increasingly leads to "legal" consequences for "illegal" words and deeds of professing Christians. Edited by Oldtimer
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