Members John81 Posted February 8, 2012 Members Share Posted February 8, 2012 Too much like the founders? I don't think so... Mainly in that he believes the Constitution should be followed as given. I apologize for not clarifying that, I in no way meant that in every view he holds he's like the Founders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 When Specter's liberalism finally became too much even for those who had voted him into office for years, he switched from Repub to Dem as his only hope of staying in congress. Thankfully, it didn't work, but also thankfully, we have the records of those supposed conservatives who supported the liberal Specter all those years showing their real loyalty to the Repub Party and not to conservatism or any so-called values. We should have run up the red flag then. Republicans and Democrats (Democrublicans) are as interchangeable as light bulbs but, they're not quite so bright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted February 8, 2012 Administrators Share Posted February 8, 2012 I knew what you meant, John...I just had to yank your chain. Santorum took the wind out of Romney's sails yesterday, eh? :boxing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted February 8, 2012 Members Share Posted February 8, 2012 Those voters who claim to be Christian, conservative or "values voters", were unwilling to look at the 9 or so Repubs who were originally in the race and get solidly behind one of them. Now they are left with "choices" they don't like, not to mention weak choices, and it's greatly their own fault. Had these core Republicans got behind one candidate early on, whether Bachmann, Paul, Perry or another, and gave them full support from beginning to end, then one of them would likely either be the nominee by now or well on their way to being the nominee. As it is, once again they squandered their chance to do this. By withholding their support they allowed others to fund the wimpier candidates while allowing the others to go unfunded and unable to compete. Now the core Republicans are faced with a proven failure most in his own Party don't even care for, a flip-flopper who will say whatever he thinks necessary to get elected, another big government politicians, and one who is too much like the Founders to suit their modern, enlightened tastes. So, most will rule Ron Paul out without any signficant consideration or thought, which leaves them stuck between two Catholics and a Mormon, all three of which are big government and globalization supporters with no real love of the Constitution and no intention of keeping any oath they may take to the same. Is it any wonder voters in the different States are not united? Around theses parts the SBC churches calls members of the RCC brothers & sister in Christ. If a preacher or pastor stood in front of them behind their pulpit & said anything less, he would be run out of the church & called a heretic. So I feel that across this nation there's many members of the SBC Churches holds to the same belief, & thus if they're supporting a member of the RCC for president, they feel they're supporting one that Jesus would support. And I feel sure the Methodist & many of the others feels the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted February 8, 2012 Members Share Posted February 8, 2012 I knew what you meant, John...I just had to yank your chain. Santorum took the wind out of Romney's sails yesterday, eh? It's good to have my chain yanked, it keeps me clicking along! What a funny political process where votes cast, many non-binding, can actually change the momentum of a campaign. No doubt Romney has to be doing some reevaluating, and one would think Gingrich would be as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted February 9, 2012 Administrators Share Posted February 9, 2012 Well, there are still about 900 delegates up for grabs, so it's anyone's game at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted February 10, 2012 Members Share Posted February 10, 2012 Well, there are still about 900 delegates up for grabs, so it's anyone's game at this point. That's one of the things that's so annoying about this process. The media, and many others, want to declare this thing over when less than a handful of States have voted and only a tiny amount of delegates have even been awarded. They have been trying to do this since even before the primary season began! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted February 10, 2012 Administrators Share Posted February 10, 2012 There are some pundits now who are saying that they think it just may be a 3-way tie by the time things get to Tampa...and that a "dark horse" could appear. Two names I heard floated today were Chris Christie (I don't know if he'd jump in...I'm thinking he wants to be Romney's VEEP) and Mitch Daniels. Neither of whom I'd particularly care to have run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted February 11, 2012 Members Share Posted February 11, 2012 Unless some "dark horse" decides to try and fight it out at the convention because none of the candidates have a lock on the nomination, it's too late for anyone else to enter. The media, and the Dems, would love to see the Repubs drag this out as long as possible and as messy as possible and with as little enthusiasm as possible because that would make it just that much easier for Obama to win reelection. By all appearances so far, there is no mass support for any of the four GOP candidates and outside of Ron Paul, none of the candidates have an enthusiastic base. Voter turnout has been lower than expected so far. None of this bodes well for the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Unless some "dark horse" decides to try and fight it out at the convention because none of the candidates have a lock on the nomination, it's too late for anyone else to enter. The media, and the Dems, would love to see the Repubs drag this out as long as possible and as messy as possible and with as little enthusiasm as possible because that would make it just that much easier for Obama to win reelection. By all appearances so far, there is no mass support for any of the four GOP candidates and outside of Ron Paul, none of the candidates have an enthusiastic base. Voter turnout has been lower than expected so far. None of this bodes well for the GOP. Yes...not well at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members swathdiver Posted February 12, 2012 Members Share Posted February 12, 2012 Santorum is another big government neo-con, not an actual conservative. Amazing that in 1960 Christians were rightly warning of the dangers of voting for a Catholic yet here we are five decades later and most Christians are flocking to a Catholic (either Gingrich or Santorum) while all but a few of the rest rally to a Mormon. All the while, Christians failed to give their support to one of the Christian candidates. That's very telling about the state of Christianity in America today. Most churches in America today are dead in faith. This is the Laodicean church age, they are neither hot or cold for the Lord, just lukewarm and in need of nothing because of their riches. Thank the Lord that many of us here do not belong to such local churches! Swath, just so you know, RSantorum is not all that conservative. He backed Arlen Specter against Pat Toomey... I was trying to compare Santorum's conservatism to Romney and Gingrich. He's probably very much like Hannity and has taken some pretty unconstitutional positions in some of the early debates that I happened to watch. Lacking the power of the Holy Ghost no infidel is likely to govern in a way that is pleasing to God these days. John81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ProdigalSon Posted February 27, 2012 Members Share Posted February 27, 2012 It is not Obama that scares me but the idiots who vote for him. If Gingrich gets the nomination, I'm definitely voting for Obama. Obama has much more character, whereas Gingrich seems to me to be morally bankrupt. If Romney gets the nomination, I am up in the air on who to vote for. I like Obama's tax policy, health care policy, and international policy, but I dislike his policy on most social issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no name joe Posted February 27, 2012 Members Share Posted February 27, 2012 It is not Obama that scares me but the idiots who vote for him. Wow. What a constructive, substantive, well thought out statement. I wish all political discussion were of such high caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted February 27, 2012 Members Share Posted February 27, 2012 It is not Obama that scares me but the idiots who vote for him. I for one appreciate your brevity to the point and honest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted February 28, 2012 Members Share Posted February 28, 2012 Wow. What a constructive, substantive, well thought out statement. I wish all political discussion were of such high caliber. Actually, it's a very substantive statement. Obama is clearly on record as a liberal socialist with anti-Christian and anti-American views. Those who vote for him must either be in agreement with such or so easily deluded they should be worried about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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