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Origins of Pre-Trib Rapture Teaching


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The word letteth means hindering the revelations of the Anti-Christ-

What is hindering the Anti-Christ? The church, the Holy Spirit,


What was hindering the Papal antichrist was the Roman empire and the Emperor. The whole of the early chursh taught that the Roman Empire was the hinderance. because Paul had told them. They thought that Rome would fall, not a popular teaching amongst the Romans, then the Antichrist, then the end of all things.

All of the reformers and baptists considered the Antichrist to be the pope, as did the prereformers such as the Hussites and Wladensians. Rome said the Wladensians started with Peter Waldo, f1160, but the Waldensians themselves claimed their separation from Rome wnet back to Sylvester. Why Sylvester? Sylvester was bishop of Rome at the time when Constantine removed the empire from Rome. Why did onstantine remove the empire from Rome? because he understood that the anticgrist would be head of the church in Rome and he thought as, he considered, that he was head of the Church, it may be him, he scarpered.

If you take care to Google "The nOBle lesson" of the Waldenses, written about 1160, you will find their doctrines, you will also find several references to Sylvester. Why would they refer back 800 years to Sylvester if it was not impportant to them. Can you refer back to 800 years of teaching? They also had a document "Treatise on Antichrist" written abot 1200, which, no doubt, you can Google.

The PTR teaching is one of the most pernicious teachings that has come out of Rome. Darby got it from Irving, a charismatic, Irving got it from Lacunza, a Jesuit priest. Darby was prOBably a Jesuit, certainly he was a high churchman. From him Scofield got the teaching and he was a reprOBate, and from his teavhing it spread around the US.
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The PTR teaching is one of the most pernicious teachings that has come out of Rome. Darby got it from Irving, a charismatic, Irving got it from Lacunza, a Jesuit priest. Darby was prOBably a Jesuit, certainly he was a high churchman. From him Scofield got the teaching and he was a reprOBate, and from his teavhing it spread around the US.


Wow, I've heard it all now. The Jesuits stared a teaching that on the most part claims that the RCC is the whore of Revelation. And Darby, a Jesuit? That's a wing-dinger. Another Jesuit teaching that Palestine belongs to the Jews. Yeah, right! :smilie_loco:4
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Wow, I've heard it all now. The Jesuits stared a teaching that on the most part claims that the RCC is the whore of Revelation. And Darby, a Jesuit? That's a wing-dinger. Another Jesuit teaching that Palestine belongs to the Jews. Yeah, right! :smilie_loco:4


Believe me, there are all kinds of crazy ideas put forth out there that Jesuits are behind all sorts of things...even Chick Publications spreads some of this.
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Wow, I've heard it all now. The Jesuits stared a teaching that on the most part claims that the RCC is the whore of Revelation. And Darby, a Jesuit? That's a wing-dinger. Another Jesuit teaching that Palestine belongs to the Jews. Yeah, right! :smilie_loco:4


You have got it wrong. The non catholic teaching was that the whore is the RCC. and the pope is the antichrist. Darby changed that to say that the RCC is not the whore and the pope is not the antichrist, he will come later.

I am just reading The Origins of the Brethren by Harold H Rowden who quotes many old documents and gives a clear picture of how many of the early Brethren were influenced by Irving's views on prophecy. The author is a Brethren, and also many of them infatuated with Irving's teaching on the gifts. Darby and many of the early Brethren were Calvinists. Edited by Invicta
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Our church rules and trust deed say:

No persons holding strange Doctrines or advocating anything contrary to sound Evangelical teaching shall teach, preach, or take part in any meeting or be allowed to serve on any committee or in any other way.

We certainly had strange doctrine on Sunday evening.

The preacher said that the church would be taken away, so we weold ever be with the Lord, then said that in Acts 1 when jesus ascended he was only with the apostles who were Jews, so wwhen he returned to the mount of Olives it would only be to the Jews and Christians would not be there. Do these people not ask questions when they are taught such things. The apostles were not only the Church they were the foundations of the church. How could we be forever with the Lord if we are not there when he descends to the mount of Olives?

It is pure heresy.

I have sent a note to our secretary to take the matter up.

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