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By that logic it is wrong for a Christian to work for a secular company, work for the government, listen to the news and on and on. "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers","come ye out from among them and be ye separate" and all that. Problem is that is improper logic. Like I said I don't think public schools are the best option and it isn't something I would recommended, but that doesn't make it automatically a sin.

If your flat "either the bible clearly teaches separation or it doesn't" was accurate Paul would have never written this:

"1 Corinthians 5:9-10 wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world."

Biblical separation is a lifestyle difference not isolation from every error that is in the world.

There is a vast difference between an adult Christian working a job and a child attending an institution designed to teach secular humanism, to minimize or outright refute Christ/Christianity, that instructs in the ways of the world, that holds up false religions as good, that forces children to engage and interact with wicked students (and sometimes adults)...

There are some jobs Christians should not hold. A government job, for example, could mean a night janitor in a government building which has little contact with anyone and no involvement in whatever goes on there (whether good or bad). At the same time, a government job could involve one working on family matters where they are required to ignore anything Christian, to abide by ungodly rules, to view biblical Christians negatively...in such a case, that particular government job would not be for a Christian.

Let us not forget we are talking about rather defenseless children and public schools. How does Scripture say children are to be raised? What are we told not to allow our children to learn? Childhood is when the foundations are laid, are they to be laid upon the solid rock of Christ or upon the ungodly world system force-fed in public schools?
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Actually, you have some biblically sound views while he is putting forth opinions that are not biblically sound.

I've never heard of or even read of a legitimate case where parents can't homeschool their children. I've seen God do amazing things in the lives of dirt poor families who determined to obey Scripture and keep their children out of the ungodly public schools.


I never said that parents should not be able to homeschool their children. I think they should have that right. My response was to the OP that it is a sin to sin children to public schools. That is an absurd assertion to apply across the board. How is my opinion, not biblically sound? My opinion on this issue is:

1. Parent have primary responsiblity for the education of their children. They have the choice to send children to public, priavate or to homeschool. They need to do what is best for their children. This will vary widely depending on family circumstances.

2. There are examples in the BIble where godly men were raised in the "public schools" of the day. I quoted Daniel as an example who went to a secular governent school in Babylon. Moses is another example. He received the best education of the government in Egypt. God used these experiences to raise up great leaders. I quote this not as evidence to say we must send children to public schools, but merely that it is an option that is not sinful, as the OP asserts. Daniel attended the best government school, and complied with the system except when it explicitly went against his beliefs. Can we not do the same today?

3. I have known many pubilc, private and homeschooled students, as I have attended all three. In all three, there are strong, godly people, there are wordly people, and there are good and bad influences everywhere. I fail to see how one can be better or worse. What is important is that parents teach their children and raise them in the faith, and prepare them for the world. I will be hands on in my daughters' education no matter where we send them to school.

So there you go, there is my opinion. I'm not sure you believe is unbiblical about that
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I never said that parents should not be able to homeschool their children. I think they should have that right. My response was to the OP that it is a sin to sin children to public schools. That is an absurd assertion to apply across the board. How is my opinion, not biblically sound? My opinion on this issue is:

1. Parent have primary responsiblity for the education of their children. They have the choice to send children to public, priavate or to homeschool. They need to do what is best for their children. This will vary widely depending on family circumstances.

2. There are examples in the BIble where godly men were raised in the "public schools" of the day. I quoted Daniel as an example who went to a secular governent school in Babylon. Moses is another example. He received the best education of the government in Egypt. God used these experiences to raise up great leaders. I quote this not as evidence to say we must send children to public schools, but merely that it is an option that is not sinful, as the OP asserts. Daniel attended the best government school, and complied with the system except when it explicitly went against his beliefs. Can we not do the same today?3. I have known many pubilc, private and homeschooled students, as I have attended all three. In all three, there are strong, godly people, there are wordly people, and there are good and bad influences everywhere. I fail to see how one can be better or worse. What is important is that parents teach their children and raise them in the faith, and prepare them for the world. I will be hands on in my daughters' education no matter where we send them to school.

So there you go, there is my opinion. I'm not sure you believe is unbiblical about that


Daniel was a captive. He had no choice but to attend the state school. Moses was pretty much in the same boat. We have the freedom to choose.

As I mentioned before, there were many Florida teachers on the Facebook page posting vilke language in their protest of the Bill. I looked at some of their profiles just to see what type of people these were. They had radical political beleifs, supported avbortion and Sodomy; actually a bunch of God haters.
Psalm 2: 1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.


How precious are your children to you?
Psalm 127:3 Lo, children [are] an heritage of the LORD: [and] the fruit of the womb [is his] reward.

When you send your kids to public school there will be alot of good teachers who are conscientious about their jobs and have some moral values. But it's very likely that they will be people just like those who posted their angry diatribes on Facebook.. Would you send your kid to Sunday school class if the teacher beleived in socialism, evolution, gay rights, or abortion? Then why a public school?
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine...........

Your child begins his education, shortly after being weaned. The Devil knows that, and he knows just how to teach your child...by repetition.....
9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: They won't mention evolution once or twice; they7 will mention it MANY times. I remember them doing it when I was in school and I graduated 32 years ago. Edited by heartstrings
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I can't believe this discussion is still going on...So, I'll post again. ;)

I haven't seen any Scriptural evidence that choosing public education is a sin across the board. Yes, we should not "listen to" the counsel of the ungodly...but one can certainly be educated in a public school without disobeying that command. Principles are addressed in Scripture, but methods aren't. Each parent must evaluate the situation of his/her own family, and prayerfully choose, with discernment, how to apply the Scriptural principles in the best way he/she can. Academic education of the children isn't the only factor to consider, since family life is made up of so many other circumstances. My life is not the same as my neighbor's life. How I apply Scriptural principles will look different from how he/she applies them.

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Can I summarize many of the negative responses like this?

1: "I've seen Christian schools turn out bad kids too." "I've seen bad things happen at Christian schools too."

This is a bogus argument because it reasons based on the outcome. I am convinced that in order to please God I must make decisions based on the principles of God's word, not on the outcome. Should I illustrate how it would be a mistake to go through life making decisions based on whether or not the outcome was favorable? I hope I don't need to do that.

2: "You're not loving your neighbor/ caring about others if you forsake public schools"

Hmm. OK. How many other commandments can we reject using the logic of "it is more important to help the community"? Perhaps the one about not eating with professing Christians who do any of the activities mentioned in 1 Cor 5:11. After all, they need to be reached too.

I'm willing to hear a reason of how I might be misapplying this verse, but so far I'm not convinced. Please explain how sending my impressionable children to be taught evolution and humanism is not sending them to "hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge." If the kids believe that stuff, they will go to Hell. You are saying it is OK to send the kids to a place where teachers are eager to convince them contrary to everything that might save them? And all I have to do is tell the kids not to believe any of it and it's OK?


Loving your neighbors does not mean your to socialize with them as your bosom buddy if they're unbelievers.

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

You can show love in many different ways than socializing with the unbelievering, even if its you neighbor.

I know a very good Christian man, that makes sure his family is in church all the time, as a child his parents never took him to church, should we base the way we bring up our children on his outcome, NO. The rearing of our children should be Bible principles only.

Your post competely destroies Bible seperation taught to us within the pages of the Bible. Notice it very clear, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"

Yet you proclaim to hang out amongst them.

And the Bible does tell us what to teach our children, as well as when to teach them. We are suppoe to teach them about God, the Holy Scriptures, the Bible, "ALL THE TIME."

De 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
De 11:19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

How many of us obey these verses from Deuteronomy and 2 Corinthians? If you send your children among the infidels, the heathen, the unbelievers, the pagans of this world, you will fail at the instruction in the verses above.

And of course, in public school at a very young age the children will hear it said, "The Bible is not true, there is no God," and it will make a very big impression upon the young mind. And of course the child is going to have friends whose parents never attend church, and the child will want to do many of the things they do, even if it goes against Bible principles.
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Loving your neighbors does not mean your to socialize with them as your bosom buddy if they're unbelievers.

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2Co 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

You can show love in many different ways than socializing with the unbelievering, even if its you neighbor.

I know a very good Christian man, that makes sure his family is in church all the time, as a child his parents never took him to church, should we base the way we bring up our children on his outcome, NO. The rearing of our children should be Bible principles only.

Your post competely destroies Bible seperation taught to us within the pages of the Bible. Notice it very clear, "Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"

Yet you proclaim to hang out amongst them.

And the Bible does tell us what to teach our children, as well as when to teach them. We are suppoe to teach them about God, the Holy Scriptures, the Bible, "ALL THE TIME."

De 6:7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
De 11:19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

How many of us obey these verses from Deuteronomy and 2 Corinthians? If you send your children among the infidels, the heathen, the unbelievers, the pagans of this world, you will fail at the instruction in the verses above.

And of course, in public school at a very young age the children will hear it said, "The Bible is not true, there is no God," and it will make a very big impression upon the young mind. And of course the child is going to have friends whose parents never attend church, and the child will want to do many of the things they do, even if it goes against Bible principles.



I must have mispoke or mistyped because unless I'm misaken, we agree.
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I can't believe this discussion is still going on...So, I'll post again. ;)

I haven't seen any Scriptural evidence that choosing public education is a sin across the board. Yes, we should not "listen to" the counsel of the ungodly...but one can certainly be educated in a public school without disobeying that command. Principles are addressed in Scripture, but methods aren't. Each parent must evaluate the situation of his/her own family, and prayerfully choose, with discernment, how to apply the Scriptural principles in the best way he/she can. Academic education of the children isn't the only factor to consider, since family life is made up of so many other circumstances. My life is not the same as my neighbor's life. How I apply Scriptural principles will look different from how he/she applies them.



For you and the others that refuse to see it as sin, I just say this. Be consistent. I think if you will look, the case I've made that it is sin is stronger than the case that can be made for one of the key baptist distinctives. The first S in the acronym Baptist is "saved, baptized church membership." I believe in that distinctive, and I believe the Bible teaches it. But, I bet I'd have an easier time convincing a rational person that sending your kids to public school is a sin than convincing him that baptism is absolutely required before church "membership."
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For you and the others that refuse to see it as sin, I just say this. Be consistent. I think if you will look, the case I've made that it is sin is stronger than the case that can be made for one of the key baptist distinctives. The first S in the acronym Baptist is "saved, baptized church membership." I believe in that distinctive, and I believe the Bible teaches it. But, I bet I'd have an easier time convincing a rational person that sending your kids to public school is a sin than convincing him that baptism is absolutely required before church "membership."

Indeed, more than enough Scripture has been put forth yet it's like Dr. Rice used to say, if some choose to ignore the Word, they won't be able to hear the Holy Ghost telling them the same thing.

A Christian parent can't even abide by Proverbs 22:6 if they are sending their children to public school to be educated, indoctrinated and trained by the ungodly, anti-Christian, worldly public school. The public school is the virtual opposite of everything Christian.
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Really seems like you are trying to get out of the obvious interpretation. Is that possible?

I doubt it since I myself was homeschooled and would plan on homeschooling my kids if I had any. I have zero personal motives for disagreeing with your position as it would not affect me in the least one way or the other. I simply feel your position is not a biblical one and is also being inconsistently applied. I don't see any practical difference between attending a public school as a child or working a secular job as an adult as far as exposure to evil goes. I would think if one was evil in and of itself so would be the other. Edited by Seth-Doty
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For you and the others that refuse to see it as sin, I just say this. Be consistent. I think if you will look, the case I've made that it is sin is stronger than the case that can be made for one of the key baptist distinctives. The first S in the acronym Baptist is "saved, baptized church membership." I believe in that distinctive, and I believe the Bible teaches it. But, I bet I'd have an easier time convincing a rational person that sending your kids to public school is a sin than convincing him that baptism is absolutely required before church "membership."

I'm not sure what the Baptist distinctives have to do with this discussion...or how I'm being inconsistent to believe that the biblical pattern is that a person is saved, baptized, and added to the church in that order, when it is spelled out pretty clearly throughout the New Testament. But comparing a doctrinal issue to a sin issue is like comparing apples and oranges; you're the one being inconsistent by using this analogy. (I don't think it is a "sin" to allow church membership before baptism, and I don't think it is a "sin" to be baptized by pouring/sprinkling, either.)

I'm not "refusing to see it as sin," Captain. You have failed to provide any compelling scriptural evidence that I should see it as sin across the board, with no other factors considered.
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I believe it is a sin to send your kids to public school. I've been challenged by family members regarding how far I take this. Let me first give the basis for my belief and then I'll expand on the problem. I believe it violates this verse:

Pro 19:27 Cease, my son, to hear the instruction that causeth to err from the words of knowledge.

It violates it because of the many ways the public schools will cause your children to err if they believe what is taught. If God says we shouldn't hear it, how much worse must it be for us to send our impressionable kids to be taught it. The biggies are evolution and humanism. Most serious-minded Bible believers would agree so far. The question I need to fully work out is whether it is a sin for all, or only those who can afford to send their kids to Christian school or home school. I understand many who say they cannot afford it probably could if they would quit smoking, paying for cable TV, having expensive hobbies etc. But, can I really tell a single mom that she's living in sin if she sends her kids to public school and truly cannot afford otherwise? My initial position was no. I can only tell people that if they can afford to they are in sin. But I was challenged that if it is a sin for one, it is a sin for all. I had to back track because if were income tax evasion, lying, cheating, adultery or drunkenness it would indeed be true for all.

Can somebody help me out here with the correct response (please include chapter and verse).



(John 8:7) So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.


Is Public school sin? I wot not. Though personally in this day and age I would lean towards it being sinful. I personally believe if I had kids I would not send them to into that environment (Lord willing). I personally believe in homeschooling and not in Sunday school without parents. However, as I understand Public schools were not always bad. In fact were they not started in the US by the puritans for literacy and common knowlege, that the young could read the bible, understand the laws and commerce? I personally see not much problem with that type of public school. Though if I had children, I most likely wouldn't leave them with pretty much anyone besides my wife. At least without a profound trust in the other person(s) with which I would leave them. Yet schools in general have gone far from this path. I actually found humorous (last night in fact that, what Noah Webster said not to do Is what is happening in public schools. (Useless info not needed for the child's future vocation. later to the be forgotten and Teaching False unproven statements.) Nevertheless, if ye believe it is sin, then help the woman if she cannot afford to home school. As single I imagine she would need to provide for her children. How therefore can she home school?

(Matthew 6:25) Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Lest anyone would use this verse against the lady and possibly bring condemnation on themselves. How often we all do the opposite of this? Do we not? Could not the same be applied to you if ye do not help such a one in their need? (I hope with this post I bring not condemnation on myself as well as I am in no wise perfect)

(James 2:15) If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

(James 2:16) And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit?

If we use this analogy (If she truly cannot afford it.) It seems ye would be thus saying this; You are in sin (Which she may be. I'm not sure.) and harming your kids! (Which she may be) Change your ways!

Yet if ye give her not the means by which she can change, what doth it profit? For even if she wanted to, How can she if she cannot??

If ye believe its sin I would suggest helping her as you are able, that your abundance may become a supply for her need.


(2 Corinthians 8:1) Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia;

(2 Corinthians 8:2) How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality.

(2 Corinthians 8:3) For to [their] power, I bear record, yea, and beyond [their] power [they were] willing of themselves;

(2 Corinthians 8:4) Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and [take upon us] the fellowship of the ministering to the saints.

(2 Corinthians 8:5) And [this they did], not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.

(2 Corinthians 8:6) Insomuch that we desired Titus, that as he had begun, so he would also finish in you the same grace also.

(2 Corinthians 8:7) Therefore, as ye abound in every [thing, in] faith, and utterance, and knowledge, and [in] all diligence, and [in] your love to us, [see] that ye abound in this grace also.

(2 Corinthians 8:8) I speak not by commandment, but by occasion of the forwardness of others, and to prove the sincerity of your love.

(2 Corinthians 8:9) For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.

(2 Corinthians 8:10) And herein I give [my] advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before, not only to do, but also to be forward a year ago.

(2 Corinthians 8:11) Now therefore perform the doing [of it]; that as [there was] a readiness to will, so [there may be] a performance also out of that which ye have.

(2 Corinthians 8:12) For if there be first a willing mind, [it is] accepted according to that a man hath, [and] not according to that he hath not.

(2 Corinthians 8:13) For [i mean] not that other men be eased, and ye burdened:

(2 Corinthians 8:14) But by an equality, [that] now at this time your abundance [may be a supply] for their want, that their abundance also may be [a supply] for your want: that there may be equality:

(2 Corinthians 8:15) As it is written, He that [had gathered] much had nothing over; and he that [had gathered] little had no lack.


(1 Timothy 5:16) If any man or woman that believeth have widows, let them relieve them, and let not the church be charged; that it may relieve them that are widows indeed.


(Galatians 6:1) Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

(Galatians 6:2) Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

(Galatians 6:3) For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.

(Galatians 6:4) But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

(Galatians 6:5) For every man shall bear his own burden.





(Romans 14:1) Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, [but] not to doubtful disputations.

(Romans 14:2) For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

(Romans 14:3) Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

(Romans 14:4) Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

(Romans 14:5) One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day [alike]. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.




I hope this does not offend yet I was slightly saddened that this post was still alive. I am not perfect and fail in many of these same areas. Let us all take heed to the scriptures and walk in the spirit. Let us make sure we do not this; as I fear this conversation could be dangerously close (if not is what is meant in these verses.)

(Matthew 7:1) Judge not, that ye be not judged.

(Matthew 7:2) For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

(Matthew 7:3) And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

(Matthew 7:4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye?

(Matthew 7:5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


In ending, I believe that if If ye believe that she is in sin you should tell her (with scripture in meekness and fear.) And also be willing to help if she needs and or desires it that she may sin not.
Let us not judge rashly, especially as I imagine we know not all of the woman's circumstances.. Edited by Nathaniel
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No, its not dangerously close, we do have biblical instruction that covers everything that will come up in life and such things as this needs to be discussed.

And we have to make judgments, and one of them is about schooling our children.

One thing young Christian children do not need, is for lost people teaching and influencing them. And the young children of Christians that attends church do not need their children taught and influenced by infidels.

Christian children need to be taught by Christians and they need the influence of Christian teachers throughout their school years.

Sending children into public school today is simlar to sending them in among a pack of wolves.

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I'm not sure what the Baptist distinctives have to do with this discussion...or how I'm being inconsistent to believe that the biblical pattern is that a person is saved, baptized, and added to the church in that order, when it is spelled out pretty clearly throughout the New Testament. But comparing a doctrinal issue to a sin issue is like comparing apples and oranges; you're the one being inconsistent by using this analogy. (I don't think it is a "sin" to allow church membership before baptism, and I don't think it is a "sin" to be baptized by pouring/sprinkling, either.)

I'm not "refusing to see it as sin," Captain. You have failed to provide any compelling scriptural evidence that I should see it as sin across the board, with no other factors considered.


They do not have to both be apples. The comparison works because they are both Bible issues. My point is that one (the sin of sending kids to public schools) is easier to prove Biblically than the other. If you are a baptist, you would ostensibly be holding to a teaching that is weaker than the one in question. I may have failed to convince you, but then it's not my job.

If you could use something a bit more apples to apples, think of it like this. I'm guessing you wouldn't send your kids to a school where they were forced to smoke cigarettes. Cigs are physically harmful--most Bible believers would agree. Well, evolution and humanism are spiritually harmful. I would think that would be more important by far. Edited by Captain Claptrap
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No, its not dangerously close, we do have biblical instruction that covers everything that will come up in life and such things as this needs to be discussed.

And we have to make judgments, and one of them is about schooling our children.

One thing young Christian children do not need, is for lost people teaching and influencing them. And the young children of Christians that attends church do not need their children taught and influenced by infidels.

Christian children need to be taught by Christians and they need the influence of Christian teachers throughout their school years.

Sending children into public school today is simlar to sending them in among a pack of wolves.

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