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Sounds like you believe in some kind of annihilation theology. Is that true? If so, that is a theology of a calvanisitc background. The bible is very clear that there is a Second death which is

There is no reason not to take the flames literally. Do I want the unrepentant to burn in eternal hellfire? Yes. That is God's will and I must align my will with his. Is that something easy to do? No.

A Christian, by very definition of the word, is a Christ follower. Christ's will is that all that die in sin suffer in everlasting hell. That is why I am quick to share the gospel with the living unre

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What proof do you have that hellfire in these verses are literal and not figurative? None.

I am going to ask you a point blank question: Do you want unrepentant sinners to physically burn in eternal hellfire?


There is no reason not to take the flames literally. Do I want the unrepentant to burn in eternal hellfire? Yes. That is God's will and I must align my will with his. Is that something easy to do? No. Only through Christ living through me is that possible.

Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
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If the Bible really says that sinners will suffer eternal physical hellfire, and such language in the Bible is not simply figurative, is there any documentation outside of the Bible that eternal hellfire for sinners is what 1st and 2nd century Christians believed? What documentation do we have apart from the Bible that eternal hellfire is what Christians have always believed?

Is there any documentation outside of the King James Bible that eternal hellfire is what the King James Translators believed? How do we today know that the AKJ is an accurate translation and not simply the product of the personal (and possibly false) doctrines of its translators?

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Do I want the unrepentant to burn in eternal hellfire? Yes.


So you want the wicked to suffer eternal torment. This means you are not a Christian because you are willfully disobeying what Jesus Christ has told you to do:

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Subjecting someone to eternal torment is not an act of love.
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But not for all eternity.



Then why am I supposed to fear God, who can destroy it?


Your not interested in God's truth, your only interest is in spreading your lies and or your a troll trying to aggravate everyone. For your questions have already been answered more than once.
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So you want the wicked to suffer eternal torment. This means you are not a Christian because you are willfully disobeying what Jesus Christ has told you to do:

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.

Subjecting someone to eternal torment is not an act of love.


A Christian, by very definition of the word, is a Christ follower. Christ's will is that all that die in sin suffer in everlasting hell. That is why I am quick to share the gospel with the living unrepentant. You on the other hand are fighting against the will of God in this very thread.
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A Christian, by very definition of the word, is a Christ follower. Christ's will is that all that die in sin suffer in everlasting hell. That is why I am quick to share the gospel with the living unrepentant. You on the other hand are fighting against the will of God in this very thread.


If you were a legitimate Christian, wouldn’t you want all sinners to come to repentance? Instead you seem to relish their pain and suffering.
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If you were a legitimate Christian, wouldn’t you want all sinners to come to repentance? Instead you seem to relish their pain and suffering.


It is a good thing for me then that God decides who is a Christian and not you. By the way, I never said I relish in their pain and suffering. Never make that false claim again.
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A Christian, by very definition of the word, is a Christ follower. Christ's will is that all that die in sin suffer in everlasting hell. That is why I am quick to share the gospel with the living unrepentant. You on the other hand are fighting against the will of God in this very thread.



Your 100% wrong on that statement in bold letter.I hope you accident wrote that out wrong.

If you believe that, you know not Christ. Christ was the one who died on the cross paying for our sins, thus giving us the gift of salvation so that we do not have to pay for our own sins.

If Christ wanted it as you stated, he would never died on the cross for our sins, he would simply allowed us to die in our sins.

Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

No, Christ proved His love for us, proved that He did not want to see anyone suffer in hell, He gave His life so that we could have abundant life.

Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

No where within the pages of the Bible can you prove what you said, only the opposite can be proved. No great love is there than a man laying His life donw for His friends, and that's exactly what Jesus did.




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Your 100% wrong on that statement in bold letter.I hope you accident wrote that out wrong.

If you believe that, you know not Christ. Christ was the one who died on the cross paying for our sins, thus giving us the gift of salvation so that we do not have to pay for our own sins.

If Christ wanted it as you stated, he would never died on the cross for our sins, he would simply allowed us to die in our sins.

Joh 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Joh 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

No, Christ proved His love for us, proved that He did not want to see anyone suffer in hell, He gave His life so that we could have abundant life.

Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

No where within the pages of the Bible can you prove what you said, only the opposite can be proved. No great love is there than a man laying His life donw for His friends, and that's exactly what Jesus did.


I rest my case. Mdog takes personal pleasure in the suffering of others. No Christian does this. The purpose of the doctrine of eternal torment for sinners serves Satan’s purpose by putting a veneer of righteousness on false Christians’ desire to seek revenge on their enemies.
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Your 100% wrong on that statement in bold letter.I hope you accident wrote that out wrong.



I mean it. It was no mistake. God loves the world and I believe world means everyone, not just the elect. This is what the Bible teaches. I believe God wishes that none would perish. This is what the Bible teaches. The Bible also teaches that God will cast the unrepentant into hell fire.For they have not been washed white by the blood of Jesus. It would be against his just and holy nature if he allowed sinners into Heaven. So at the same time it is his final will. I firmly believe this to be the Biblical truth. Another way to think about it, and I admit if falls short, is that of a human judge. A judge that sentences a serial killer to death. The judge may be sad about the situation but it is his will to send him to his death.

Revelation 20:15

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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I rest my case. Mdog takes personal pleasure in the suffering of others. No Christian does this. The purpose of the doctrine of eternal torment for sinners serves Satan’s purpose by putting a veneer of righteousness on false Christians’ desire to seek revenge on their enemies.


Since you resort to calling me "Mdog", implying that I'm not a Christian and deny the truth presented I will ignore future posts you have in this thread and possibly others. I am not going to waste me time with one who has hardened his heart to the truth.
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I mean it. It was no mistake. God loves the world and I believe world means everyone, not just the elect. This is what the Bible teaches. I believe God wishes that none would perish. This is what the Bible teaches. The Bible also teaches that God will cast the unrepentant into hell fire.For they have not been washed white by the blood of Jesus. It would be against his just and holy nature if he allowed sinners into Heaven. So at the same time it is his final will. I firmly believe this to be the Biblical truth. Another way to think about it, and I admit if falls short, is that of a human judge. A judge that sentences a serial killer to death. The judge may be sad about the situation but it is his will to send him to his death.

Revelation 20:15

And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


In post #33 you point blank said, “Christ's will is that all that die in sin suffer in everlasting hell.”

Christ’s will is that He be “longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance”, II Peter 3:9.

This won’t happen as some shall perish because God is not going to force anyone to serve Him. So it is inevitable that some shall perish because they won’t repent. But this inevitable punishment is not something the Lord does lightly or with a gladsome heart- as you would have us believe.
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Since you resort to calling me "Mdog",


I was merely trying to save my arthritic arms a little bit of typing. You really should get over that high and mighty opinion you have of yourself. It isn’t fitting for someone trying to claim they are a Christian.

implying that I'm not a Christian


I'm not implying anything. I'm saying it straight out in hopes that you will be prevented from leading others astray.

I will ignore future posts


I wish you had thought of this sooner.
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I cannot find the website where I learned of the possible mistranslation. I don’t remember exactly what search terms I had put into Google. But here are some other websites that document how the Greek word aion may have been mistranslated in the AKJ:

http://www.sabbathfellowship.org/biblestudies/erwingane/biblestudy_gane_immortaltxt.htm

“In speaking of the punishment of the wicked, both Jesus and Paul used the adjective ‘eternal’ or ‘everlasting.’ The Greek adjective used in the New Testament is aionios. This adjective and its corresponding noun aion (eternity), do not necessarily mean never ending. Often they refer to a period of limited duration. For example, this present ‘world’ or ‘age’ that is coming to an end is a number of times spoken of as this aion (Matt. 13:39; Eph. 1:21; 2 Tim. 4:10; 1 Cor. 2:7).”

http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/RA/k/480/Eternal-Torment.htm

“If we understand ‘they will be tormented’ to include the Beast and the False Prophet, we must explain the phrase ‘forever and ever’ (eis tous aionas ton aionon). Literally, this means ‘to the ages of the ages,’ and would seem to imply perpetuity. However, we must be careful with the word aion. Its range of meaning runs from ‘a space or period of time’ to ‘a lifetime’ to ‘an age’ to ‘eternity.’ As in all such cases, the context must give the sense.”


http://www.helltruth.com/q-a/no-eternal-fire-but-yes-eternal-life.aspx

“The words translated ‘everlasting’ and ‘forever’ do not necessarily mean never ending. These terms, when found in the New Testament, come from the Greek noun aion, or from the adjective aionios derived from this noun. When we examine various Scripture texts containing aion, we discover at once how impossible it would be to attempt to make this Greek root always mean an endless period. We read in Matthew 13:39 and elsewhere of ‘the end of the world [aion].’ How could there be an ‘end’ to something if it where endless?”

Whether or not you translate aionios as everlasting/eternal when speaking of hellfire depends on what your theology is. If your theology is wrong, your translation will be wrong because you want your Bible to reflect your theology.

But a theology that calls for everlasting hellfire for an immortal soul defies the rest of the Bible:


I Timothy 6:13-16 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession; That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

The Bible says that only God is immortal.


Let's slow down a little, one thing at a time...
I went to Strongs and I'm willing to except the translators of the KJV and Strong as experts.
You must agree their credentials attest to their expertise and in any court of law in the U.S. the judge would call them experts.
G166
αἰώνιος
aiōnios pronounced (ahee-o'-nee-os)
From G165 ; perpetual (also used of past {time} or past and future as well): - {eternal} for {ever} {everlasting} world (began).
G165
αἰών
aiōn pronounced (ahee-ohn')
From the same as G104 ; properly an age ; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world ; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): - {age} {course} {eternal} (for) ever ({-more}) {[n-]ever} (beginning of {the} while the) world ({began} without end). Compare G5550 .
G104
ἀεί
aei pronounced (ah-eye')
From an obsolete primary noun (apparently meaning continued duration ); ever ; by qualification regularly ; by implication earnestly: - {always} ever.

It could very well be an age. Therefore we have to determine what that age is. This age when persons will either enter into heaven or suffer eternal separation from God is the reign of Christ. We know that Christ's final reign is for ever and their is no end of it. We cannot know the end because it is infinite and no one can know infinity. Our minds don’t have the ability to understand a place without time. So, I'm willing to give you the benefit of doubt and say it may be an "age" but, this age is eternal as verified by Isaiah 9:7.

Isaiah 9:7 "Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."

Two things in particular we can see from Isa. 9:7 "his government and peace there shall be no end" and "upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever." We see here that "no end" and "for ever" reference the same thing, the government/kingdom of Jesus Christ.
ever
H5769
עלם עולם
‛ôlâm ‛ôlâm
{o-lawm'} o-lawm'
From H5956 ; properly {concealed} that {is} the vanishing point; generally time out of mind (past or {future}) that {is} (practically) eternity ; frequentative adverbially (especially with prepositional prefix) always : - always ({-s}) ancient ({time}) any {more} {continuance} {eternal} ({for} [n-]) ever ({-lasting} {-more} of {old}) {lasting} long ({time}) (of) old ({time}) {perpetual} at any {time} (beginning of the) world (+ without end).
no endH7093
קץ
qêts
kates
Contracted from H7112 ; an extremity ; adverbially (with prepositional prefix) after: - + {after} (utmost) {border} {end} [in-] {finite} X process.
H7112
קצץ
qâtsats
kaw-tsats'
A primitive root; to chop off (literally or figuratively): - cut ({asunder} in {pieces} in {sunder} {off}) X utmost.

Let's be clear and reasonable; eternal, eternity, no end, everlasting, and for ever, are way above our pay grade for comprehension. We could bandy eternity for a good long time. We know from the author’s expertise and testimony they are not leading us astray. We know Christ's reign will be forever, no end to it, and infinite. These are facts we have derived from very close examination. When will you stop allowing these attempts at distraction to keep you from receiving Christ as Lord and His word as truth? You most likely have an awareness that something is struggling to prevent you from accepting God's grace. Something never struggles against nothing. Something wants to delay you until your time is up, that is, your dead or Jesus Christ returns; when all opportunity for salvation is finished.

Unless you’re Jewish then you and I are gentiles and if we trust Christ we won’t have to concern ourselves with this everlasting age of torment.

Romans 15:12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

Here is where your standing is with regard to the reign of Christ…

Luke 19:14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

You’re hoping, as many have in the past, there is some other way or hope outside of Jesus Christ, there is not another way.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

P.S.
The underlying anger in your words is evident. Don’t allow it to continue and reject God’s call to you.



Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind,

The fact that you call into question God’s love demonstrates you don’t have it. God is after all God and who are we to question Him. Again, God presents you with an opportunity to receive His grace, His way. God does love you and Jesus Christ, very God, died to provide you life. This is God’s will for you but, it must be His way. Adversity to God is sin.

God is love.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Sin and it’s result.
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

God’s plan to redeem us.
Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Note: Jesus Christ died for us! Jesus' death paid the price for our sins. Jesus' resurrection proves that God accepted Jesus' death as the payment for our sins.

Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Note: Because of Jesus' death on our behalf, all we have to do is believe in Him, trusting His death as the payment for our sins - and we will be saved! Because of our Lord Jesus Christ’s resurrection from death, witnessed by so many, we have that assurance he will keep his promise of eternal life for us.

Result of accepting God’s plan.
Romans 8:1There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Note: Because of Jesus' death on our behalf, we will never be condemned for our sins. Because Christ was raised from the dead, we have this precious promise of God.

Romans 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. Edited by 1Tim115
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Since you think you have the answer already anyway why ask such questions? I think you pegged your own intentions, position, and sincerity in about two or three posts. We aren't here to argue with militant anti-christians trying to pretend like they have real questions. It is a waste of time since they have no desire for understanding or heart for the truth.


"Job 4:17 Shall mortal man be more just than God? shall a man be more pure than his maker?"
"Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye."



I always think of this Psalm when I meet would be attackers of Christianity and the Truth. It is so futile to beat your head against the Rock.

Psalms 2:1-12
"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."


If you come to God with a different heart attitude you might learn something, but as things stand your just going to go on convincing yourself your right when in reality your dead wrong and futilely fighting God in many areas.

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I went to Strongs and I'm willing to except the translators of the KJV and Strong as experts.
You must agree their credentials attest to their expertise and in any court of law in the U.S. the judge would call them experts.


So you are willing to accept men as experts in matters pertaining to God? Remember I Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Since Strong's only reports how words are used in the AKJ, if the AKJ mis-uses words then Strong's simply reiterates the AKJ's error.
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So you are willing to accept men as experts in matters pertaining to God? Remember I Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Since Strong's only reports how words are used in the AKJ, if the AKJ mis-uses words then Strong's simply reiterates the AKJ's error.


I'm willing to submit these men, the authors, to the same scrutiny as experts for the references you didn't provide. Your original source for your supposition has not been presented for the same scrutiny as experts because you’ve stated you lost it.

Have you read the testimony of the men you site for your evidence? I have examined the lives of the authors of the KJV and Strong’s, their dedication and motivations are impeccable in the court of the world. Before God, the authors I site humbled themselves as mere sinners saved by God’s grace and surrendered themselves to God’s glory. Whose glory are your references surrendered to? You may want to do some research to determine who the more trustworthy source is; I advise against wikipedia for this research.

The scripture you’ve mentioned is great! Keep reading scripture! However, you can’t have things both ways. The scriptures are cautionary to those who trust Jesus is the Christ, God’s only begotten son. These sources of reference have stood the test of time.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

I would like to mention a few things in passing about I Corinthians 3:19. The entire chapter is devoted to “what” men build upon the foundation established by Christ. If men build to glorify men and not God then we must be cautious of them. The authors of both the KJV and Strong’s Concordance were building to allow men to better understand God’s word.

John 7:18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

So, I say again, something never struggles against nothing. Something wants to delay you until your time is up, that is, your dead or Jesus Christ returns; then all opportunity for your salvation is ended. The more you struggle, the more you begin to see, there is something you can’t see which opposes you. Presently, you’re on the wrong side and in opposition to God. There is still no other way to God; you must go through God. Edited by 1Tim115
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I'm willing to submit these men, the authors, to the same scrutiny as experts for the references you didn't provide. Your original source for your supposition has not been presented for the same scrutiny as experts because you’ve stated you lost it.


I didn't say one word about whether or not these other sources are accurate. I was merely illustrating that some sources disagree with the conclusions made by the AKJ translators. But then you would be disingenuous if you present the AKJ without acknowledging any possible errors it may have. You cannot expect someone to take your conclusions about the AKJ at face value because your conclusions are premised on your preconceived idea that these translators were perfect in their work. You have no proof that the AKJ translators were inspired by God, so you cannot use the AKJ to verify the qualifications of the AKJ translators.

I have examined the lives of the authors of the KJV and Strong’s, their dedication and motivations are impeccable in the court of the world.


According to Payne (The Learned Men) one of the AKJ translators was a drunk- drinking his fill daily. Another complained about the workload and wanted to be paid for his efforts so he wasn't doing the translation work out of the goodness of his heart. All of the translators that worked on the final edit at Stationers’ Hall were paid a salary by the AKJ's printer Robert Baker so they personally profited by their work that was supposedly done on God's behalf.
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Note what God told Adam and Eve in Genesis 2:17:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Since Adam and Eve did not physically die on the day they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the immediate death that God warned them about had to be spiritual death, i.e. their souls died the day that Adam and Eve sinned.

So when did simple death for the soul as punishment for sin become eternal torment for the soul as punishment for sin, and what right did God have to change the rules in the middle of the game? If physical torment for all eternity is the penalty for sin, why didn’t God tell Adam and Eve that their souls would suffer eternal torment if they disobeyed Him?

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Psalm 118:1
O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever

2Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

3Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

4Let them now that fear the LORD say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

5I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.

6The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
7The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

8It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

9It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.


Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. 43And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:


I've learned even more, the past few years, that men cannot be trusted.
Believe God's Word.

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Psalm 118:1
O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: because his mercy endureth for ever

2Let Israel now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

3Let the house of Aaron now say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

4Let them now that fear the LORD say, that his mercy endureth for ever.

5I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place.

6The LORD is on my side; I will not fear: what can man do unto me?
7The LORD taketh my part with them that help me: therefore shall I see my desire upon them that hate me.

8It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

9It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.


Mark 9:42 And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. 43And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:


I've learned even more, the past few years, that men cannot be trusted.
Believe God's Word.


Since we do not have all, if any, of the Bible’s original documents and if you cannot read the Bible’s original languages, you have to trust men to a certain extent because the only Bible you can possiblly have is a translation of a copy of the original documents.
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      Now it is time for me to step out of my shell and let go... I AM STRICT KJV!... In scripture God said he would preserve his word... Well did he or didn't he?... If there is every translation under the sun, then he didn't but I KNOW HE DID!... The preserved word of God called the KJV is for the English people has been around for over 400 years and what is interesting to me, is the KJV was translated in 1611 and the Pilgrims landed on Plymouth Rock in 1620... Coincidence?... A new book the preserved KJV word of God for the New World... So take that you KJV naysayers... I have been reading, studying and digging through the KJV for over 50 years... My belief is 100% Christ and scripture says so... Glad to be here and its time to take these shackles off!   
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      Praise God I found such a powerhouse of the outpouring of His Spirit and unapologetic in regards of the defense of the KJV Bible. When I became a Christian back in 1984, I was told to get & read the KJV. It's been my choice all these years.
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      John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
      I am... Brother Ramsey
       
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      Praise God I found such a powerhouse of the outpouring of His Spirit and unapologetic in regards of the defense of the KJV Bible. When I became a Christian back in 1984, I was told to get & read the KJV. It's been my choice all these years.
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      Mike,
      RE: This is why I am here, why are you?
      Also, the land in Egypt wasn't land God gave them it was land Joseph through Pharaoh gave them. God gave them Canaan.
      Dave 
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      Praise the Lord! Sherry and I, safe, tired, and joyful,  are back in Taiwan.
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