Members Bro K Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 (edited) It's been said "Preaching IS NOT a gift God gives to some; but Preaching IS a commandment God gives to all his children". Therefore if one is a "Preacher" does that automatically make him qualified to be a "Pastor"?? What Think Ye ??? Edited August 2, 2010 by Bro K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chev1958 Posted August 2, 2010 Members Share Posted August 2, 2010 No. Look at modern-day evangelists - some are great preachers, but God has not given them flocks to shepherd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bro K Posted August 20, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 20, 2010 Down thru the years I've noticed that knowledge has increased, while understanding has decreased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asysin2leads Posted August 24, 2010 Members Share Posted August 24, 2010 No. Look at modern-day evangelists - some are great preachers, but God has not given them flocks to shepherd. I have to agree with this statement. I have also seen great pastors who are terrible preachers and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted August 24, 2010 Members Share Posted August 24, 2010 Down thru the years I've noticed that knowledge has increased, while understanding has decreased. Seems like the smarter people get, the less they depend on God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OFIB Preacher Posted August 24, 2010 Members Share Posted August 24, 2010 I have to agree with this statement. I have also seen great pastors who are terrible preachers and vice versa. I agree with you, there! However, if you're talking about qualifications, they're the same whether someone be a Pastor, Evangelist, Missionary or whatever Preacher they be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OFIB Preacher Posted August 24, 2010 Members Share Posted August 24, 2010 Seems like the smarter people get, the less they depend on God. How true! Knowledge is their god! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brother Rick Posted August 24, 2010 Members Share Posted August 24, 2010 It's been said "Preaching IS NOT a gift God gives to some; but Preaching IS a commandment God gives to all his children". Therefore if one is a "Preacher" does that automatically make him qualified to be a "Pastor"?? What Think Ye ??? There are lots of good men who preach because God gives them the opportunity to, whether they are "called" to preach full time or not. There's no way that being able to preach automatically qualifies someone for the pastorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OFIB Preacher Posted August 24, 2010 Members Share Posted August 24, 2010 There are lots of good men who preach because God gives them the opportunity to, whether they are "called" to preach full time or not. There's no way that being able to preach automatically qualifies someone for the pastorate. A call to preach, is a full-time call! If someone who's qualified to preach can just lay it down and pick it up, chances are, they weren't even called, in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chev1958 Posted August 25, 2010 Members Share Posted August 25, 2010 However, if you're talking about qualifications, they're the same whether someone be a Pastor, Evangelist, Missionary or whatever Preacher they be! I gotta disagree with you on this one. The only two God-ordained offices in the local church are pastors and deacons. The qualifications outlined in Scripture address those two offices. A convicted murderer who got saved in prison would be disqualified from pastoring or being a deacon in a church, but that doesn't prevent him from preaching or becoming a "missionary" to prisons. In fact, I would say he might be the best man to head up a church's prison ministry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members asysin2leads Posted August 26, 2010 Members Share Posted August 26, 2010 I gotta disagree with you on this one. The only two God-ordained offices in the local church are pastors and deacons. The qualifications outlined in Scripture address those two offices. A convicted murderer who got saved in prison would be disqualified from pastoring or being a deacon in a church, but that doesn't prevent him from preaching or becoming a "missionary" to prisons. In fact, I would say he might be the best man to head up a church's prison ministry. I agree whole-heartedly. I have known many an evangelist who would not qualify for a pastor or deacon. However, some will argue that a divorced man would not be qualified as a missionary because he acts as the pastor of the church on the foreign field. I have heard arguments for both sides of this debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DennisD Posted August 26, 2010 Members Share Posted August 26, 2010 I agree whole-heartedly. I have known many an evangelist who would not qualify for a pastor or deacon. However, some will argue that a divorced man would not be qualified as a missionary because he acts as the pastor of the church on the foreign field. I have heard arguments for both sides of this debate. To me it seems they are one in the same (missionary/pastor) but maybe I am wrong. If you are a missionary that is going to start a church in a foreign country, you are the Pastor of that Church and should have to abide by the qualifications set by God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members trc123 Posted August 26, 2010 Members Share Posted August 26, 2010 (edited) To me it seems they are one in the same (missionary/pastor) but maybe I am wrong. If you are a missionary that is going to start a church in a foreign country, you are the Pastor of that Church and should have to abide by the qualifications set by God. While I tend to agree with you and would personally apply that definition; I do know there is no "mission" or "missionary" in the KJV Bible and thus I'm assuming the word (and various meanings given down through the ages) is subject to a few different meanings and applications as to what is a "missionary." I know that in some places a female Christian school teacher going to serve in a 3rd world country as a teacher might be called a missionary; the word is also used by the Mormons for their young men going door to door giving out tracts; and yet in my understanding of a traditional IFB missionary it would be a called preacher going forth to win souls and help start a church. In the latter scenario, sometimes the missionary stays and becomes the pastor and sometimes he moves on to another city or area in that country to help start another church. Edited August 26, 2010 by trc123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DennisD Posted August 26, 2010 Members Share Posted August 26, 2010 While I tend to agree with you and would personally apply that definition; I do know there is no "mission" or "missionary" in the KJV Bible and thus I'm assuming the word (and various meanings given down through the ages) is subject to a few different meanings and applications as to what a "missionary" is. I know that in some places a female Christian school teacher going to serve in a 3rd world country as a teacher might be called a missionary; the word is also used by the Mormons for their young men going door to door giving out tracts; and yet in my understanding of a traditional IFB missionaries it would be a called preacher going forth to win souls and help start a church. In the latter scenario sometimes the missionary stays and becomes the pastor and in sometimes he moves on to another city or area in that country to help start another church. I had forgotten about some teachers or nurses and the like being called missionaries since they are on a foreign field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OFIB Preacher Posted August 26, 2010 Members Share Posted August 26, 2010 To me it seems they are one in the same (missionary/pastor) but maybe I am wrong. If you are a missionary that is going to start a church in a foreign country, you are the Pastor of that Church and should have to abide by the qualifications set by God. Bro Denis, You're right! They're one in the same! There's no difference! That being said, the qualifications still hold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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