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      Closed Communion
      James Foley
       
      I Corinthians 11:17-34: "Now in this that I declare unto you I praise you not, that ye come together not for the better, but for the worse. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not. For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do show the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another. And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come."

      INTRODUCTION

      Historic Baptists, true Baptists, have believed in and still believe in closed communion. Baptists impose upon themselves the same restrictions that they impose on others concerning the Lord’s Supper. Baptists have always insisted that it is the Lord’s Table, not theirs; and He alone has the right to say who shall sit at His table. No amount of so called brotherly love, or ecumenical spirit, should cause us to invite to His table those who have not complied with the requirements laid down plainly in His inspired Word. With respect to Bible doctrines we must always use the scripture as our guide and practice. For Baptists, two of the most important doctrines are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper. These are the only two doctrines we recognize as Church Ordinances. The Bible is very clear in teaching how these doctrines are to be practiced and by whom.

      We only have two ordinances that we must never compromise or we risk our very existence, they are Baptism and The Lord’s Supper.

      The moment we deviate from the precise method God has prescribed we have started down the slippery slope of error. True Baptists have held fast to the original doctrine of The Lord’s Supper from the time of Christ and the Apostles.

      Unfortunately, in this day of what the Bible describes as the age of luke warmness, Baptists are becoming careless in regard to strictly following the pattern laid out for us in Scripture. Many of our Bible colleges are graduating otherwise sincere, Godly and dedicated pastors and teachers who have not been taught the very strict, biblical requirements that surround the Lord’s Supper. Any Bible college that neglects to teach its students the differences surrounding Closed Communion, Close Communion and Open Communion is not simply short changing its students; it is also not equipping their students to carry on sound Bible traditions. The result is men of God and churches that fall into error. And as we will see, this is serious error.

      Should we as Baptists ignore the restrictions made by our Lord and Master? NO! When we hold to the restrictions placed upon the Lord’s Supper by our Master, we are defending the "faith which was once delivered to the saints" Jude 3.

      The Lord’s Supper is rigidly restricted and I will show this in the following facts:

      IT IS RESTRICTED AS TO PLACE

      A. I Corinthians 11:18 says, "When ye come together in the church." This does not mean the church building; they had none. In other words, when the church assembles. The supper is to be observed by the church, in church capacity. Again this does not mean the church house. Ekklesia, the Greek word for church, means assembly. "When ye come together in the church," is when the church assembles.

      B. When we say church we mean an assembly of properly baptized believers. Acts 2:41-42: "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers."

      The church is made up of saved people who are baptized by immersion. In the Bible, belief precedes baptism. That’s the Bible way.

      Acts 8:12-13, "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

      When we say properly baptized, we mean immersed. No unbeliever should take the Lord’s supper, and no non-immersed believer should take the supper. Those who are sprinkled are not baptized and cannot receive the supper. The Greek word for baptize is baptizo, and it always means to immerse.

      "In every case where communion is referred to, or where it may possibly have been administered, the believers had been baptized Acts 2:42; 8:12; 8:38; 10:47; 6:14-15; 18:8; 20:7. Baptism comes before communion, just as repentance and faith precede baptism".

      C. The Lord’s Supper is for baptized believers in church capacity: "When ye come together in the church," again not a building, but the assembly of the properly baptized believers.

      D. The fact that the Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, to be observed in church capacity, is pointed out by the fact that it is for those who have been immersed and added to the fellowship of the church.

      E. The Lord’s Supper is never spoken of in connection with individuals. When it is referred to, it is only referred to in reference to baptized believers in local church capacity I Cor. 11:20-26).

      I want to quote Dr. W.W. Hamilton,

      "The individual administration of the ordinance has no Bible warrant and is a relic of Romanism. The Lord’s Supper is a church ordinance, and anything which goes beyond or comes short of this fails for want of scriptural example or command".

      “The practice of taking a little communion kit to hospitals, nursing homes, etc. is unscriptural and does not follow the scriptural example.”

      IT IS RESTRICTED TO A UNITED CHURCH

      A. The Bible in I Cor. 11:18 is very strong in condemning divisions around the Lord’s table. For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it.
      19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
      20 When ye come together therefore into one place, this is not to eat the Lord's supper.

      There were no less than four divisions in the Corinthian church.
      I Cor. 1:12: "Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ."

      Because of these divisions, it was impossible for them to scripturally eat the Lord’s Supper. Division in the local church is reason to hold off observing the Lord’s Supper. But there are also other reasons to forego taking the Lord’s Supper. If there is gross sin in the membership we do not take it. Here is scriptural evidence for this: 1Co 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our Passover is sacrificed for us:
      8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
      10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

      B. At this point, I want to ask these questions: Are there not doctrinal divisions among the many denominations? Is it not our doctrinal differences that cause us to be separate religious bodies?

      IT IS RESTRICTED BY DOCTRINE

      A. Those in the early church at Jerusalem who partook "continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine" Acts 2:42. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

      B. Those that do not hold to apostolic truth are not to partake. This means there is to be discipline in the local body. How can you discipline those who do not belong to the local body? You can’t. The clear command of scripture is to withdraw fellowship from those who are not doctrinally sound.

      II Thes 3:6: "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
      Rom. 16:17: "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."
      To commune together means to have the same doctrine.
      II Thes. 2:15: "Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle."
      II John 10-11: "If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds."

      C. Some Baptists in our day have watered down this doctrine by practicing what they call “Close Communion.” By this they mean that they believe that members of another Baptist church may take communion with us because they are of the same beliefs. Once again, this is unscriptural.

      The welcome to the Lord's Table should not be extended beyond the discipline of the local church. When we take the Lord’s Supper there is supposed to be no gross sin among us and no divisions among us. We have no idea of the spiritual condition of another church’s members. If there is sin or division in the case of this other church’s members, we have no way of knowing it. We cannot discipline them because they are not members of our church. This is why we practice “Closed” communion, meaning it is restricted solely to our church membership. 
      So then, in closing I would like to reiterate the three different ideas concerning the Lord’s Supper and who is to take it. 
      Closed Communion = Only members of a single local church. 
      Close Communion = Members of like faith and order may partake. 
      Open Communion = If you claim to be a Christian, or simply attending the service, you may partake. 
      It is no small thing to attempt to change that which was implemented by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 
      Mt. 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. 
      Many of our Baptist churches have a real need to consider the gravity of the act of observing The Lord’s Supper. It is not a light thing that is to be taken casually or without regard to the spiritual condition of ourselves or our church.
      1Co. 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

       28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

       29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

       30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

Prescription medication and Sorcery


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A speaker on sermonaudio was claiming that the pharmaceutical industry is dabbling in sorcery. The bible uses the Greek word "pharmakeia" which the word pharmacy is derived from.


I guess the "wise men from the east" that visited Christ were magicians (magi)too therefore the study of the dark arts is OK? This is the prOBlem when you make a dead language that nOBody speaks anymore your final authority.
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I guess the "wise men from the east" that visited Christ were magicians (magi)too therefore the study of the dark arts is OK? This is the prOBlem when you make a dead language that nOBody speaks anymore your final authority.


I never ONCE said I agree with the speaker, so if you have a gripe about it...tell it to the speaker on sermonaudio. You can email him.
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Doctors also have snakes too.I don't know exactly why they choose it but there are some very good christian doctors as well. I have a few, in fact my son's allergist seem very open with Christianity, they have a fish symbols, bible, etc. I think they are from India but they very good doctors and have helped our son alot.


I think they got the symbol from Greek. Which medicine got most of their terms from (plus latin) anyway.

I think it is going to be hard to get rid of the symbol though because people relate it to medicine for years and they prOBably find it hard to trust anything that don't have that symbol.

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I'll give Kevin a + for finding that.

Seems I remember something like that being said many moons ago

The article is true, many of the symbols are next to impossible to trace down and know what is a fact or not a fact.

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:amen::amen::amen: His by Grace


I do not believe it is wrong to take prescription meds. I feel a lot of the time there are natural herbs that would do the same jOB safer, but not always. But as to the word pharmakeia, I believe is one of the keys to why many drugs should be by presciption only. Illegal on the streets. I believe that if we look at witchcraft (spells, enchantments, unexplainable sights) of the past you will find drugs making people see things that were not real. The witch could convince them of things because they were unable to think clearly. They were high on drugs. Now I do believe even the drugs have a purpose in God's plan. They are to help with pain for those who are ill, or about to die. They are not to drowned the sorrows of life every night. I believe those who want to use them in such a way (just looking for the high) are doing the same thing as those that would have been called a witch. What did the Old Testament say for the jews to do with a witch???

Exo 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an OBserver of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
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:amen::amen: Thank you for making where you stand so clear! I agree because I am persuaded this is what His Word is saying!! in Christ just trying to abide! His by Grace


Understanding the root word of pharmacy gives us a warning of the dangers of drug use - even pharmaceutical drugs can be dangerous and cause prOBlems to an extent. How many drugs are put on the market that are still in the experimental stage - a lot. How many prescription drugs can cloud your mind and mess with your body? A lot. How many doctors get kickbacks from drugs and therefore promote them when the patient doesn't really need that drug? A lot.

I am not against pharmacy drugs, per se, but there are certain reasons to be cautious of them and that industry producing them.

The terms used in the New Testament, from the same Greek word, have a reference to drug use associated with the occult and false religion, not just drugs in general - though we can certainly make the application - that just as God does not want us involved in the occult aspect of drug use, He also does not want us involved in drugs (ie. ones that are not prescription medications).
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:amen::amen: You know some of the O.T. that many people miss because they don't bother to study the O.T. just the N.T. This is why we must study ALL of His Word!! :twocents: His by Grace


I had thought that the serpent was supposed to be a representation of the serpent that Moses lifted up in the wilderness that brought healing to the people of Israel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius#Biblical
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Please don't stop posting!! Many thing's in other area's you have shared have really, really blessed me!! Please keep posting!! The Lord uses's all differently here so don't let anyone stop you from doing His will for you here!! Your sister in Christ, His by Grace


My first contention was that his sermons was a bit off in left field. However, as always, I wanted to compare what had been said in his sermon with the opinions of those here on OB. I agree with Jerry that there are reasons to be cautious of some meds such as antidepressants ,and that such meds do more damage than cure. I never once stated that taking prescription meds are tantamount to sorcery. The speaker cited several passages such as the one I quoted in Revelation and all I sought for was some opinions on this and all I got was misunderstanding of what I had said, except for Jerry. Btw, just to clarify...I don't, and have not condemned anyone taking prescription medication if they have a script. I have a prOBlem with legalization of drug use leading to drug abuse -- especially those who don't have a prescription.

I'm opting out of posting...too much headache and misunderstandings.

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My boyfriend who works in a medical clinic talks about this subject all the time. He told me he doesn't trust a lot of doctors because of reasons Jerry mentioned such as the kickbacks and such. Also they don't test which drugs contraindicate other drugs. They do know of a few but there are far too many drugs out there to know which drugs should not be taken with others. He also talks about the side effects. While drugs are not inherently evil, many doctors no longer care to cure people but push drugs on them that are uneccessary.

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Yes, and there be those who will prescribe one medicine for you, instead of another which would be the best for you, simply because he receives bribes from that drug maker, or perhaps a larger bribe.

One of my favorite past doctors, I was so disappointed for I learned he received all expense paid trips by a drug company. I feel it is a big wrong for the drug companies to bribe doctors in the manner, but many doctors feel its a legitimate way for them to earn money.


Ps 26:10 In whose hands is mischief, and their right hand is full of bribes.

1Sa 8:3 And his sons walked not in his ways, but turned aside after lucre, and took bribes, and perverted judgment.

As the Holy Word says, bribes perverts judgment, and doctor who takes them is not truly out for the best interest of his patient. Its sad at the amount of bribing that takes place in most business, its become a way of life.

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There are also the little things that drug companies give the practitioners to keep their name in front of them, such as pens, notepads and post it notes, all with the company's name on them.

Here where we have a National Health Service, if I need 10 tablets and the box has 30, the Dr will prescribe 10 taks and the pharmacist will take 10 out of the box and give me those. In France where they have an Insurance based system the doctor will prescribe 30 tabs and tell me to only take 10.

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I've done a lot of research on pediatric psychotropic drugs for children. These drugs do not cure or treat any physical illness (unless, like most evolutionists, you believe that every aspect of our nature is purely physical). I agree that medication to treat physical illnesses and symptoms has its place, but we should be very concerned about medication, legal or not, that alters the mind or emotions.

Isaiah treated Hezekiah's boil with a lump of figs and God didn't condemn him for that. So I know that medication used strictly for an OBvious physical ailment must be okay, but I have a lot of questions about pills that alter our thinking or change our emotions.

Does anybody know why certain medications stop people from hearing voices or feeling certain emotions? Does everyone on here believe that psychiatric prOBlems are purely physical? And if not, then should we be taking medication that has an effect beyond the physical? What does Rev. 18:23 mean? That all nations are being deceived by some witch doctor or illegal drugs? I've discussed this with my husband, and he thinks it's interesting that the word "sorceries" in Rev. 18:23 comes from the Greek word for medicine although in other places it is translated from the Greek word for magic or witchcraft, but we don't have all the answers.

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Don't forget that Luke was a doctor...I don't believe God is against medicine. I believe He's against the abuse of it. There many things that can be used for illness that, if abused, become addictive and therefore wrong. The massive drug usage we see all around us is more in line with what I think God is saying in Rev. People who are strung out on drugs and/or drunkards are easily controlled and deceived...

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I've done a lot of research on pediatric psychotropic drugs for children. These drugs do not cure or treat any physical illness (unless, like most evolutionists, you believe that every aspect of our nature is purely physical). I agree that medication to treat physical illnesses and symptoms has its place, but we should be very concerned about medication, legal or not, that alters the mind or emotions.

Isaiah treated Hezekiah's boil with a lump of figs and God didn't condemn him for that. So I know that medication used strictly for an OBvious physical ailment must be okay, but I have a lot of questions about pills that alter our thinking or change our emotions.

Does anybody know why certain medications stop people from hearing voices or feeling certain emotions? Does everyone on here believe that psychiatric prOBlems are purely physical? And if not, then should we be taking medication that has an effect beyond the physical? What does Rev. 18:23 mean? That all nations are being deceived by some witch doctor or illegal drugs? I've discussed this with my husband, and he thinks it's interesting that the word "sorceries" in Rev. 18:23 comes from the Greek word for medicine although in other places it is translated from the Greek word for magic or witchcraft, but we don't have all the answers.


Brain is a strange and mysterious thing. God made the Earth, all the little critters, and people in a way where we can study how things work.
So yes, I think psychiatric prOBlem is physical. I have cochlear implant, and even understanding how the electrode help me hear by sending signal to my brain using electric impulses. It doesn't make sense, but it works.


People with psychiatric prOBlems still able to make decision if they want to believe or not (they talk about God all the time... even though they get delusion about it). I have even know alot who rejected God because they feel they can't distinguish from psychiatric prOBlem and faith in God. So, medicine or not, I don't think it will alter their mind too much. In fact, the only time I think it will is if they are unconscious or veggie state.
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My humble opinion only.

Behavioral drugs for children, most of the times its because the father & mother have not took time to correct their children and teach them to behave, all they have received from their parents is mixed signals. This causes the children to be totally confused, especially when they enter public school.

I saw it 1st hand with my daughter and her husband, I hated it when they gave my grandson such drugs.

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Jerry, many people believe the biblical answer to behavioral prOBlems is abusive, yet they have no prOBlem with controlling behavior through drugs. If you look at the symptoms that Ritalin is supposed to correct, most of them are behavioral.

Unfortunately, an alarming percentage of American children are taking these psychotropic medications not because they are sick, but because they have behavioral prOBlems. And the sad thing is, the medicine often works, producing a complacent child with a weakened spirit, I believe. It certainly does nothing to "deliver his soul from hell."

But anyway, I can't say all these medications are sorcery because it's a complicated issue, and I certainly don't have the answers....just a lot of questions.

As a side note, I think it's interesting that the word "psychological" is defined by Webster (1828) as "Pertaining to a treatise on the soul, or to the study of the soul of man." Maybe back then people were smarter, but I'm amazed that so many people really believe that psychology is the study of white and gray matter.

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