Bro. West

Nothing happens by chance when it come to the Book and I appreciate your research. These chapter and verse marking, which you call a tool. They surely were not given by the devil or groups that wanted to control the masses. To believe that God was not behind this is foolish. They have helped to memorize Writ and help preach the Gospel and bring the lost to a saving knowledge of the Saviour. I do not know if they were inspired or guide to do so. There is no reason not to retain them at all. The printing press was used to print Bibles, should we retain it as a means to publish his word or should we ban the press and go back to hand written works. God's provenance shows up in both the markings and the press.

Then how do you account for the arrangement of books in a premillennial order, the break in Isaiah 40:3 matching the 40th book Matthew with John the Baptist or Isaiah 66 matching the 66 book, Revelation. How do you explain But the men of Sodom [were] wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly. Gen 13:13 which has 13 words and 39 letters 3x13. This is rebelling against human nature and the first time 13 appears in Writ it has to do with rebelling (Gen.14.4) and that Judas Iscariot has 13 letters and he rebelled against Jesus Christ. And Jesus gave Judas the SOP (Son Of Perdition). John 6:66 From that [time] many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. And we are not even mentioning the Large Block Letters and the BRANCH or the connection with the inscription at Calvary. And I will give you one more the Patriarchal trinity. Abraham, Isaac and Jacob whom one could call the patriarchal trinity appears in Scripture to designate the true line of the nation of Israel. This trinity appears 33 times, which is noteworthy Yet notice when the last time it is used. (Acts 7:32) [Saying], I [am] the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Then Moses trembled, and durst not behold. This is part of the sermon Stephen preached before the people (Jews), scribes and elders of Israel. Where upon hearing his message they stoned him. The patriarchal trinity never shows up again and Israel as a nation is becoming the tail and not the head in this dispensation as far as position is concerned (Acts 28:24-28). You see I believe I am reading a live BOOK (Heb. 4:12) The above is from one of my devotional I send out. I can not give you a verse to explain these things, you may scoff and call them accidental and there are many more. I wonder if I should chain down my Bible when I go to sleep for it might want to run around my den and knock over the furniture. Do not forget the BOOK is called a HIS. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things [are] naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Heb 4:13 You can not see these things if you believe we have a dead book and run to "the Greek". I am amazed at the English preserved, infallible and precious BOOK. HAPPY NEW YEAR

italicized words AREN'T advanced inspiration...NO MATTER HOW YOU TRY TO PUSH IT! I do not recall using the term advance inspiration. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.] 1John 2:23 These last ten words were originally written by the Apostle John, that is inspiration. They without manuscript support wrote down what the inspired original said, that is revelation. Had they had what we have now there would be not need of italicized words. They were not writing something as in the “Lost books of the Bible” and claiming inspiration. There only 3 possibilities: they just made it up. It came from the devil or The Holy Spirit REVEALED it to them. We are not talking about one or two words to transfer from one idiom to another, but a complete sentence. Had they left out these 10 words critics now would have a field day. Had they left these off verse 23 would of flowed into verse 24 without any problem. Question, where did they get these 10 words? You have 3 options, pick one. Happy New Year

because we are poore Instruments to make GODS holy Trueth to be yet more and more knowen unto the people, whom they desire still to keepe in ignorance To say that these learned translators were humble would be an understatement. And to think that the Holy Spirit was not there is quite foolish. For if God puts his word above his own name (Psa. 138:2) would he let them pick out English words at random? I believe that the order of the books in the Bible, the placement of chapters, verse numbering and words were guided by God. And yes, I know there is a difference between inspiration and preservation, but there is also providence where “Trueth to be yet more and more knowen unto the people”. While I can not give you a verse that states God had a hand in placement of books, chapters and verses numbering and words as he deems necessary. This obviously was done in order to keep them out of ignorance and not have (they Popish) it chained to a pulpit or forbidden to the common plow boy. And yes, I read your critique of the word churches and your labor evolved. However, I have software also (boy are we spoiled at one time I would have to count by hand how many times a word appeared) and can do the same. The KJV haters attack this reading (Acts 19:37) like a mad dog. The passage reveals that pagans have churches. The Mormons and Catholicism testify to that. If you translate it temples you will not see that. Martin Luther in his Bible translated it “Kirchenrauber” which means church robbers in German. He could have translated it temples. Another passage you might consider is 1John 2:23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: [(but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.] 1John 2:23 The last 10 words are in italics, which you know means they had no manuscripts to justify this reading. Were they taking liberty with the word of God by adding these or is this advance revelation? We have them now, but they did not. Even the stinking NIV has to have this. This reading must drive KJV haters nuts. I bet dollars to donuts they wish no support was found. Happy New Year I should of send you my poem for Santa.

In order to put to rest the overtones on advance revelations as being false doctrine, I will give just one example and one only. If more were given it would be a waste of time for if you reject this you will reject any others. For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither robbers of churches, nor yet blasphemers of your goddess. Act 19:37 KJV, Geneva and Tyndale also say churches. Ever newer libel translates churches as temples when it comes to this including the NKJV. Why did the translators of the KJV carry on this advance revelation? I mean surely they were learned in the original languages. Do you who advocate the original languages cry error? If so, then why not. The chapter from verse 21 to the end is about the goddess Diana which fell from Jupiter. Do you know of a pagan “churches” that worships the Queen of heaven (Jer. 44), who’s name has been changed to Mary. Now you know that pagans have churches and craftsmen as well

In regards to the statement that you can not fellowship with those who advocate false doctrine is rather high minded. 1. Some Baptist believe the tribulation will only be 3 ½ years other teach 7. 2. Some Baptist teach close communion and other open. 3. Some Baptist teach the gap fact or theory others do not. In each of the 3 cases some one is teaching a false doctrine. You can not have it both ways, and of course we are not allowing damnable doctrine to enter in. It was said or implied that I would add to or subtracted words from the TEXT. I would rather die first, that is a lie. The original post was given rather naively for I stated that I wanted to polish it and check it for errors. But prove all things: hold fast that which is good. 1Th 5:21 I have done this over the years with men who love the BOOK more than me. I have never said from a pulpit or a class room that a better rendering should be, unfortunately the KJV said this (Easter rather than Passover or Jesus rather than Joshua) And when I stated in a previous post that: !Tim.3: 15, And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16, All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: To use verse 16 as pertaining to the originals and disregard verse 15 is foolish. Did little Tim have the originals? My, My what a lucky kid. Only one brother acknowledged that. The second definition of revelation is stated in Webster 1828. 12. 2. That which is revealed; appropriately, the sacred truths which God has communicated to man for his instruction and direction. The revelations of God are contained in the Old and New Testament. John Robinson stated the same thing in his address to the Mayflower. For he was very confident the Lord had more truth and light yet to breake forth out of his holy Word. He took occasion also miserably to bewaile the state and condition of the Reformed churches, who were come to a period in Religion, and would goe no further then the instruments of their Reformation: As for example, the Lutherans they could not be drawne to goe beyond what Luther saw, for whatever part of God’s will he had further imparted and revealed to Calvin, they will rather die then embrace it. And so also, saith he, you see the Calvinists, they stick where he left them: A misery much to bee lamented; For though they were precious shining lights in their times, yet God had not revealed his whole will to them: And were they now living, saith hee, they would bee as ready and willing to embrace further [2] light, as that they had received. Here also he put us in mind What is Bro. Robinson is he a heretic? I wot not. He is speaking of further light and not adding, subtracting or twisting Scripture. This is new light contain in the BOOK itself. And I would not consider him a JW nor myself. And I know that the English language is changing. Gay, prick, bowels, and suffer have been altered and debased as well as other words. I do not claim to be infallible nor a bible scholar. A scholar is one who hath mastered his subject. I Lord willing will comment on this more later. Merry Christ------mas

I am not advocating adding or subtracting to the words of God in any way shape or form, in fact I have gotten others out of translations that do just that. What I am saying can be summed up below, by John Robinson to the Mayflower. For he was very confident the Lord had more truth and light yet to breake forth out of his holy Word. He took occasion also miserably to bewaile the state and condition of the Reformed churches, who were come to a period in Religion, and would goe no further then the instruments of their Reformation: As for example, the Lutherans they could not be drawne to goe beyond what Luther saw, for whatever part of God’s will he had further imparted and revealed to Calvin, they will rather die then embrace it. And so also, saith he, you see the Calvinists, they stick where he left them: A misery much to bee lamented; For though they were precious shining lights in their times, yet God had not revealed his whole will to them: And were they now living, saith hee, they would bee as ready and willing to embrace further [2] light, as that they had received. Here also he put us in mind

Glad to see a reaction on LBC. The original post was given and with a pretext of that I wanted to polish it and check for errors. I wrote this over 12 years ago. One of the ways I check myself and doctrine is to give it out, usually private to men who have read the Book over and over again. A friend of mine a pastor and fellow street preaching friend hath read it over a 100 times. I will ask him see if you can shoot it full of holes. (This one of my reasons for Christian fellowship) I believe that is a good thing for if you come in with a preconceived idea you will usually leave with the same. I try hard not to do this for it is human nature. Yes, I pray over the things I write and contrary to what was said I do not believe the KJV is a reliable translation. It is an infallible translation. It is similar to Acts 1:3. To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: Act 1:3 The newer libels say convincing proofs or many. There is a big difference. I can convince someone into falsehood, but if it is infallible it is infallible. The main theme of the work was the BRANCH and Jesus Christ in a Sunday school lesson years ago and not in exhaustive work. If it would have been the whore would have been mentioned. And yes, there is advance light in the Scripture, if not we would probably all be A-millennial. NO ONE is a Bible scholar for a scholar is one who has master his subject. C. Larkin stated in his work in 1918 that Israel would be restored, he was laughed at by all the “scholars”. After 1948 they no longer laugh. Bullinger the “scholar” stated that the LBC could not be justified. I will close with what I put on all devotionals The author of this work believes without reservation that the King James Bible is more than just a priceless work of literary art, which it is. But it has indeed been preserved without error by God's providence as an infallible book that the common man in the English speaking world can hold and own, and the light it can give rests entirely on that man's faith in it and its Author. And all those who believe otherwise have either been duped, have an unclean motive, are just ignorant or see no issue of importance in having God's word readily available in an infallible form. No amount of linguist ability can give any extra light if there is doubt to its content, the Holy Spirit will not honour anyone that wants to subject this English Bible to an inferior position. Thank you Bro. West

After reading your comments of confusion. I do not know if your trying to be a philosopher, sophist or what. If there are any contradictions it is the only contradictions are with you, Not God or the BOOK. ANGER: God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry [with the wicked] every day. Psa 7:11 39, ¶ See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. 40, For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. 41, If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me. Deu. 32 Ps. 2 4, He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. 5, Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. LOVE: He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 1John 4:8 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 Notice that is past tense (loved). God at one time for all eternality to see displayed his ultimate love at Calvary, if you reject that love you will go to hell with your arguments and all. God is a balanced being, he has a negative side and a positive side. I justly belong on the negative side, but because I trust his Son I am on the positive. QUITE playing fun and games. I do not know if you are saved or lost. Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth. Job 40:4

https://www.kjv1611.org.uk/ has my works from years ago. I want to review it and correct anything I missed or may have been at error But I will post it here anyway it is long. LARGE BLOCK CAPITAL LETTERS ON THE CROSS Above the head of our Saviour an inscription was placed. Have you ever wondered about these Large Block Capital Letters (LBC). And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS.(Matthew 27:37) And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS. (Mark 15:26) And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.(Luke 23:38) And Pilate wrote a title, and put [it] on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. (John 19:19) You will notice that the entire inscription given is different in each account of the four Gospels. Therefore there are only three explanations. 1.The accounts are spurious and there are contradictions in the Bible. 2.Each author only quoted part of the entire inscription as the Holy Spirit led them of the three languages given. 3.There were four different inscriptions The only possible explanation is number two because the Scriptures read inscription not inscriptions and it was written in three different languages. Nevertheless, many translations do not use the LBC of our Bible and many believe there is no authority for them doing so (Bullinger’s Companion Bible Appendix number 48). It matters not what these authorities state or translations do, the Holy Spirit has over time guarded and directed the use of LBC’s, commas, semicolons, verse and chapter numbering and the like as he saw fit. These Large Block Capital letters (LBC) on the cross signal is a start of a new dispensation, The CHURCH AGE. Just as in his birth when God took on flesh the LBC’S are there. Four times the name Jesus is printed outside of the inscription on the cross in the Gospels in LBC (Matt1: 21,25 and Luke 1:31; 2:21). These LBC’s signal that the new wine has arrived and will be poured into a new bottle (New Testament) and not old bottles (Old Testament. (Mat 9:17) Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. In the Old Testament God called out a nation with LBC letters. Exo 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by [the name of] God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. Psa 83:18 That [men] may know that thou, whose name alone [is] JEHOVAH, [art] the most high over all the earth. Isa 26:4 Trust ye in the LORD for ever: for in the LORD JEHOVAH [is] everlasting strength: Isa 12:2 Behold, God [is] my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH [is] my strength and [my] song; he also is become my salvation. The salvation of the nation of Israel was JEHOVAH. In the New Testament God calls out the Church with the name JESUS. The salvation of all men now is Jesus. We Christians do not call upon the name JEHOVAH for salvation and drink from the OLD WINE under the LAW. We call upon the name of Jesus, which appears in LBC letters also, this is the New Wine and many heresies in doctrine come from sipping from the Old Wine under the Law. Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Let us see four times the name JEHOVAH appears in LBC’s and Four times the name JESUS appears in LBC’s Yes, we know that JAH also appears in LBC’s, but here it says to sing praise to his name, which one is JEHOVAH or JESUS (I do not know about you but I am enjoying this). Perhaps, JAH stands for J=Jesus, A= the Almighty and H= the Holy Spirit-----I know I am nuts and guilty of bibliolatry. Yet, I would rather be a squirrel for the Lord than a snake for the devil. You see both the Father and the Son deserve special billing! But then the Father and the Son are one. How can you explain this eternal being the only answer that can be given is with LBC letters I AM THAT I AM. Paul manifests that the starting point of the first LBC is believing that the I Am exists----this is called faith, without this all else is futile. Everything else rests on this mandatory requirement! Heb 11:6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Many of the LBC’S and the inscriptions at Calvary point us to the fact that he is the BRANCH. Before we go to the Gospels and the advance revelations that only the King James Bible can establish. Do you promise not to tell anyone, but I have often kissed my Bible. If you have not perhaps you have a “holey liable” and not The HOLY BIBLE There is a Book with pages worn that the faithful read and the critics scorn The Inscription on the cross! The Gospel of Matthew And set up over his head his accusation written, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS. Matthew 27:37 Man calls this an accusation, God calls it his position in LBC’S letters Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. The only time the word branch is capitalized is when referring to our LORD. Notice how this points to Jesus being the King of the Jews with another LBC’S—if the LORD says he is the Branch the King it is not an accusation. Man’s rejection and in this dispensation the rejection of the natural branch (Romans 11) of their King has graffed in a wild branch (ME AND YOU)! If Matthew’s Gospel portrays Jesus as the King, it is only fitting that a perfect King should have his birth announced in LBC letters. Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. Mat 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. (Matt 1: 21,25). The genealogy in Matthew opens with this Branch being from David the king. Mat 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. David had many sons that became king, but none could ever be the perfect King except the one in LBC letters JESUS (The Branch the King). For this is the KING that even king David will bow to and worship. Mat 22:44 The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? The sad note is when the nation of Israel rejected the Branch the King (The King of the Jews) and stated John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. Their own branch suffered. Rom 11:16-21 For if the firstfruit [be] holy, the lump [is]also [holy]: and if the root [be]holy, so [are]the branches.(17) And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; (18) Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. (19) Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.(20) Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: (21) For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed]lest he also spare not thee. The Gospel of Mark Mar 15:26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS. The inscription given in Mark is the shortest (LBC) of what was on the cross. If Mark portrays our Lord as a servant this would match another LBC in the Old Testament. Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they [are] men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH. The Gospel of Mark portrays Jesus as a servant therefore who cares about his genealogy no LBC regarding his birth is necessary and his inscription on the cross is the shortest of all. The less said about a servant the better. Phi 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: While our Lord is the King of all Kings, he is also the servant of all servants and when Zechariah writes of this BRANCH he uses the LBC letters. The Gospel of Luke Luke 23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS. If the Gospel of Luke portrays our Lord Jesus as a man, which it does then this brings us to another LBC speaking of him as such. Zec 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: (Sides note three times the phrase Behold the man appears in Holy Writ and each time it has to do with a King.) Luke’s Gospel to announce the birth of the perfect man (Luke 1: 31; 2:21) with LBC’S. Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luke 2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. While a converted Jew can point to the genealogy in Matthew that speaks of David the king, what are we to point to as being saved Gentiles? Behold the man whose name is the BRANCH genealogy given in Luke goes back to Adam the son of God. YES, I know that in Christ Jesus there is neither Jew nor Gentile (Gal. 3:28). The Jew can look at his family tree and in spite of all the withered and broken off branches (Romans 11) he has a perfect BRANCH he can claim… Jer. 23:5. (The genealogy in Matthew points to this BRANCH and in LBC letters it is displayed both in the Old and New Testament). But what of us wild branches whom by the grace and severity of God have been grafted in, do we not have a BRANCH on the family tree we can claim? For most of the branches on the Gentile family tree have been blinded by the abominable branch (Isa. 14:19) YES, we do “Behold the man whose name is the BRANCH” can be traced back to Adam. And in LARGE BLOCK CAPITAL LETTERS (LBC) it was displayed in three diver languages for All the sons of Adam. This Son of man, second Adam and this man the Branch is not only the God and Saviour of the Jew but the Gentile as well. Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. Rom 3:29 [Is he] the God of the Jews only? [is he] not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Excuse me for a moment as try to recover from joyful chills—--- Well Glory. Thank you for your patience. I am better now. The Gospel of John John 19:19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put [it] on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. John 1:46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see. Yes, Nathanael and the good thing is a holy thing—Brother. Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. The Gospel of John has no genealogy for The Son has no beginning. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The beginning of eternity, how could God explain this to our finite minds? By simply saying in the BEGINNING! The first time God tries to explain this to man it appears with LBC letters. Exo 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. (THREE I AM’S=TRINITY) Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name, and what [is] his son's name, if thou canst tell? WE KNOW THE SON’S NAME IT APPEARS IN LARGE BLOCK CAPITAL LETTERS!! JESUS You see even though Jesus is the perfect King, the perfect Servant and the perfect Man that would not have redeemed us. Because of our wickedness and his love, it took the Lord himself to be our righteousness and the LBC letters loudly proclaim what Paul did writing the book of Romans (THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS). In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this [is] his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Jer 23:6) Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Rom 5:11 And not only [so], but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. Seeing no man is good or righteous in himself it took the righteousness of God in the flesh to purchase our salvation. Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God. Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. There is much more that could be said about the rest of the LBC letters But this should be enough for now to wet your appetite.

You misrepresent what I said, perhaps unknowingly. I speak not of the Catholic Universal Church, but of the body of Christ. There are Baptist Church all over the world full of saved believers, they are all members of the body of Christ. There is only one body the Bride. There are not bodies of Christ. A brother in Texas and a brother in Ohio from different local Baptist churches are part of the body not member of the whore. Do you think that John Wesley will be on the outside looking in. I know he is a friend of the bride --unreal. And I am not even talking about the Lord Supper here, which is a diver subject.

www KJV1611.org.uk I did not know it was there. I simplify did a google search and typed in Large Block Capital Letters KJV. I down loaded and need to maybe polish it us.

It almost sounds like Baptist Bride. Catholics call (yummy, yummy, yummy I got God in my tummy) a sacrament and not an ordinance there is a big difference. The one is scriptural the other is blasphemy. We are not speaking of a wafer and wine (cannibals' and vampires), but of unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine (grape juice). Nor are we speaking of the universal church, but the body of Christ (the saved). I would not refuse C. I. Scofield a Congregational minister. Make sense use his Bible and refuse him the Lord's Supper--foolishness. No pastor can totally police his flock and generally does not make unannounced house calls. That is why a man must examine himself. For this cause many [are] weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 1Co 11:30 God will kill a Christian if need be. It is not to be taken lightly. I repent and with fear I examine myself, it is a serious event. Any saved person has a right to partake if he keep the why and the warnings that were given.

I wrote a piece on this subject at hand about ten years ago, which still can be found on line. I know how it ties in with BRANCH and the four gospel (inscriptions on the cross, Jesus name at birth and elsewhere) and how these show up in other places. This writing on LBCS It was lengthy but I am sure I overlooked something. There are those that teach that there are no valid reasons, but as a Bible Believer I know better

As a writer of poems myself, I can appreciate the work. It has been said that we write our best in our highs and lows. And hymns are poems set to music (It is well with my soul) is a prefect example. Those who have never been addicted to drugs or booze know not what we go through. They have stricken me, [shalt thou say, and] I was not sick; they have beaten me, [and] I felt [it] not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again. Pro 23:35. And seeing you work at a mission I will close this poem of mine that perhaps might be helpful Brother Jerry. ALCOHOLISM AH COME TO THE NECTAR IN BOTTLES OR CANS LOFTY THINGS IT WILL PROMISE INVISIBLE DEMANDS CALL IT YOUR REDEEMER, SURRENDER YOUR SOUL OPEN HELL’S FLOOD GATES UNTIL YOU BEHOLD HERE IS ADDICTION JUST THIRTY PIECES THE FARE O COME TO MY FOUNTAIN ENTER MY LAIR LIQUID IRON MAIDEN DECEIVE ME AGAIN INSANITY YOUR OFFSPRING DAMNATION YOUR FRIEND SEEK AND LAMENT FOR THOSE PLEASURES YOU GAVE MY NECTAR A VENOM MY SOLACE THE GRAVE Written by Bill West

KJV Dictionary Definition: mortal mortal MOR'TAL, a. L. mortalis, from mors, death, or morior, to die, that is, to fall. 1. Subject to death; destined to die. Man is mortal. 2. Deadly; destructive to life; causing death, or that must cause death; as a mortal wound; mortal poison. The fruit Of that forbidden tree whose mortal taste Brought death into the world, and all our woe-- 3. Bringing death; terminating life. Safe in the hand of one disposing power, Or in the natal or the mortal hour. 4. Deadly in malice or purpose; as a mortal foe. In colloquial language, a mortal foe is an inveterate foe. 5. Exposing to certain death; incurring the penalty of death; condemned to be punished with death; not venial; as a mortal sin. 6. Human; belonging to man who is mortal; as mortal wit or knowledge; mortal power. The voice of God To mortal ear is dreadful. 7. Extreme; violent. Not elegant. The nymph grew pale, and in a mortal fright-- MOR'TAL, n. Man; a being subject to death; a human being. Warn poor mortals left behind. It is often used in ludicrous and colloquial language. I can behold no mortal now. mortality MORTAL'ITY, n. L. mortalitas. Subjection to death or the necessity of dying. When I saw her die, I then did think on your mortality. 1. Death. Gladly would I meet Mortality, my sentence. 2. Frequency of death; actual death of great numbers of men or beasts; as a time of great mortality. 3. Human nature. Take these tears, mortality's relief. 4. Power of destruction. Mortality and mercy in Vienna, Live in thy tongue and heart. mortalize MOR'TALIZE, v.t. To make mortal. mortally MOR'TALLY, adv. Irrecoverably; in a manner that must cause death; as mortally wounded. 1. Extremely. Adrian mortally envied poets, painters and artificers, in works wherein he had a vein to excel. Definitions from Webster's American Dictionary of the English Language, 1828. We could play word games all day brother, the point is you live in a mortal body now and it will die, soon I hope we will have a new body that will never die. So let us move on and answer the original about Translations that want to deny the deity of Jesus Christ. Suppose we have 10 verses that teach and bare witness to the fact that Jesus is God manifested in the flesh (there are more), that would be a strong witness. Now let us say I remove 5 of them, is my witness is my case as strong? The answer is obvious. It is sad, very sad. Satan has always been against the two seeds. The living Word and the written word. A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. Gal 5:9 When you change God manifested to he who (1Tim.3:16) destroy 1John 5:7, call Jesus the begotten God (John 1:18), call Joseph Jesus' father (Luke 2:33), remove without a cause dealing with angry (Matt. 5:22) thus making Jesus a sinner, shorten his name to Jesus rather than Jesus Christ helping to teach the old heresy of the Gnostics or remove the word Lord out of the repenting thief' mouth and say Jesus instead (Adoptionism), removing firstborn from Matt. 1:25 (virgin birth), and on and on it goes.

Thank you for the reply. It would do you well not to refer to the soul and spirit as immortal. The word mortal has to do with the body, which has not become immortal , yet. When God gave you a new body then it will become immortal. Before you were saved you had a live body and a live soul and a dead spirit. The moment you received Jesus as your Saviour, your spirit was made alive. John 3 6, That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7, Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The Holy Spirit dwells in you, in your spirit, this is the being second birth. And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body. Rom 8:23 Your redemption of the body has yet to happen-----it is waiting.. I do not know how much clearer I can. Be a man saved or lost he has an eternal soul not immortal. This soul goes to either heaven or hell. A body does not go to hell it rots. The JW want to make the soul and body the same and they go to the grave. Hell is the grave to them, that is why you must not use the term immortal when referring to the soul and spirit. Thank you. Let us go back to the original thread.

It is true many have used Word and word interchangeably and I have most likely violated it myself. Regardless, we should try to adhere to the usage as in Writ, Just like the usage of immortal soul, when mortal hath to due with the flesh (1Cor. 15:53-54) and not the soul. But this is a side issue the main question is final authority, which has yet to be answered. This was the main point of the thread (read prior comments) on who decides as in Luke 2:33. I do not want something that is reliable, but infallible. Do I have this or do I not. I do not want a Bible that contains the truth, but is the truth. If I have more than one authority I have no final authority and if I judge, that makes me the final authority.

First let us clear the air. The terms you are using the Word of God and God’s Word are unscriptural, when referring to the Bible or God’s mouth as in thus saith the Lord or preaching It is always a small w. The term Word of God (Rev. 19:13) is Jesus Christ. And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:13 and when the it is capitalizes as in Word it also refers to His person. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1 The Word of life (1John 1:1) compare to Go, stand and speak in the temple to the people all the words of this life. Act 5:20 I hold the word or words of God in my hand, I do not have Jesus sitting in my hand. He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God. John 8:47. I could go on, but enough said about the Word and the word. Things that are different are not the same. But while they are different they are very similar. They both are eternal, truthful, holy, pure and are connected to the saving of the soul. My Bible does not contain the words of God, it is the word of God. I do not prefer it over the rest because it contains more of the words of God. When you say this then which parts are not the words of God. Is it 80% pure, 90% pure or what. My question on final authority has yet to be answered and I do not expect it to be.

Dear Brother. I was not addressing you, but if the shoe fits wear it for there are others that wear the same shoe. As far as Luke 2:48-49, what does it say.? 48, And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing.49, And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? The Writ always follows the same pattern 1st the natural then the spiritual. I am sure that Jesus did not address Joseph as HEY YOU, that would of went over well with his half brothers and sisters Mark 6:3. So what did Jesus do (God Manifested in the flesh)? And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart. Luke 2:51 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Phi 2:7 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; Heb 5:8 He allowed Himself to obey Joseph, here was the Creator obeying the creature. Luke is not writing as a member of the family unit and knew who Jesus was and who Joseph was. When Jesus spoke verse 49, They did not know what he meant. And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. Luke 2:50 But this is not the main point the main point is authority, final authority. If the NIV says father and the KJV says Joseph and you judge between them as well as other passages, you become the final authority. We KJV believer never have to judge, it has already judged, we are subject to it in all matters of faith and practice. What ever it says goes, PERIOD . That is the issue which you answered not.

You are naive if you think that the devil not after the only defensive weapon a Christian has. If he can take our sword and turn it into a butter knife, he will. The first time the serpent talked a human being the issue over what God said. Gen3 here what God said is distorted. The word freely is left out and touch it is added. This is the pattern of the newer LIBELS . When Jesus was tempted what do you read “it is written”. And Satan misquotes the verse. And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Mat 4:6 Psa. 91:11, For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. 12, They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. If you have more than one authority, then you have no final authority and if you decide then you become the Final Authority. I have submitted myself to the KJV as my final authority. If one translation says father and one says Joseph and I choose the one I want then I judge and become the final authority. We Bible Believing Believers have submitted ourselves to one authority, therefore we NEVER pick and choose. Our final authority is in our hands. Is Acts 8:37 the words of God or not? We BBB’S do not judge, this judgment the BOOK of books has already made the final judgment for us. In closing if you just USE the KJV you are not a Bible Believer! We BBB’S believe it is infallible, preserved love letter for the English speaking people by God’s provenance. We cry over it, pray over it, repent because of it, rejoice over it, kiss it’s cover just like a soldier would in a fox hole over a love letter from his loving wife. And because we have the real thing we use it in our ministries or personal life’s. It personally hath comforted me over the death of 3 children, has brought me back when I fall and hath given me adoption papers. When I used to teach adults I has a potty chair, shaped like a toilet (lid and all) in the class room full of the newer Libel and during the teaching at times I would would open up it’s lid and say let us see these libels have to say.

Luke 2;33 Is enough for me, if Joseph is Jesus father, then I will see you in hell.