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OlBrotherDC

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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from Alan in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I would also like to take a second to say, even though we disagree on some things, I really appreciate everyone taking the time to have this conversation. I hope God blesses you. 
     
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from SureWord in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I would not use the word "saved" to refer to OT believers before the cross. I do believe however that they were "justified" meaning that they would be "saved" when Christ completed the finished work that God started before the foundation of the world on the cross providing a way for us to be reconciled to Him. I believe the scriptures teach that they were in a place called Abraham's Bosom awaiting the time when they would be "saved". I understand that my position is not the most popular position today. However, I do think if you hold to covenant theology which you yourself have claimed to do, (DaChaser, not Pastor Scott 😂)you will have serious flaws in your theology when you get to James chapter 2. Calvinists are quick to claim salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone, which I agree is the only thing that can save a man in the church age and I have put my faith in this. The problem that I personally see is when you try and apply this to all of the other dispensations. I think I probably have an idea of your view, but I would love to hear your opinion on James 2:21-22. Lest anyone think that I don't believe everyone has to be saved by Christ alone, I do.  I simply think that they were "justified" before Christ by faith in Gods revelation to them "and their obedience to Gods specific commands to them" not to be confused with works to righteousness such as keeping the law. I believe once they were justified, they had avoided hell, and would enter into Abraham's Bosom, or Paradise, until the blood of Christ redeemed them. 
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from PastorMatt in Salvation Before Christ?   
    After reading your previous posts regarding Calvinism, I would expect nothing less from you! 😂
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from mbkjpreacher in Where did Jesus go when he died, hell burning with fire or paradise?   
    According to the conversation with the thief on the cross he went to Paradise. 
    39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
    40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
    41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
    42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
    43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
    Luke 23:39-43
     
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to Kleptes in Where did Jesus go when he died, hell burning with fire or paradise?   
    I agree SureWord. 
    Luke 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
    Luke  23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
    Ephesians 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 
    Ephesians 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
    Ephesians 4:9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
    Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
    1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
    1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
    1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
     
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to Ukulelemike in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    There is a man named William Schnobelen, (pronounced "Shneblin"), He was a high-degree Mason in the European rite, which goes to I believe level 99. He was also a practicing witch. He did a lot of very crazy, almost fake-sounding stuff, but he seems extremely sincere-practiced vampirism, and was ordained a black bishop in the Catholic church.  He got out of it all, actually, through joining the Mormons, but as he was seeking truth, he was drawn to the KJB Bible over their other books, and was actually kicked out because it was all he would read and teach from. He got saved and left it all behind.
    Sadly, he seems to have wandered a bit into some error, as he seems to have gone into the Hebrew Roots movement, but I DO believe him to be saved. 
     
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from Ukulelemike in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    I believe Joseph Smith was a Mason, and was influenced strongly by Masonic ceremonies in creating the “Temple Initiation” in the LDS church. There are hidden camera videos of these initiations on YouTube and they Certainly resemble masonry. There is also a video from a series giving the LDS stance on many topics, one of which is freemasonry, where the church takes the stance that it is “completely compatible with the LDS church, since they believe their is truth everywhere”. 
     
    I considered freemasonry for many years before I was saved. A mason is always on a quest for “more light”. What led me away was Psalm 27:1
    “The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?”
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    the key phrase I this situation being, the LORD is MY LIGHT. 
     
    also, the writings from Albert Pike In his book Morals and Dogma about Lucifer pretty much told me all I needed to know, even as a weak Christian doctrinally speaking, I could tell that wasn’t of God. 
     
    I think more preachers should preach against it, in line with Psalm 27 again, don’t be scared of the Masons, your light is brighter. 
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to SureWord in Canon of Scripture.   
    Well, my post must have been deleted I guess or was never posted to begin with.
    In a nutshell, those kind of questions are usually someone (Satan?) trying to deter you from the gospel message but maybe not always. I gave an example of someone I work with that brought up the translations issue when I tried witnessing to them.
    So my first thought would be that the "Who" and "How" was to get me off the gospel message. I would tell them I'll try to answer his questions afterward.
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to SureWord in MacArthur   
    By staying away from the Greek which is used many times as a backdoor attempt to correct or change what the KJV says. "Foreknow" and "Foreordained" are not the same words in the English language. Not even the same meanings in the roots of the English words. You can know someone beforehand but not ordain them to anything beforehand.
    Even so, our predestination has to do with those that God knows will receive his Son as their Savior will be someday be changed (conformed) into the image of his Son. It has nothing to to with a predestination or foreordaination to being saved.
     
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to DaChaser in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    You are indeed correct about Joseph Smith, and that right there should make it clear that no Christian should be involved in free masonry!
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to DoctorDaveT in Where did Jesus go when he died, hell burning with fire or paradise?   
    This question requires a discussion of sheol/hades and what happened following the crucifixion. [Sorry of this post seems long; trust me, I'm condensing to get to this....]
    Prior to the crucifixion, sheol (Heb word from OT)/hades (Greek word, equivalent to sheol from NT) was the place of the departed. Jesus describes this place with a great gulf fixed between the righteous ("Paradise") and wicked side ("Hell") in the story of Lazarus in Luke 16. Immediately following the crucifixion, Jesus went into sheol and "lead captivity captive" (Eph 4:8-10). This is when Jesus took "Paradise" out of sheol and all of the righteous were taken to Heaven, God's abode. Sheol is now only the place of the departed damned. Someday, sheol will be emptied out, never to be repopulated. At that day, all of those inhabitants will stand at the Great White Throne Judgment, and will be cast eternally into the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:11-15). With that in mind, did Jesus burn in Hell?
    Was His death on the cross enough to purchase eternal redemption? Heb 9 says "yes." Did He have to burn in hell for our redemption? Heb 9 suggests "no." Was He in hell, preaching to spirits in prison? IPe 3:19 says "yes" (if "prison" means "hell") But with the above understanding of hell/sheol, preaching in hell/sheol doesn't require fire. While I recognize we may not all agree with this answer, No, Jesus didn't (nor did He have to) burn in Hell. Leading captivity captive, He went to Paradise.
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from PastorMatt in Did Curtis Hutson teach that Repentance is a work like Steven Anderson?   
    Curtis Hutson, as a Bible believing Christian, knew that his place in Heaven was secured by repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ and the blood He shed for our sins when He died on the cross of Calvary. Brother Smith is with the Lord Jesus Christ right now, but do you know, with 100% assurance, from God's Word, that you will be with Jesus when you die? 
    This came from www.earnestlycontending.com/KT/bios/curtishutson.html 
    Judging from the word repentance being used in this, either himself or the person who wrote it does not believe that repentance is a work. Take from that what you will. 😂
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from Alan in Did Curtis Hutson teach that Repentance is a work like Steven Anderson?   
    Curtis Hutson, as a Bible believing Christian, knew that his place in Heaven was secured by repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ and the blood He shed for our sins when He died on the cross of Calvary. Brother Smith is with the Lord Jesus Christ right now, but do you know, with 100% assurance, from God's Word, that you will be with Jesus when you die? 
    This came from www.earnestlycontending.com/KT/bios/curtishutson.html 
    Judging from the word repentance being used in this, either himself or the person who wrote it does not believe that repentance is a work. Take from that what you will. 😂
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to Invicta in Preterism - Phony as a Ford Corvette !   
    You have said all that before.
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from SureWord in Where did Jesus go when he died, hell burning with fire or paradise?   
    According to the conversation with the thief on the cross he went to Paradise. 
    39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.
    40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
    41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
    42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
    43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
    Luke 23:39-43
     
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to SureWord in Did Curtis Hutson teach that Repentance is a work like Steven Anderson?   
    I highly doubt it. If anything Curtis Hutson leaned towards "easy believism" for a lack of a better term.
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to SureWord in Salvation Before Christ?   
    Yes, I know. I wasn't saying you were saying, lol. I just put that in there so in case anyone else who may read it won't think I'm saying it has no application for the body of Christ.
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from SureWord in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I didn’t say it had no relevance. I said I wouldn’t pull my doctrine from it. 
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from John Young in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I would contend that Hebrews wasn't written for the Church Age as far as doctrine. 
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from SureWord in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I would contend that Hebrews wasn't written for the Church Age as far as doctrine. 
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from SureWord in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I would assume that any two people, one holding to covenant theology which I believe you do at least to an extent, (and I could be totally wrong there and I apologize if I am),  and one who holds to dispensationalism, as I do. Will have some very strong disagreements fundamentally. I do, however wish you the best and hope that God blesses you and your ministry. 
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    OlBrotherDC reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I will have to check the "bruises" tomorrow.  We will see how severe they are then . . .
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from Pastor Scott Markle in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I would also like to take a second to say, even though we disagree on some things, I really appreciate everyone taking the time to have this conversation. I hope God blesses you. 
     
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from wretched in Salvation Before Christ?   
    I do believe they received all of these things we received, I just don't believe they received it in their life on Earth in the same manner as we do. They could not be cleansed until the cross, eternal salvation wasn't finished until Jesus said, "It is Finished". John 19:30
     
    13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
    John 3:13
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    OlBrotherDC got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    I think the reason for the large number of Southern Baptist’s becoming masons is in line with what you see in the cults of today, there is just enough truth sprinkled in to convince a lukewarm Christian that it’s ok. The main story of Freemasonry, the legend of Hiram Abiff, comes from 1 Kings 7:13, verse 14 is where the “widows son” comes from, this is basically the end of the truth in the story. The rest of masonry relies on a ritual drama where Hiram of Tyre, (not King Hiram) is killed and resurrected to eternal life which sounds dangerously close to Christ. I think any Christian should be able to see that this isn’t good. However, Christians, see that the story is “based on the Bible” (very loosely) and accept what is told to them, rather than praying and studying for themselves. 
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