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What? Who do they think they are? Wall Street investors and hedge fund managers.

"Jaws" (Richard Kiel) from the James Bond movies was born again and even became an evangelist. I remember someone telling me he came to his church to preach. 

I see no problem with a church being part of a convention or association but also am aware that these associations usually go bad over time. Just like about everything else. They follow the Man, Movement, Machine, Monument law.

I also disagree that a pastor in a totally autonomous church usually becomes a dictator. From my experience members will hijack the church from the pastor more often than the pastor becoming a dictator.

The pastor probably invested in Pfizer or Moderns. When someone flip-flops it's almost always because money was involved or someone has something on him.

They can't get or keep members especially among young folks so they have turned to entertainment.

"Rachel" Levine wants to make Prude Summer now.

On 6/23/2023 at 8:25 PM, Jim_Alaska said:

That agenda is being pushed by the homosexual community, not all Liberals are that way @TheGloryLand

Every Liberal I know supports this no sense 100%.

The guy has a classic Neo-Nazi haircut. 

Just when you think you've heard it all.

Interesting that most of them are New England states. My first thought was because of the rampant Ivy League liberalism.

Alaska could be because of the large male population there. Single males are probably less likely to go to church.

Hawaii, I'm not sure but I have a feeling it may be hard to start a church there because of cultural reasons.  

28 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

A strong relationship with the police never hurts, and I have to disagree that it doesn't mean anything. Without cooperation from law enforcement a church could have a very rough time. My b-i-l works security at a big SBC church and crime in that area of town is rampant. With the presence of law enforcement, around that eight block radius is far less than what it is when they are not there.

I'm talking about in a time of a deadly emergency. Some churches are out far from police and the time it would take to get there it's better to be prepared ahead of time. I remember a State Trooper, who attended a church I did, warning us that at times, depending on where they were in the county and how many were on duty, it could take them 45 minutes to get to a call.

I know some of the brethren are dead set against self defense but not me.

Having a strong relationship with police doesn't mean a thing. I'm sure that school in Uvalde, TX had one.

I conceal carry but I don't advertise about it. I'm sure there are other men in church who do also.

It says he's attacked black people, Jews and Muslims. I doubt it. Other than calling them sinners like everyone else.

I have no problem with pastors touching on politics from the pulpit as long as it doesn't become a bully pulpit or outright campaigning for someone.  I see nothing wrong with preaching about modern social and political issues in the light of scripture.

20 hours ago, 360watt said:

You guys should see the NZ baptist church teachings.

Mainly charismatic or Pentecostal, often teach eternal salvation is undoable, most often the sermons are topical rather than scriptural. 

There is a big congregation in a church in my city that used to be Spreydon Baptist church, we called them 'Sprayed on' baptist church.

They may as well just be vineyard or new life churches, there isn't much distinctively Baptist about them

 

I once visited a Charismatic Baptist church here in America. One of the most bizarre experiences ever. Especially seeing teenagers making out in the pews during the "contemporary worship music" i.e. rock concert.

Looks like they went through with it. Apparently, the word "Southern" is associated with slavery. The country has gone mad.

11 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

I doubt it, their members are weak doctrinally, or else they would not be a part of any convention. They will follow the piper as they always have.

I've been to a Southern Baptist church one time and it was a carnal mess. The singing droned on for what it seemed like two hours of contemporary music singing the same chorus over and over until you fell into a trance. Then the "lesson" from a milquetoast version of the word of God. I can't remember which but I couldn't follow along. I'm sure there are plenty of good Christians who lov God and live good lives (I liked the pastor) in that church but for me personally, I'm wretched and hard so I need some old time religion.

They will probably lose a lot of members over this. 

Yes, but in my opinion only if they have no idea what the Dems of today represent or they have no idea what the bible teaches outside of a few Sermon on the Mount verses. Many people, particularly older folks, still think the Democrat party is the party of FDR or John Kennedy. Those days are long gone.

Maybe lazy conservatives and Christians will go out and vote in ALL elections now. They took over the State Assembly here in Virginia because Republicans did not show up to vote (some didn't even know elections were going on) while Bloomberg was literally busing Democrat voters to the polls. 

A Christian camp I spent time at as a young man had a week of tent meetings one year. Some great memories and great preaching. We would get pretty loud too and in that valley it really echoed. Setting up the tent was a real challenge though.