Bouncing Bill

59 minutes ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

Well,  so far,   no shot (from ama, cdc, fda, usa, big farma)  has proven as effective as doing nothing,  so you have a null statement.

The shots the doctors give so far,  are dangerous,  and no one who knows what happens gets one.

Starting sin is with trusting the doctors - thus incurring God's Own curse upon themselves thereby.

Totally untrue. If it were true 99% of those hospitalized with COVID were not be the unvaccinated. But over 99% are unvaccinated. 

The earth is very old.

The Bible is not meant and never was meant to be a science book.

It is interesting to me that many who think the shot that has proven effective is dangerous are trusting and taking an untested, unproven animal deworming drug. 

Kiyo Sato: From a WWII Japanese Internment Camp to a Life of Service

By Connie Goldsmith and Kiyo Sato

Red Tape Holds Up New Bridges

14 hours ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

How did Noah and those before or with Noah know the difference between clean and unclean animals etc ?   This was some number of years before Moses was even born yet, right ? 

Why did Peter say his dream was about unclean gentiles ? 

They probably didn't know and not knowing didn't care. 

Thanks for an excellent post. I you look up Panjshir Valley on Google Earth it is easy to see why it is such a difficult area to invade. I remember reading how a Russian tank convey entered the area. When it reached a point, on the narrow road with a steep drop off one side and the cliff of the mountain on the other side the defenders used Stinger missiles. They knocked out the last tank and then the first. This trapped the other tanks. There was no way to go forward or retreat. The defenders then picked off all the other tanks. A disaster for the Russians.

If you are yearning for the good old days, just turn off the air conditioning.

58 minutes ago, SureWord said:

Why were we there?

1) To funnel tax payer money to the industrial military complex, defense contractors and other war profiteers 

2) Protect the opium fields for Big Pharma and other drug runners within the Deep State and DC. The Taliban was burning the fields down.

3) To launder money to only God knows who. I'm sure some offshore accounts have grown exponentially.

4) To maintain control of the lithium deposits. Although, this one could be debated since we sold our lithium mines out West to the Chinese which makes no sense at all unless there were a certain group of Elites invested in the Afghanistan mines. Protect the assets.

5) Give our brass and troops some real time war training and experience.

6) To find Osama bin Laden although it was probably clear within a year he wasn't in Afghanistan.

 

Oh, please. 

2 minutes ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

May 6 you posted this.   Have you discovered since then that the pandemic is a world wide fraud and deceptions ?   

How many members or people have to die from the vax before people realize it is exceedingly more dangerous than doing nothing ?   Will those who trust government and trust doctors and trust pharmacy have any chance of repenting ?  The world for the most part will never repent, and not even will they turn to God for help.  They are doomed as written in Scripture.

However,  The Good News,  Salvation by Faith , Trusting Jesus,  may still be found by a few ?

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@E MoralesPosted OP in another thread: How many members need to get sick or die before a church will close? I am not picking on one church, but all churches. This is a big problem, churches are letting their guards down. They were taking safety in the beginning but got tired. Many are not even using mask. Even keeping secret to the members those that are infected, no panic, no isolation period. Be safe, my brother and sisters in Christ. Sometimes money gets into the way, this should not be.   

 

"Sometimes money gets into the way?"!?    Remember love of money is the root of all evil,  and is the reason for the pandemic as the ones in power seek population control and governmental/ military/ social control.

Fake news.

1 minute ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

Medical idolatry (google it).    You (according to all your posts for months) have been deceived by the unrighteous idolators utterly and completely, thus , by definition,  you cannot recognize idolatry at all,  nor obtain nor know any truth in Scripture,  unless by a miracle God Grants Repentance and sets you free.  He is also Well Able to heal ocd,  His Way (He chooses).  Freedom from idolatry and from the enemy's deception spiritually and physically is not given to most people on earth, because they blatantly,  willingly or wittingly or unwillingly and unwittingly, refuse to turn to God and to trust Him.

Please answer my questions.

3 minutes ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

"No idolatry"

That's a commandment,  not a suggestion.  Breaking the commandment results in death .

The Creator Created all things.   He Says He directs everything - He is Sovereign over civilization, geology, change,

and the idolators who serve other gods bow down to mankind's historians (and other carnal sources) who serve other gods falsely.

The Creator not only directs everything,   He does so "for the good" of those who are not idolators.  For those who Love and Obey God and Are Called According to His Purpose and Plan.

 

I have no idea what you mean by idolatry.

I would appreciate your answering my questions.

4 minutes ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

Are you like bb?   From his posts,  he put his trust in the government, ama, and doctors .

Possibly also in his church ?    Thus,   he has been led to the path of destruction for decades.  He even did stuff with the books of the idolators for decades (indexed them I think he posted).

So he believes and put his trust in the enemy.   Do you ?

Vaccines do not make the virus stronger. That is incorrect myth. People going unvaccinated allows viruses to become stronger and mutate into variants that may be worse than the originals. 

41 minutes ago, SureWord said:

We were never there to defeat them.

Then why in the world were we there.

Rudyard Kipling wrote in his poem The Naulahkaabout about Afghanistan and the East:

Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle the Aryan
     brown,
For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the
     Christian down;
And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of
      the  late  deceased,
And the epitaph drear:  "A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the
       East."

”Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without notice.”

Historian Will Durant

50 minutes ago, E Morales said:

Some times it’s not the pastor, it’s the elders and deacons. Just saying, they think they own the church because that  member has been there 30 years. They put pressure on the pastor to do things their ways. Or else

You are correct. Dictatorship can occur in both directions. 

The Baptist church I attend went to a consensus program in our business meetings. A majority cannot rule. We do not vote. We simply say, "Is there a consensus?"  So far it has worked well. 

Ours is a very lay-led church and that has worked well also. And during worship it is not just adults who are included. We used kids for various tasks, such as taking up the offering and when older reading scripture. 

Afghanistan is not a country in the way we think of countries. It is a geographical area comprised of a number of tribes. Many of the tribes do not like the other tribes. Historically when there is no outside armies to fight they fight each other. We have seen that already beginning. The Panjshir Valley is located just over 30 miles from Kabul. The Soviets could not take it in the 1980's. The Taliban could not take it in the 1990's. I doubt that we even tried. It is long narrow complex of valleys with only one narrow road entering through a narrow entrance. There will be no peace in Afghanistan. Below is an interesting article:

Several thousand anti-Taliban fighters are reported to be holding out against the Taliban in a remote valley with a narrow entrance - little more than 30 miles or so from the capital Kabul.

It's not the first time the dramatic and imposing Panjshir Valley has been a flashpoint in Afghanistan's recent turbulent history - having been a stronghold against Soviet forces in the 1980s, and the Taliban in the '90s.

The group holding out there now - the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan (NRF) - recently reminded the world of the valley's strength.

"The Red Army, with its might, was unable to defeat us... And the Taliban also 25 years ago... they tried to take over the valley and they failed, they faced a crushing defeat," Ali Nazary, the NRF's head of foreign relations, told the BBC.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghanistan-undefeated-valley-hour-kabul-233804699.html

Plagiarism would bother me.

If he is also a wanna be dictator, that would bother me more. 

9 hours ago, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

=======================  It's too late to get the possible cost down ===================

 

The fake pandemic has caused a financial crises larger than ever conceived of even in the world before 1700. (except the Creator Knew it was going to be foisted on the world; He Knew even before He Created the world).

 

 

Martyr, 

I am curious. Do you go to a doctor if you are not well or for an annual checkup?

Do you take any prescription medications?

Have you ever had surgery?

10 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

Does anyone know if you need to be vaccinated to work in the white house

The last I read was the White House is considering making it a requirement for all federal employees to be vaccinated. So, my guess is that to work in the White House a person does not have to be vaccinated. They may have to take weekly tests. Where I live the unvaccinated staff have to take weekly tests. 

Other large companies could soon be following Delta Air Lines (DAL) down the runway in charging workers who don't get vaccinated for COVID-19, says the CEO of one of the largest payrolls and HR services companies. 

Paychex CEO Marty Mucci tells Yahoo Finance Live companies he talks with are actively discussing whether to change their health care premiums, offering different versions for those people who are unvaccinated. It is also something Mucci is debating himself within his own company. Mucci has been CEO of Paychex for nearly 10 years. 

"We are looking at it because the cost is very high. You can talk about whether to mandate the vaccinations or not for your employees. You need to be able to say there are consequences. There are costs that come with not being vaccinated. I think Delta made the comment that the average hospital stay for someone not vaccinated is like $50,000. You don't want to spread that to all of your employees. So you have to find ways — just like smoking and non-smoking — ways to try to get the possible cost as fair as you can to your employees to keep your rates down for health insurance," Mucci explained. 

https://www.aol.com/finance/delta-air-lines-could-1st-164732291.html

"Carrier  War: World War II" by Stephen Sears.

A concisely written American Heritage book. Well written with human interest events included. 

I fondly remember Art Linkletter's radio program. He always finished with five minutes or so asking kids questions. One of his favorite questions was, "What did your mother tell you not to tell today." He got wonderful, funny answers, ones the probably embarrassed many mothers.

7 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Oh, the name of the book wouldn't turn me off. I have an African American great niece, and there are others in my family who are AA. I'm from a very diverse family...Jewish, AA, American Indian, Irish, Spanish, and Italian. My adoptive father's family was from Germany way back in the 1500's and 1600s. I used to go to a predominantly black church in Peoria for a few months in the 80s.

The author did not like the title, but he had no control over that aspect of the book. Reggie is an African American who earned his Ph.D. at Fuller Theological Seminary. I indexed the book for him. At the Baptist church in Harlem was where Bonhoeffer was introduced to the 'suffering Jesus' and how an oppressed people respond to Him. This turned Bonhoeffer's theology, seemingly, 180 degrees. The book, The Cost of Discipleship, was published in 1937. I believe Bonhoeffer's statement "Salvation is free, but discipleship will cost you your life." When he wrote that I do not know if he was thinking of our physical life or our personal, selfish life. I tend to think the latter. For Bonhoeffer it turned out to be both, personal and physical life. 

Another line that shook me and influenced my life is:

Only he who believes is obedient and only he who is obedient believes.

4 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

Bonhoeffer has a lot of good material. I'll have to agree with you on that, BB. I haven't read a full book from him, just excerpts, but I like most of what I've read.

BT, "The Cost of Discipleship" had a big impact on my life as a Christian. 

In 1930 he spent a year studying at the Union Theological Seminary in New York City. During that year he attended the Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. It was there he was introduced to the concepts that led him to see the rising Hitler as an evil to be opposed. There is an excellent book on this era of his life by Reggie Williams.  Don't let the title put you off. The publisher insisted on the title which is "Bonhoeffer's Black Jesus." The book explains how Bonhoeffer's theology was influenced by the year he attended the Abyssinian Baptist Church which led to his returning to Germany and opposing Hitler.