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I believe the idea that repentance of sin is a work of quitting from sin is of Pentecostal origin. I have read an article that Curtis defined repentance of sin as to quit from sin, whereas the man prior to him who led the Sword of the Lord believes in repentance of sin as requisite of salvation. So it was Hyles and Curtis where the idea evolved and they categorized repentance and repentance of sin as two different thing, until Steven Anderson discovered and interpreted Jonah 3: 10 that God saw their works that it is repentance of sin, though the passage does no really say that. If you
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I think the belief that there is no more repentance for salvation and the belief that it requires work to be saved are both extremely wrong and unbiblical. Romans chapter 4 and James chapter two speaks of justification by works before men, and justification by faith before God. Works are fruits or manifestations of repentance and faith, yet true faith can exist even before works exists, yet salvation is based on faith (repentance implied) not based on works. But for those who believe that salvation is by faith without repentance is actually they only have intellectual belief.
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mbkjpreacher reacted to an answer to a question: Was there any Baptist who interpreted Jonah 3: 10 that repentance of sin is a work prior to Steven Anderson?
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This statement of yours is agreeable with me, " Furthermore, I would contend that in the matter of repentance for salvation specifically, the change of decision is NOT the decision to quit sinning, but IS precisely the decision to place faith in the Savior from sin and condemnation.". I may rephrase this statement based on my understanding that repentance is a change of mind from sin (after being convicted of sin and condemnation) to trust in Jesus as Savior. Repentance from sin is never work, or meant as quitting from sin. The Andersonites are inclined to believe in different plan of
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Alan reacted to an answer to a question: Was there any Baptist who interpreted Jonah 3: 10 that repentance of sin is a work prior to Steven Anderson?
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There seems to be an influence in his doctrine. Calvinists believe that the sinner cannot repent and believe so they placed repentance and faith after salvation. Anderson believes that man cannot repent of sin without work so he placed repentance of sin after salvation. The truth is that repentance of sin is not work, and work is the result of repentance (of sin) and faith.
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mbkjpreacher reacted to an answer to a question: Was there any Baptist who interpreted Jonah 3: 10 that repentance of sin is a work prior to Steven Anderson?
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I think the reason why they interpreted "Turning from sinful behavior" is a work because they interpreted the word TURNING as a work or effort to stop sinning. If TURNING FROM INIQUITY is a work then the purpose of preaching the gospel which is to TURN THEM FROM INIQUITY is to make them work to be saved. But that is contradictory to the whole teaching of the Bible. Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Unto you first God, having raised up his
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It seems that there is no Baptist preacher in the history of Baptists that interprets Jonah 3: 10 that repentance of sin is a work. Steven Anderson must have been the first person to interpret such verse to support the idea that repentance of sin is work. Early Baptist preachers never preach and interpret Jonah 3: 10 as repentance of sin is work. There is no clear statement where the passage say that God saw that repentance of sin is a work, therefore it is only an interpretation of Steven Anderson which has influenced so many preachers.
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What do you think of the Illustration below, why would the word repentance change its meaning if it is about sin, whereas if it is about writing a letter, still it does not mean that the effort of writing is the repentance. Why is it that when it is about sin, the repentance is not only a change of mind but it becomes a work or effort?
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According to the Andersonites, (followers of Anderson) that there is no change of mind and heart from sin when the sinner receives Christ by faith. There is no feeling of being sorry about sin and that means he still is so much in love with sin and hates God, no change of mind and heart. According to them, repentance is not a change of mind and attitude toward sin, but that the sinner just believe in God although he is still in love with sin. According to them, no emotion needed to trust Christ, no feeling of being sorry about sin. What do you think?
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yeganesorani reacted to an answer to a question: For those who believe that repentance of sin is a work, do you believe that the prodigal son worked hard to make repentance of sin?
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wretched reacted to an answer to a question: Was the preaching of Jonah for physical salvation only?
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wretched reacted to an answer to a question: Was the preaching of Jonah for physical salvation only?
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Was the preaching of Jonah for physical salvation only?
mbkjpreacher replied to mbkjpreacher's question in Questions for Baptists
If the father saw his eldest son's work in the field that he changed his mind from disobedience, it would not mean that the repentance from disobedience is the work. In fact he repented first before he went to work, and the word repented is past tense. But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard. He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went. (Matthew 21:28-29) -
mbkjpreacher reacted to an answer to a question: Was the preaching of Jonah for physical salvation only?
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Was the preaching of Jonah for physical salvation only?
mbkjpreacher replied to mbkjpreacher's question in Questions for Baptists
Many have misunderstood Jonah 3: 10 they made this verse as the basis for repentance of sin as work. And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. (Jonah 3:10) Here are some similar statements and they do not change the meaning of repentance which is change of mind into repentance of sin as work. If you saw your child's actions that he changed his mind from playing in the mud. The change of mind is not the action rather the actions is the result of the -
mbkjpreacher reacted to an answer to a question: What does "Winning Christ" in Philippians 3: 8 mean?
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mbkjpreacher reacted to an answer to a question: What does "Winning Christ" in Philippians 3: 8 mean?
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Grace abounds. Is Isaiah 55:7 speaking of the abundance of grace and forgiveness of God? Those Andersonites and those who believe that repentance of sins is work will try to twist this passage to mean that this abundance of forgiveness is offered only to Israel and that it is not spiritual salvation but that it is physical salvation. The question is, are there people who received God's mercy and abundant pardon that will not be saved spiritually but only physically??? Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will hav
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What does "Winning Christ" in Philippians 3: 8 mean?
mbkjpreacher posted a question in Questions for Baptists
Is it about salvation or about winning God's approval?