Hey everyone! I know I’m about 10 years late, I just discovered this website and hope you’re all doing well! I know there can seem to be confusion in Hebrews 6:4-6, but thank God that He can not cause confusion in His Word! I think these verses are a perfect example of Judas Iscariot. We have to remember that Jesus gave power and authority to all his disciples, including Judas, and Jesus knew that Judas would never be saved but to fulfill the Scriptures as Judas being the son of perdition. We know that Jesus Christ was not the cause of Judas’ sin or evil doing, we believe full well that Judas brought these things upon himself alone. Judas walked with Jesus and His other disciples and Judas never had a change of heart even though the Lord gave him authority and holy power to cast out demons and heal the sick. Judas clearly had the power of the Holy Spirit working through him, but this does not mean Judas was born again or even saved. A genuine Christian, truly born of the Holy Spirit can not renounce their faith in Christ or fall away. If someone did fall away then it shows they were never saved, sealed by the Holy Spirit to begin with. The verse says that they were made partakers of the Holy Spirit, but never sealed by Him. Being a partaker is not the same as being sealed by the Holy Spirit of the true Living God. We shouldn’t forget, me included, that God is All Powerful and All Knowing that He can use whoever He wants to spread His kingdom, whether the person is saved or not. Yes, even God uses unsaved people to do His perfect will. I use to freak out every time I read this verse as well and would question my motives, which is not a bad thing at all, but we got to put these verses into context and look at examples in the Bible to confirm these truths. We know God is not the Author of confusion nor evil, but that His holy will is to be done, I’m sure we can all agree on that. It would never make sense for someone to claim to be a Christian and then renounce Christ as a conscious and public decision. That shows right there who they truly are, apostates, not Christians. Jesus said that a good tree can not produce bad fruit and a bad tree can not produce good fruit (Matthew 7:17-18). Someone who is sealed with the Holy Spirit can not renounce Christ. Someone who was never saved to begin with does not even have Christ in Him. John the apostle said that though they went out from us they were never really of us. If they were of us they would have stayed (1 John 2:19). That there says it all. As Christians we need to expect persecutions and tribulations. Those who were easily discouraged and renounced Christ for that reason did not have genuine repentance or even the faith as small as a mustard seed. They probably only came to Christ for the wrong reasons like having an ‘easy’ life, and not doing it because they came to the realization of their sins. Sure they heard the Word with joy (probably not true joy) but it doesn’t mean they were letting it sink into their hearts to take root. And still God is mighty to save and soften their hearts but they must respond to Him with child like faith. Having a life with Christ truly is 100% better than living a life with out Him and even if life gets hard we know One who is faithful and we can ask our Heavenly Father to help us in Jesus’ Name and He will do it! In a sense, life is hard in Christ but it is easier to have Him around even when life hits you hard. A true Christian will never in their hearts want to renounce Christ because they know, we know, He is the Way, Truth, and the Life as He declares with Truth. I could be wrong, but these verses might be talking about false teachers really. Thanks for having me share my thoughts and I’m glad to have read your responses as well! God bless you all!