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  1. The larger churches have many members who are hunters and have concealed weapon permits. Everything should be done legally. Concealed registered weapons and security is the way I believe is best.  On my website, I have a picture of Knights that are fighting on horses and a verse that says, everybody loves a warrior when the enemy is at the gate. this applies also to churches, if a member can prevent a crazy person from causing harm (life-threatening) to their loved ones and members, this is good.This is a dangerous position to be in, but if we kill to save ourselves, this is not a sin. 😇

  2. 23 hours ago, TheGloryLand said:

    Thank you for replying. There’s a time for fellowship, time for eating and time for just sitting back and relaxing, but when we go to the worship part of the service, the service center is to worship, listen to the preaching, and to bring our tithe and offering. All the other things are done before or after the services, not during.

    Amazing also, the church is a social club. ? this is not good.

  3. 5 hours ago, robmac68 said:

    Acts 20:9 And there sat in a window a certain young man named Eutychus, being fallen into a deep sleep: and as Paul was long preaching, he sunk down with sleep, and fell down from the third loft, and was taken up dead.

    Maybe he should of had some coffee????

    Or he stay up late the night prior watching Netflix. 

  4. 51 minutes ago, robmac68 said:

    Ruff??  Anyway, the church is a "social club".  In fact, a private social club.  Church, ekklisia, is the fellowship of the believer.  Where we come to praise, worship, learn, uplift each other, and socialize among other things.  If you study it out, the church you go today looks nothing like the 1st century churches.  We are to be in the world but not of the world.  So, while going through this life of separation but still having to work, shop, and live in this world, we at times feel beat up.  We get harassed and snubbed.  We see all the filth and injustices.  All the temptations.  Yes, we go to church to give reverence and worship to an Holy God, but don't forget it is also a blessing to us.  We should feel like we are with family.  We should feel relaxed as well as excited to walk through the doors.  I was glad when they said unto me, "let us go into the house of the Lord."   If we go and feel like we are there to sit down, shut up, don't drink your coffee and pay attention, what blessing is that?  I can get that at a safety meeting at work.  If the church is so uptight. we might as well go back to puritan times where the women and kids sat on one side and the men on the other.  And don't dare smile or you will be kicked out for being irreverent or having a demon.  Remember, Jesus fed the 5000.  Where were they?  He was preaching/teaching.  Some were believers.  It was "church".  You are putting too much stock in the brick and mortar building that is called church.

    Thank you for replying. There’s a time for fellowship, time for eating and time for just sitting back and relaxing, but when we go to the worship part of the service, the service center is to worship, listen to the preaching, and to bring our tithe and offering. All the other things are done before or after the services, not during.

  5. 2 hours ago, heartstrings said:

    The SBC has it's liberals and even heresy infecting their circles, such as Calvinism, just like IFB churches do. Calvinism is very heretical if you ask me and I can't, for the life of me, comprehend why either a SBC church or IFB one would associate with such who teach it.  But just like IFB churches can choose not to affiliate or associate with certain churches with teach false doctrine(and many do have networks of churches they associate with), the SBC can do things like "kicking out" churches with women "preachers". And an SBC affiliated church can leave the SBC any time it wants to. An example, by contrast, I know of a little country Methodist church we used to visit in our area (to play music) which recently pulled out of the United Methodist organization; the organization took their church building, bank accounts and all other assets. I know of an Assembly of God church which went through basically the same thing. But I'd be willing to bet my pastor would pull out of the SBC if they condoned women preachers, homosexual preachers, or any other junk like that, and we wouldn't lose our church assets for doing it. How is that not actually independent?

    I think in the future preachers will start giving up and donate their facilities to others church ministry. That will continue, then eventually selling out, and becoming water down religions. United faiths for Christ. This sounds like a good name for one of these weak churches.

  6. 9 minutes ago, Salyan said:

    I would be curious what the original salaries were. Our pastor emeritus had a very low salary, with rare increases. When his son took over, he had a mortgage to consider that required us starting him off at a higher salary. (Not an egregious mortgage, very appropriate and even insufficient for the size of his family).  Some salary increases could just be bringing pastors up to a living wage. A lot of churches don't necessarily provide benefits or retirement packages, so salaries (in the corporate world) would generally be larger to account for self-payment of those.

    That study also says the scope of the study grew over the years. I wonder if they adjusted the 1996 salary study with numbers from the 23 additional conventions that participated this year? Otherwise you could be comparing apples to oranges with different states/costs of living/etc. 

    True this is a unique situation, and all situations are different. This is why I support paying a pastor well, and let him take care of his own benefits, example retirement, living  and health plan. Sometimes churches want to control the pastor, so they provide housing and pay for their taxes and some health but the church is getting into business they shouldn’t have to. The pastors, are grown men, pay them well, and let them take care of themselves. Like you and I,  plus everyone else.

  7. 3 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

    This proves nothing @TheGloryLand. In 25 years everything has increased in price. Vehicles that cost $30K  25 years ago, now cost $70K. Taking inflation into consideration, everyone's salary had to increase also.

    I found this online, 

    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (BP)–Salary increases for Southern Baptist pastors have more than doubled the rate of inflation during the past six years, according to a detailed study involving 35 state Baptist conventions throughout the nation.

    The biennial salary study began in 1996 with 12 participating state conventions. The study, coordinated by Don Spencer, director of the Kentucky Baptist Convention annuity department, grew to include 19 conventions in 2000 and 35 this year.

    Inflation has totaled 15.2 percent in the past six years, Spencer said. Among fulltime pastors, he added, the average compensation has gone up 31.5 percent during the same time.

    only in six years, try adding 25 years?

  8. 14 hours ago, SureWord said:

    They can't get or keep members especially among young folks so they have turned to entertainment.

    Also the founder’s (Members) that stool firmly on the Word, have passed away. The newer leaders are in for the money, not all. Some preachers today earn up to five times more per year than preachers 25 years ago. I don’t have the proof of this, but just check in to it. You will be surprised ?

  9. 2 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

    TGL...why are you consistently so negative about pastors, our youth, and the churches in general? God says HE will build his church on himself and that the gate's of hell would not prevail against it. 

    Thanks for sharing that verse. I believe that verse, what is kind a hard, just watching all that stuff happening around you, and there’s nothing you can do about it. I also believe, you can’t go around just thinking everything is gonna be just fine. It doesn’t matter what happens.

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