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  1. I agree with you Sir, but it does happens. I don't think pastors are doing this all the time, but some do it for more backup. to push the message out. Like for tithing, or building fund, and growth.
  2. I am not picking on anyone or am I hiding anything here. I openly mention my website http://thegloryland.com on my home page. You can join all my messages if it can be done, past and present. I never mention names to my post, of pastors or members, churches by name doing wrong. The truth does hurt, but you are correct, I did mention the world, that is in correct. I meant many people. The are many false teachers out there, even in the IBC. Why not alert other to keep your eyes open. If I say lets build are church far away, on a island to our self. Would you not blow the Wiesel?
  3. I know that some of my post can be sensitive, but Christians need to speak and preach freely. This is where the Evangelist comes into play. Where pastors cannot, or are afraid to talk about, this is called weakness. I told my wife, if I die, she can get remarried. If she cares or want to, our wife are just like are kids, they are not ours. Wife's are a gift from God. There are no wedding reunions, or sex in heaven. A man in heaven, once married for 60 years ran into to his wife he had on the earth, in heaven. She said, my love to him, he said to her. Our contract said to death do us part, our earthly contract is over... smile
  4. My post are not weird, ask any single pastor or wife. Some pastors might get jealous just thinking about it. Don’t worry be happy. : )
  5. If a young or old pastor passes away, can his wife get remarried. We know that the bible says to death do you part, so why does the world expect that she remain single, the rest of her life? Like if it is a sin to get remarried again. The same applies in some cases, for single pastors. I think it would be nice if someone comes up with dating website for single pastors, and for X Pastors wife's, looking.
  6. I remember a sweet old lady that we use to give a ride to church, rest in peace. She would put a few dollars in the offering plate, which is fine to do. But will spend over a thousand of dollars on their pet, when they got sick. I never told her anything about it, but it did go through my mine. Where ever is your heart, there nearby will follow your money.
  7. Romans 3: 10 As it is written: There is no one righteous, not even one.” Romans 3: 23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Visible Light Spectrum Romans 5: 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned. Romans 8: 13 For if you live according to the sinful nature, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord Romans 5: 8 But God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 10: 8 – 11 But what does it say? The Word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart. (that is, the Word of faith which we preach): That if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame. Romans 2: 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and long suffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance? Romans 6: 1 – 7 What should we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were, therefore, buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. If we have been united with Him like this in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection. For we know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin — because anyone who has died has been freed from sin. Romans 2: 7 To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. Romans 8: 28 – 39 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been called according to his purpose. For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified. What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but gave Him up for us all–how will He not also, along with Him, graciously give us all things? Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died–more than that, who was raised to life–is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written: For your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered. No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
  8. This is a question which is asked more frequently as people today seem to be treating their beasts more like humans, and humans more like beasts. Everyone can understand that when a beloved animal dies it is a natural reaction to feel some sorrow and anguish because of the loss. But we must not confuse emotion and human feelings, with biblical principles. On this earth, we know only in part, and so we often neglect to address the question in light of the Bible, and fail to comprehend that all living things in this world (besides man), are temporal. That includes organisms, insects, plants, reptiles, and animals. These things are a part of God’s magnificent creation, but they do not have an immortal soul. It is only the spirits of men which are immortal spirits. Emotionalism notwithstanding, the spirits of men are the only spirits which partake in the resurrection to life after death. Many professing Christians judge truth by what ‘seems’ right for God to do (in their own eyes), even forging such bonds between themselves and their beasts that they cannot even fathom a heaven which would not include their beloved animals. To hear them speak, it is almost as if they will look upon God as unrighteous if He won’t save their pet animals. It’s just part and parcel of the same arrogant ‘me mentality’ which is sweeping over most of our Churches today, and degrading the historical Church. The rebellious attitude that life is all about how I feel, or about what I want, or about how I see things. Man’s spiritual eyes should never be focused on his pets (indeed, upon himself) where he loves the creation more than the creator. His eyes should be squarely on the great Shepherd, and the commission we have been given to feed His Sheep. That should be our hope, and that is what is lacking in our Churches today. The thought of spending eternity along with our beloved pets may be a temporal comfort as we are in the flesh, but we are losing sight of where our real joy and comfort should come from. It doesn’t come from me and my relationship to my pet in heaven, or even my loved ones in heaven, but my relationship with Christ. I love pets, but I am sorry all dogs do not go to heaven. Enjoy them while you have them, When they die? it is alright to cry, for you just lost a good friend.
  9. Thanks again for replying, others cannot or will not reply, maybe because they don't think this could happen here. But if we cannot support a gay Pastor, how can we support a gay president. I don't want to put you on a spot, or we can just think about it. All sins, are sins in the bible, but homosexual sins are treated by God differently, and with anger and destruction?
  10. Why do they say that baptism started in the 17th Century, By the protestant movement, when John the Baptist, Baptized by immersion, when Christ walked on earth? Google quote: The name 'Baptist' comes from the Baptist practice of immersion in water. It was coined in the seventeenth century by opponents to the new movement but rejected by followers themselves. It wasn't until the nineteenth century that Baptists accepted the use of the label to describe themselves
  11. Why so many Christians don't like talking about politics? 1. Afraid to loose members or followers. 2. Afraid to stand for the truth, what will they think, or say of me. 3. Afraid they might close the door to a opportunity. 4. Afraid they might not look to religious, if they do talk politics. 5. Afraid to be be on the wrong side. 6. Why are you afraid to talk about politics?
  12. America ready for a LGBTQ President ? I say never, but who am I. What I can see, is the blindness all around the States. People with eyes that cannot see, and having ears, but are not able to hear. I believe that our first gay president, could be a candidate that turns against our Jewish partners, and to the State of Jerusalem. Signs of the times.
  13. E Morales

    For the Love of Money

    Most Americans are characterized for sure by two features: They love money and they are in debt. The Bible is plain regarding the love of money. “For the love of money is the root of all evil (I Tim. 6: 10). There are many attendant problems associated with the love of money (I Tim. 6: 5-11). Having said this, money is vital to and in our lives. How can one obey the command to provide for one’s own without an awareness, appreciation, and acquisition of money (I Tim. 6: 10, Eph. 6: 2). Regarding debt and money, there is a relevant command that seems to have been almost forgotten. Paul wrote thus to the Christians at Rome: “Owe no man anything, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law” (13: 8). Let us now focus more on the subject of debt under two headings. All accountable men have a debt (something owed to another). The debt is sin and sin, I submit, is universal (I Jn. 1: 7-10). Jesus taught, “And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors” (Matt. 6: 12). Commentator Albert Barnes makes some excellent comments on the thought and concept of the “debt” mentioned by Jesus. Please consider them: “Debtors are those who are bound to others for some claim in commercial transactions.Literally there can be no such transaction between God and us. It must be used figuratively. We have not met the claims of law. We have violated its obligations. We are exposed to its penalty. We are guilty, and God only can forgive, in the same way as none but a creditor can forgive a debtor. The word ‘debts’ here, therefore, means ‘sins’ or offences against God – offences which none but God can forgive” (Barnes Notes on the New Testament, Vol. 1, Matt. 6: 12). God will forgive man his debt of sin and God expects man to forgive those who have personally sinned against him (Matt. 6: 12, 18: 23-35). Not only does the teaching of Matthew 18: 23-35 contain the glorious thought that God will forgive man of his sin, but the text also presents sin or debt comparatively viewed. The comparison is between man’s sins against God and man’s sins against man. From this comparison, we learn that man’s sins against his fellow man are small in debt compared to man’s sins against God (see vs. 23-35). In fact, the enormity of the debt of sin owed to God is such that the record states, “And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. But forasmuch as he had not to pay (vs. 24, 25, ten thousand talents was an amount totally out of the reach of the average man to pay, regardless of the different possible currency considerations). Man, on the other hand, is seen owing man a much smaller debt (vs. 28). Man’s spiritual debt to God cannot be paid by man’s meritorious efforts, this is another paramount lesson in Matthew 18: 23-35. The forgiveness from God must be “out of compassion” and not because we have paid off the debt (vs. 27, 32, 33). In the language of Paul, man cannot work and earn salvation or freedom from spiritual debt (Rom. 4). However, this is not to say that “Jesus did it all on the cross; therefore, man is totally passive.” Man resolves his spiritual debt by appropriating God’s grace (Eph. 2: 8, 9). Involved in this appropriation is belief, repentance, confession of Jesus’ deity, and water baptism for the forgiveness of sin (Acts 2: 36-38, Rom. 10: 9, 10). The Christian continues to contact Jesus’ blood (the means of the debt being retired) by “walking in the light” and “confessing his sins” (I Jn. 1: 7-10). In the matter of debt to man, Paul experienced a great feeling of debt, to preach the debt releasing gospel to all men (Rom. 1: 14-16). What a thought: we are as far as our own means are concerned, hopelessly in debt to God and facing ultimate condemnation throughout all eternality, but God has made our forgiveness possible through the blood of his Son (Matt. 26: 28). The matter of financial debt. According to one survey, the average American owes $6,000.00 in credit card debt. Some of the debt involves such an exorbitant interest rate that many of these people will never be able to recover. The Christian is to, “make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fall, they may receive you into everlasting habitations” (Lk. 16: 9, see vs. 1-13). I am convinced that Jesus is teaching the proper use of money in this parable. One can correctly make use of money by visiting the fatherless and the widows in their affliction (Jas. 1: 27). Assisting the needy in general and contributing into the treasury of the local church (Eph. 4: 28; cp. I Cor. 16: 1, 2). Financial debt can and does contribute to spiritual failure. Financial worries constitute a portion of the “cares of this life” that result in not bearing fruit to God’s glory (Lk. 8: 14). Marriage failure, mental, and emotional problems are all often connected to financial indebtedness. Families are deteriorating often because both the mother and father are so deeply in debt that they are working long hours just to try to keep from going under or experiencing bankruptcy. Paul said: “Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law” (Rom. 13: 8). I do not think that Paul necessarily means to say that purchasing on time or taking out credit is automatically a sin. When one charges a purchase, one is promising to pay by installments. If the installment is not paid, one has not fulfilled the promise. In fact, the word “owe” on Romans 13: 8 is the Greek opheilo, which means a moral obligation. Credit is taken too lightly today and bankruptcy is too readily available to enable people to escape their debts. Some ways to avoid, meet, and control debt. In the first place, many of the “things” for which people incur debt are not things that man really needs. Americans have come to think that they must have it all and maintain a certain lifestyle. We have too often forgotten the basic necessities of life, food, shelter, and clothing (Matt. 6: 25-34). Covetousness and lack of contentment are rampant (Heb. 13: 5). In many cases, by being diligent and industrious in labor we can avoid objectionable debt. The Christian is to be the opposite of sloth and laziness (Col. 3: 22, 23). The teaching of the wise man is always applicable: “Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might…” (Eccl. 9: 10, contrast with Prov. 6: 6-11). Many are living beyond their means. Plastic money is a temptation some cannot resist; hence, they financially overextend themselves. In doing local preaching, I have too many times encountered families that were in financial bondage. “We cannot help or participate in different acts because we are so in debt,” I have heard. I have always found that such problems are the result of being too fond of material things (I Tim. 6: 6-10). Lack of money management is often the cause of people’s financial problems. One simple way to track and channel expenditures is to keep a log or record of where your money is being spent. When some have done this, they have been shocked at the percentage going for “recreation.” Keeping a log can help us assess our financial priorities and make the necessary adjustments (Matt. 6: 33). Husbands and wives should work together in financial management. This is especially true when both the husband and wife are involved in secular work. Separate checkbooks, credit cards, etc. can and often do lead to financial embarrassment if they are not monitored. The family should be working together in such matters, not going their own separate ways (see Prov. 31: 10-31). Many are in financial want because they ignore hard, honest work and seek after the easy, fast money. Increase in gambling is reflective of such an attitude, I believe. “If I could only win the lottery,” some repine. Constancy over a period of time is always the practice that pays great dividends. The bottom line in the matter of financial debt is self-control. Credit is much too available and many do not seem to be able to resist it. I was speaking to a young person just the other day and asked, “when was the last time you went home? ” She answered and I mentioned that I was sure the cost of travel was a big factor. “Oh, no,” she replied, “when I want to do something and I do not have the money, I just charge it to my credit card.” In conclusion, God’s great love is willing to release us from the debt of sin and spiritual bondage (Rom. 5: 6-10). As a result, we should appropriate God’s debt releasement and ever be ready to forgive those who sin against us (Matt. 18: 23-35). We are admonished to, “Owe no man anything and we need to also be aware of excessive debt to man, viewing such as a moral obligation to be taken seriously. Author unknown, post taken from my website TGL.
  14. Thank you for answering to this post. My million dollar question now is, what if a gay man wins to be the president of the United States. What will the born again Christians do? For I know that the lost, so called Christians will support the gay movement or a gay president. The days of Sodom and Gomorrah have returned. Old message below posted on my website, but I would like someone to reply to the post above and keep on the topic Christians and Politics, thanks. Homosexuality has been around a long time and is nothing new. It has been instrumental in destroying a number of civilizations. It is shocking to see how governmental leaders, doctors, educators and many others have turned pro-gay. However, the most disgusting thing is to see gay churches, gay ministers and pro-gay religious leaders. Nothing is holy to these ungodly people. They dare to suggest that David and Jonathan were homosexual friends. Some have said that Jesus was gay since He never married. It grieves us to repeat such trash, but people should know what is going on!! HOMOSEXUAL DENOMINATION IS GROWING! Rev. Troy D. Perry started a homosexual denomination 8 or 9 years ago, after being asked to resign from the Church of God because of his homosexuality. By October 1975 this denomination had grown to 89 congregations scattered across the land. They boast of many thousands of members in these 89 congregations. It is known as The Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches. They are sponsoring a bicentennial program that will culminate in Washington, D.C., where the denomination will hold its 7th General Conference in 1976. (The 6th Conference in Aug. 1975 at Dallas, was attended by more than 1,000). We have many clippings, describing churches organized by this group across the nation. They have also helped organize a “gay” synagogue for homosexual Jews in California.– Adapted from RNS dispatch in Baptist Bible Tribune, 10-3-75 and from other sources. Rev. Troy Perry married a 23 year old Chicago male in June 1972. This marriage of two males was an Episcopalian rite, according to Perry. In 1971, Perry journeyed to New York, where he conducted anniversary services for the 600 member Parish of the Beloved Disciple in New York. (This church is a part of another gay denomination that is in the Orthodox tradition). While there Troy performed the marriage ceremony for Father Robert Clement, Parish Pastor, and his male lover of 12 years. Perry was assisted in the ceremony by Episcopal Priest Robert Weeks and former Catholic Priest Stephen Marion. GAY MINISTERS AND CHURCHES IN THE NEWS Homosexual Church received into the Greater Seattle Council of Churches. On the final vote, there was only one dissenting vote.–F.E.A. Sept., Oct. 1975. Glide Memorial Methodist Church openly advocates homosexuality. This San Francisco Church is a member of the United Methodist Church. It was founded and is funded by a trust, from Mrs. Lizzie Glide, widow of an oil millionaire back in the 1920’s. In 1969, the pastor of Glide Meth. spoke to 2,000 at the Centenary United Methodist Church in St. Louis. According to Blu-Print 4-25-72, here is what he said: “In every service at Glide Church we embrace one another. We kiss one another. We smell one another. We feel one another. The chairman of my Official Board was an admitted homosexual. And why not? This is one way for every person to find his sexual identity…Most of our people believe in the communal life. I have not married a single couple at Glide who were not already living together…People become stimulated in our church happenings. We believe in people doing their thing and doing what they want to. Several have became so stimulated…they have disrobed. One young man came to church covered only by a blanket…he walked up front and threw his blanket down and stood there totally naked. I walked over and patted him and said, Man what a beautiful body you have.” Blu-Print also reported that the Northern Calif. Council of Churches have their offices in the Glide building. I have here before me, a picture of two homosexual men being married in the Glide Church. THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH “A major board of the United Methodist Church has recommended that the 10 million member denomination accept a more open policy toward membership for homosexuals.” The board is asking for a revision of the church’s present policy which would read, “We welcome all persons regardless of sexual orientation in the fellowship and membership of the church.”–From Philadelphia Inquirer of 10-31-75. The United Methodist Youth Ministry Council urges ordination of homosexuals in the United Methodist Church.–Maranatha Baptist Watchman 1-75. Vote to suspend homosexual Methodist preacher was 144-117. Rev. Gene Leggett, a 36 year old clergyman was suspended by the Southwest Texas Annual Conference of the United Methodist Church. He admitted being an homosexual.– Baptist Bible Tribune 7-2-71. Isn’t it amazing that 117 (44%) voted against suspension??? The Episcopalians and Homosexuals. On Aug. 9, 1973 the Diocese of Michigan recommended in Detroit that they open the ministries of the denomination to admitted homosexuals and allow church buildings to be used by homosexual groups.–Voice of the Nazarene, Jan. 1975. Avowed homosexuals will be excluded from future ordination as deacons, priests or bishops in the Episcopal Diocese of Texas, the church’s state convention has voted.–Lubbock Avalanche Journal 1976. Anglican (Episcopal) Scholar sees no reason to bar ordination of homosexuals. The scholar’s name is Dr. W. Norman Pittenger of King’s College, Cambridge University.–B.B.T. 4-13-73 United Church of Christ and Sodomy! Homosexuals should be ordained to the ministry. Homosexuality as such should not be an issue in considering qualifications for ordination, the Council for Church and Ministry, a United Church of Christ agency said here in a recommendation to the denomination’s Executive Council.–Baptist Bible Tribune 10-19-73. United Church of Christ ordains homosexual! A conference of lay and clergy delegates from 19 Bay Area churches voted 62-34 to ordain William Johnson to the ministry. Johnson said, “I hope some day to share a deep love relationship with another man.”–Blu-Print 5-2-72. The United Church of Christ is one of the major denominations having 6,699 churches, a membership of 1,928,674 and 9,378 ordained clergymen. Powerful forces are working in many denominations to approve homosexual life style and homosexual ministers. Never mind what the Bible says. These blind spiritual leaders are determined to build the 20th CENTURY CHURCHES OF SODOM!
  15. Trump has been acquitted, now he can go back to work and hopefully they stop spending taxpayers money trying to impeach him. I know that there are many brothers and sisters in Christ. that do not like this man, and I can understand why, but remember we’re all sinners, that we all need to repent, and that we are all saved by the grace of God.
  16. I enjoyed the president speech last night and good to see that his cabinet is full of Christians, perfect Christians no, but Christians that believe in God. Let’s keep it that way for as long as we can.
  17. Today Christians doesn’t care much about politics. Our founding fathers and all those that ran to be a politician were Christians, here in America. What change? Immorality have changed much here, what was bad, is now called okay. Christians and churches are more self centered. Don’t want to participate, or they say something like God is in control. Are you going to let the liberals, take over and just give up? Or are we going to support those that support the Christian faith. You decide, for me and my house we will serve, and support the Lord. Thank you, E Morales
  18. Yesterday, a rich and famous person passed away, I don't even have to mention their name. But you already know who am I talking about. This is where good works kick in, its very hard to see that if a person that does good works, like help the poor and needy, don't go to heaven. Only the Lord knows, for we that believe know that by doing good works only, we cannot go to heaven. The world is shocked by this death, and I am shocked by so many that are touched. The bible tells us that he that believe is not condemn, he that believe not is condemned already. Many do not like to hear this, and this is why Christians will have a very hard time, in the last days.
  19. (By Dr. Art Wilson, August 1988) “Except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it” (Psalms 127:1). Without a doubt, God wanted just such a church. Draw your own conclusions from the facts here set forth. I was a Colorado-born and raised, young man. My ministry grew swiftly after preaching my first two sermons, back to back. The first was on a street meeting at the corner of 18th and Larimer Streets in Denver, the second, in the Denver Rescue Mission, just a half block away. That was September, 1933. Much of my early ministry included leading the congregational singing, training choirs, and singing solos. That was because of two things: (1) music was all my service for Christ for two years previous, and (2) music men were very scarce. Remember, we are talking of the great depression days. From September of 1933, until February of 1937, I was kept busy in meetings throughout Colorado. That month, I received an invitation from the College Hill Baptist Church (Central at Erie) to come for a meeting in the Fall. It commenced in Mid-November and concluded the week following Thanksgiving (3 weeks). The Pastor had expressly requested that I would speak to the church on the evils of the old Northern Baptist Convention (now American Baptist) and show them how to get out and to become Wichita’s first “Independent Baptist Church”. That night I spoke on the subject. The Pastor and Board of Deacons of the Faith Baptist Church (1400 South Broadway – now Immanuel) attended at the Pastor’s invitation, specifically to hear what I would say because that church, too, was a convention-controlled church. After the service, that pastor and those deacons stayed to talk with me. God had moved and challenged their hearts. The result: they invited me to hold a meeting at their church and during it to preach that same sermon and give the same instructions to their congregation (about five times larger than College Hill’s). When the night came, God gave a packed house and a powerful meeting. I could not, as a visiting preacher, preside over the business of a church vote on the matter in either church, but as God’s preacher, I could and did say, “Now that you know the truth, how many believe that your church should stop supporting Bible-denying schools and professors and get out of the Convention and that when your pastor brings it up at a business meeting, you’ll vote for withdrawal?” At College Hill, the vote was unanimous (about 93-0). At Faith, there was one loud dissenter against over 500 who stood for the truth. Summarily the two pastors were overjoyed, and stated that at their next church business meeting, they would take the official vote. They declared that they looked forward to the joy and liberty of an independent church. Before leaving to return to Colorado, both pastors and their deacons, knowing I had a large tent (60×120), asked me if I would come back to Wichita for a tent meeting that the two churches would sponsor. A date was set – about Mid-August. In the meanwhile, we were corresponding on the coming meeting. I returned to Wichita for three days in May to search for a location. It was at that time I leased and paid for the use of a city block in Mathewson pasture, between Central and 3rd Streets and two blocks east of Cleveland. I also made contracts for radio time and newspaper advertising. It’s a good thing I did, as you’ll see momentarily. By Mid-June, I received letters from some families in each church, telling me that they did not know what happened, but that their pastor did not bring the convention matter to the floor for a vote at their recent business meeting and were acting “strange” when approached on the matter. Because I was in a battle with the School Board, Chamber of Commerce, and a few prominent citizens in the city of Ft Morgan, Colorado, over banishing the Bible from the school (mind you, this was 1938) and could see my meeting there would need to be extended, I wrote both pastors to tell them. I also said that I would be starting the Wichita meeting on Labor Day Sunday night; that I would arrive Thursday and needed much manpower to get the tent up, seats and platform built, etc. Soon I got the shock of my life when I received a registered, special delivery letter from both of them the same day. They said the same thing. “If you can’t start when you first said, the surely the meeting is not of God, so we will not sponsor the meeting either financially or in attendance of our people. In fact, if you come, we are convinced that the meeting will be of the Devil and utterly fail.” I laid the letters on a chair and got down to pray, asking the Lord what to do. He did not delay His answer, but assured my heart that I should go to Wichita anyhow, and that He would be with me and see me through. He also said, “Just pray for those men, but do not mention the matter at any time.” I obeyed God and kept His promise. For seven and one-half weeks, the meeting was glorious, but it became so cold we had to stop. So on Thursday night, October 27th, I announced, “The meeting closes tonight, but we are going to begin the first ‘Independent Baptist Church’ in Wichita on Sunday morning.” In December, the 3rd and Cleveland property was purchased. On January 1, 1939, a ground (and snow) breaking service was held. On May 14, 1939, we moved into the Tabernacle. There are a thousand other details, but I’m convinced God wanted to do it like He did. Then came the Second World War and people flocked to church in great numbers. Hearts were heavy and sad as nearly everyone had a loved one on the battlefield and they were seeking help and comfort. At almost every service, the Tabernacle was packed and it was not unusual to see anywhere from 6 to 15 or even 20 people accept Christ at each service. The summer campaigns in the mammoth tent were filled to capacity. I can remember on special occasions when the children had to sit on the platform and a number of people stood around the tent on the outside because all the seats were filled. God gave Brother Wilson many sermon topics that were especially appropriate for that time such as: “The End of the OPA”. The Gold Star in God’s Window”, “The World’s Greatest Blood Donor”, “What Kind of Death Will Adolph Hitler Die””, “Is Roosevelt Our Last President?”, and scores of others. On April 9, 1944, a Sunrise Easter Service was held at 6:00AM at Linwood Park. At 3:00 in the afternoon, the Corner Stone was laid for a new Sunday School Building. This additional space was desperately needed. In May of 1944, the Gospel was taken to Plainview with the “Christ for Plainville Campaign” just across from Plainview on Oliver. Assisting Rev. Wilson with song leading was Revis McGrew. September of the same year brought the “Back to Christ and the Bible” campaign in the big tent at Mathewson and the first with Evangelist Art Wilson and the famous Chicago Jubilee Gospel Singers. On November 5, 1944, the church sponsored a great Christian rally at the Wichita Forum. Four thousand to forty-five hundred turned out to hear Rev. Wilson speak on “Who Does God Want For President?” The year, 1946, brought the “Downtown Gospel Crusade” with the Myers Evangelistic Quartet in the big tent at Waco and Douglas. It was during this meeting that Bud Dickson was saved. He presently pastors a large church in Indianapolis, Indiana. The members of the church under the leadership of Bro. Wilson were always ready to get the Gospel out to the people regardless of the cost. This has been manifest by the many meetings that have been held in the City Forum, which had a seating capacity of approximately 20,000. From August 26 through September 16, 1945, the church sponsored the “Christ For Greater Wichita” campaign at the City Forum with Rev. Wilson doing the preaching and Cy and Susie Ramseyer furnishing the music. It was during this meeting that Rev. Wilson brought many wonderful illustrated sermons with the final one being, “The Great Judgment Morning”. At the close of one of those Forum meetings (and let me say here, that those meetings usually lasted until 10:30 or 11:00 at night. Getting out at 9:00 was unheard of in those days.) Well anyway, at the close of the meeting, Rev. Wilson announced that he would like to see all the friends and members of the church at a special meeting at the Tabernacle as soon as everyone would have time to get over there. Now, I ask you, what other kind of a meeting could Brother Wilson have that late at night and in the midst of a revival meeting, except to raise money. Such was the opinion of many people who went on home. Can you imagine our astonishment and great disappointment when we found out the next day that it was not a meeting to take up a special offering as we had supposed, but the wedding of Brother Art Wilson and Elaine Sweet. On March 28, 1948, the City Forum was again the site chosen for the giant Easter service – three of them, in fact: 10:30am, 6:00pm and 7:30pm. Let me say here, the City Fathers didn’t invite our pastor and church to hold meetings in the City Forum. To the contrary, those meetings had to be booked in advance and at a pretty steep price too. But where there is no vision, the people perish and our people had a vision to get the Gospel out to as many people of Wichita as they could. Also in 1948, Ike Foster and Olson Hodges were sent to the Mission Fields. In June, 6 men were ordained as preachers: Homer Ritchie, Bert Rudder, Bill Williams, A.V. Callaway, Clyde Billingsley, and Charles Chaney. Then in August, we had our first church-wide picnic with games, contests, races and surprises. This turned out to be such a success that we have made it an annual affair. The Tenth Anniversary in 1948, was celebrated by a Bible School. This was not unusual as most of our anniversaries were celebrated by an eight-day Bible School, with preachers coming in from mall over the state. There were usually six or eight speakers during the day and two or three at night. But the 1948 Bible School was unique in that all the speakers, singers, etc., who were to take part on the Program were those who began their Christian work in the local church. Nearly 50 Gospel Workers had gone from this church into full-time fields in the first ten years. The year 1949 brought many blessings. In March, our pastor held a revival in Salina. On Wichita night, large continental buses transported our choir and people to the meeting. Besides being a help in the meeting, much good fellowship was had by everyone. In May our church held a Mission Conference with Bill and Lois Logan from China. Jacob Rosenthal, the Jewish friend of our pastor, put on the Passover Feast. Then in July, came five weeks of “The Heaven and Home Campaign” at George Washington Blvd., and Lincoln and Estelle, with Heaven, itself, as its only roof for it was the first out of doors revival the City had ever known. Five of America’s great Gospel preachers shared the speaking role: Rev. Wilson spoke the first week, followed by Curtis Thorpe of Odessa, Texas; Bill Dowell of Springfield, Missouri; Charles Dyer from Arizona; and Harvey Springer of Denver, Colorado. In January and February of 1951, we had another citywide meeting in the Forum. Bill Frerking led the singing, Art Barr, a Gospel Artist from Denver, drew beautiful pictures that kept the audience spellbound, and Emil Aanderud, a trumpeter, furnished the special music, along with Raymond Miller, the nine year old boy who played 15 different musical instruments. Over 100 souls were saved and many were baptized and came into the church. Our Easter services were again held in the Forum Arcadia with the Chicago Jubilee Singers furnishing the music. Then in April, Art Wilson went to prison. This was snot just an ordinary prison, but the famous Folson Prison in San Francisco Bay which is a United States Federal Prison especially for dangerous criminals. Rest assured, Rev. Wilson wasn’t sent there; he was invited to speak to the prisoners. What a great opportunity that was to be able tell those people who have no hope in this world that they can have hope in the Lord Jesus Christ. The Northeast Campaign at 13th and Oliver was held for three weeks during August of 1949. Elmer Manor from Houston, Texas; DA Cabin from Fort Worth, Texas; and Captain Edgar Band with the Intelligence Department, each spoke a week during the meeting. On the 13th Birthday, new hymn books were presented by the members’ special offering. The year, 1952 started out with “Back to God” rallies in the City Forum for 8 consecutive Sunday nights. This was followed by 15 nightly meetings in the Forum Arcadia in February. In March, a new $4,600 organ was presented to the church by 11 individuals. In August, 1953, groundbreaking services for an addition to the Sunday School building was held. The Junior Department had to move to the Washington School building because they had outgrown their present quarters. A citywide “Special Dedication” revival campaign, with Evangelist George Hodges from Jacksonville, Florida, was held at the Tabernacle in April, 1956. In 1963, our 25th Great Silver Anniversary was observed by an eight-day Homecoming, Statewide Bible Conference with some 35 of our preacher boys doing the speaking. What a joy it was to hear and see those who had been called out of our church so many years before. Dr. D.A> Cavin, who surrendered to preach before the church was a year old, was the main speaker and Gary Smith, who was still attending Bible Seminary, was the youngest of the group. It was at this conference that the money was raised to send Brother Wilson to the Holy Land. The boys and girls had a great time in August, 1964, during our daily vacation Bible School which was conducted by Ray Wilson, in the form of a big top Bible circus. A large tend was erected behind the Tabernacle and what went on under that tent was positively fabulous. Stories were acted out each day as children sat in awe. The boy who brought the most new ones that week (over 40) won an airplane trip over Wichita. Everyone, including the adult workers, had a wonderful time. In October, 1965, Brother Wilson was honored by being nominated the President of the Bible Baptist Fellowship International. He had led the Fellowship in that capacity three years straight – 1959-1962. The Lord used him in a mighty way and gave him the physical and spiritual strength he needed to uphold this office. In December, 1965, our church was honored with the presence of the “World’s Biggest Christian”. Standing 7’8″ tall and towering over everyone, Max Palmer gave his testimony as to how the Lord had saved him. We were all amazed at his size and thankful the Devil had lost a real “Goliath”. Our Music Department made a sacred music record in the year 1966. Much time and work went into this record but all were pleased when the record finally came back in its colorful folder. New hymn books were also purchased this year. Then in August of 1966, we bid farewell to the Dwight Billingsley family, missionaries to Lebanon. A fellowship was held and the short program included a speech from John Stevens, the Wichita Mayor who was in Lebanon and who had a special interest in those people in that country. Brother Wilson then presented the Billingsleys with a check for $2,200 from the church to care for their fares and freight. The Church’s Annual Missionary Conference in 1967 brought besides several missionaries and their families, a singer by the name of Richard Miller. The unusual thing about this musician was that he was born without arms or legs. Nevertheless he played his own organ and guitar and accompanied himself while he sang. He was a real blessing to everyone and certainly a challenge to those of us who have all our facilities, showing the Lord can use anyone who is willing to use their talents for him. February, 1968 brought a contest between Brother Wilson and his wife. He threatened to “beat her” each week and succeeded several times. Although Mrs. Wilson spent the last four weeks of the contest sick in bed, her side accumulated a 70-point margin of victory. All the preacher could say was, “I hate to go home now”. In March, 1968, we were privileged to have a former Circuit Riding Preacher, G. N. Stratton of Louisville, Colorado, to speak. Thirty-five years previous, he had placed confidence in a young preacher and opened his pulpit to him. That is how Rev. Wilson was encouraged and got his start. On August 17, 1969, Ray Melugin became the 2nd pastor of this great church. Dr. Wilson going into full-time evangelistic work. Under the leadership of “Bro. Ray” as he is affectionately called, the church grew to an average of nearly 800 during the late 70’s and 80’s, with a high day of 1,307. The bus ministry grew to be the largest in the state of Kansas with over 400 riders on 9 buses. The church missionary outreach includes the support of over 70 missionaries in over 330 foreign fields. In 1971, the three four-plexes, north of the church parking lot, were purchased for $60,000. Later they were used for Sunday school rooms and elective classes for the school. Also one was used as a Missionary Guest House for a few years. In the spring of 1973, Brother Ray felt a burden for Christian education. He shared this burden with the church and led them in voting to start a Christian school which served Kindergarten thorough 12th Grade. Classes started in the Fall of 1973 with an enrollment of approximately 58. As our bus ministry grew under Brother Ray’s leadership, a large three-bay bus barn was erected in 1979 for the purpose of servicing and maintaining church buses. On row of four-plexes were removed so that the bus barn could be built. As students graduated form Baptist Tabernacle School and were seeking college entrance, Brother Ray again was burdened for college education for the young people of our church. In the Fall of 1980, Heritage Baptist University of Wichita was born. Dr Michael Schepis, who has pastored for over 40 years, now serves as Administrator of the College and Clyde S. Billingsley, Jr. serves as Director of Development. Both of these men were saved at the Tabernacle and called to preach in the 40’s. In 1978, Brother Ray received his Doctor of Divinity Degree. He was serve don the Missions Committee at Baptist bible College for several years and has also been Trustee of Baptist Bible College. He served for several years as Moral Majority President for the State of Kansas. He has also been involved with Concerned Citizens for Community Standards. For the past several years, Brother Ray has been the Regional Representative for Accelerated Christian Education for the State of Kansas. This involves visiting every A.C.E. School at least once a year. In 1968, Dr Melugin saw the need for church relocation. After much prayer, seeking the Lord’s direction and fasting, Brother Ray led the church in voting to relocate as the Lord opened doors. During the next year, the church continued to pray for direction. Also, during the next year, God was leading another church toward a common pathway between the two. Two great churches found two great needs met as God led them together to continue the Gospel ministry at 2209 East Pawnee, former location of the Gideon Baptist Church. This is an ideal location adjacent to I-35 Bypass on Pawnee Street. This location ha high visibility and excellent accessibility from all four directions, and not more than 15 minutes from any location in the city limits. Gideon Baptist Church was founded by Dr. Martin Ralstin who was saved, baptized, called to preach, and ordained in the Wichita Baptist Tabernacle. He founded the Gideon Baptist Church in 1954. We have tried to bring you some of the highlights in the Tabernacle’s history, but it has not all been moutain-top experiences as we might have led you to believe here. There have been many valleys of sorrow, disappointments and heartaches too. There came times when we had to say good-bye to many of our faithful brothers and sisters in the Lord. Some of them moved to other parts of this country, while others moved on to that Heavenly country. Our present goals are the same as our original goals: Preach the Gospel to every creature. Baptize believers. Help start new churches. Meet the needs of God’s people. Train young people to turn out right for our Lord.
  20. By the late Dr. Art Wilson The Baptist Name Abandoned SOME CHURCHES ABANDON BAPTIST NAME SOME OTHERS SHOULD Dr. Art Wilson Five Times Past President Of Baptist Bible Fellowship International What a romance! He met her when she was a pretty, vivacious 19-year old. The beam in her eyes, the upstanding moral decency and her effervescent personality literally stole his attention away from all other girls. Before her 21st birthday, he had persuaded her that nothing or anyone else on earth could make his life as happy and as fulfilling as could she. Embracing her at the wedding he whispered, “I love you truly, truly dear.” Then speaking out before God and witnesses he said, “I will cleave only unto thee as long as we both shall live.” What a romance! They each had considered God’s way was to “be fruitful” and expressed their desires mutually to raise a family. Not only was she to him all that a man would desire in a mate– a good cook and housekeeper– but an abiding best friend and a lover. In unison both their desires were met and they were drawn even closer together by the children born to their happy and enjoyable union. After one year a baby boy brought ecstasy into their home. They drew even closer in all ways. After 18 years of super joy and satisfaction, he became somewhat cold toward her. It was hard for her to understand what was changing him. He had met a man at his job who also had a large family but had begun to grimace under the financial and social responsibilities. That man caused him to think likewise. So, without notifying either wife, they left and outright abandoned their own “darling” wife and “precious children” and moved without even a goodbye note, to another state. Not only did “darling wife” and “mother” of his seven children get abandoned but it was learned years later that he even spelled his name differently. I know this story quite well. His “darling” was my mother and that man led astray was my father. They never saw each other again. As it was way back then, so it is and far worse today. Some men can’t take it when the burden of a family becomes their’s. They are easily led astray and can drop their family and go under another name because “true husband,” “faithful father,” and “dependable provider,” are too antiquated for them. Neither do they reflect the more progressive spirit of today’s society. Now think of the thrilling and moving SPIRITUAL romances some of our fine men in the ministry have had in their past. Courted by the Holy Spirit in a Baptist church, saved by Christ the Saviour in a Baptist Church, baptized in the name of the Father and the name of the Son and in the name of the Holy Ghost in a Baptist church; taught and trained in a Baptist Church and/or Baptist school; called of God to preach because of a Baptist church or Baptist youth camp; and for most of them– found their wife in a Baptist church or school; then were ordained to the Baptist ministry (to the upholding of the historical and Biblical Baptist distinctives); and then ultimately became pastor of a Baptist church, persuading that body of Baptists that they believed what the Baptists have always believed. Such ones were asked (or it was assumed) that they were in harmony with “the trail of blood,” and like my father, they couldn’t say enough praise for their “sweetheart of faith and obedience to the faith,” but now– again like my father– they and their misled people want to drop and abandon the name Baptist.(Gal.5:7 & 3:1).As Paul wrote to the Galatians, I must state and ask this question: “Ye did run well (took a strong, unashamed stand for all Baptist doctrines), who hath bewitched you that you are so soon removed?” The Scriptures also declare that in these last days mankind will not endure (stay with) sound doctrine but will want to go with the ear-ticklers. (2 Tim.4: 3). Further, because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. (Matt.24 12). Unlike the terms “transgression, wickedness, lewdness and abomination,” all of which speak of the vilest, the term “iniquity” refers to the counterfeit. This then is saying that because so much counterfeiting is going on, millions are being deceived because they can’t tell the difference. My mother used to warn us thusly: “all that glitters is not gold.” The amount of your education, the size of your church or the importance of your position and/or community popularity have not made you immune from Satan’s counterfeit, high-sounding seductions before which others– even stronger than you– have fallen. Did not the “MAN OF GOD” who was specifically told by God to do his job but not to go to anyone’s place to eat or drink, prove that? He did his job. He was true to his ordained calling. He then obeyed God as he refused the king’s invitation to eat and drink in the palace. He was again true to his ordained calling. He obeyed also by going home on the prescribed road. All the way thus far he is a dedicated fundamentalist role model for younger servants of God who may well have had their eyes on him and secretly desired to be like him. But now comes the bad news. Another “preacher” who had already left his roots of truth, came to the man of God, supposedly to console him (and of course, “help” him), and invited him to come back to his house to eat and drink. Again, God’s good servant was true to his ordained calling. He told the other “preacher” that God had told him he could not go to anyone’s place to eat or drink. (“Let God be true and every man a liar.” Rom. 3:4). So the other “clergyman” said: “I am a preacher too, just like yourself, and God told me to invite you into my home for fellowship, eating and drinking.” On that basis, the man of God decided to leave God’s basics– (trust and obey) and departed in fellowship with the other “nice preacher.” The Bible says that the “nice preacher” lied to him. Like all of us, he was not immune from Satan’s trick– “spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Eph.6:12). That was the end of his ministry. When he left the “nice preachers” house, he was killed by a lion. Take heed, preacher, the Devil is as an angel of light first and then as a roaring lion secondly, and walks about seeking whom he may devour. (I Pet.5:8). Back during the time of World War II, a Methodist preacher knocked at my door. He was obviously very upset. He said it was a heavy burden on his heart. He told me that he could not bear it another day– “God has made me come to you.” He was very angry because he had heard me preach “Eternal Security” on the radio. He called it “a damnable doctrine.” In two hours he had received Christ, and yes, “Eternal Security.” He was so overwhelmed with God’s amazing grace, he immediately asked if I would come to his church and present some sound doctrine. I told him yes, but I said, “they will fire you.” He thought his friendship with the District Superintendent would prevent that. The newspaper head line read: “Baptist pastor conducts Methodist revival on doctrine.” On the 7th day, that “loveable and friendly” district superintendent had a secret meeting with the church board at 6 p.m. He led them in firing their preacher and stayed for the service so that he could inform the congregation of the action and also announce that to keep down any further problems, the doors would be padlocked. He told a packed, standing-room only crowd, “We are sorry to have to do this, but your speaker has not been declaring `Methodist Doctrine.'” I was sitting on the front seat, waiting for time to preach, but when he said that I had not preached Methodist Doctrine, I Jumped to my feet and said, “Just a minute, Sir, let’s check that out.” I then turned to the audience and said, “The first night I preached on `God, the Creator’; the second night on `The Passover Lamb’; the third night on `The Virgin Birth’; the fourth night on ‘The Blood Atonement’ the fifth night on `Jesus, our Substitute on the cross’ last night, it was on `The Bodily Resurrection of Christ’ and tonight I’m preaching on `The Literal Bodily Return of Christ.'” Then I said, “I didn’t know that you Methodists didn’t believe these things and are all religious infidels, as this man is saying.” The next day, the newspaper headline read: “Methodist preacher is fired for having Baptist preacher.” Two days later it read: “Baptist pastor to baptize fired Methodist preacher and wife.” He became a strong Baptist preacher for 45 years. He is in Heaven now. He was honest and honourable– he sent his Methodist ordination certificate back to them with the statement: “Since I no longer believe as you do, I count it my moral and spiritual duty to return this ordination certificate.” Every pastor who has led or will lead his church to drop or abandon the name “Baptist” should be as honest and honourable as that preacher and send your ordination certificate back to the Baptist church that believed you were telling the truth when you were ordained. As in marriage, the vows are unto God first and then to your mate. Are preachers becoming as fickle and uncaring about their ordination vows as people are about their marriage vows? Is it that easy also to divorce the truth (your spiritual darling) you once deeply cherished? One preacher is quoted as saying: “We dropped the Baptist name because we found it to be offensive and therefore a hindrance to our desired progress.” Another said: “That is not the road people want to travel nowadays.” Still a third one said: “Like any business, you must go where the traffic is, and it’s not on the Baptist boulevard any more.” Be honest with God, yourself and your people! Answer these questions. Did you drop the Baptist name (or plan to) because (1) Creation is not true? (2) The Old Testament prophets of God were fiction writers? (3) Because the virgin birth was impossible? (4) Because the One called Jesus, the Christ, was a good man but not God incarnate in flesh? (5) Because the blood from His body on the cross was not efficacious or the only element to atone for man’s sin? (6) Because the touted MYTH of the bodily resurrection from the grave is supported even today by numerous religious “intelligencia?” (7) Because salvation is no longer by grace through faith in the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ alone, plus or minus nothing? (8) Because His ascension back to the Father’s right hand is a “fairy tale?” (9) Because He presently is the only mediator (contact or connection) between God and man? (10) Because Christ’s return in the body is unrealistic, or certainly not soon? (11) Because baptism is no longer the “like figure” (picture) of the death, burial and resurrection of the Son of God, nor does it matter what mode, what “church”, or by what authority it is administered? (12) Because the Lord’s Supper (Communion) is in no way exclusive but is to be in Promise Keeper’s style (everybody) where Jew, Gentile, Catholic, Moslems, Mormons and 25 other groups were “partaking” –making us all one body? Every sound-doctrine Baptist church should immediately demand public repentance from their pastor, or fire him, for breach of covenant if he partook of “communion” there or anywhere else in like manner. He is a traitor to his ordination vows! (13) Because the old Biblical teaching such as, “have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness but rather reprove them,” (Eph.5:11); “Come out from among them and be SEPARATE,” saith the Lord; “Have no” means “don’t get started.” “Come out” means if you find yourself already in the mixture, be a “man after God’s own heart” and obey–come out! Not tomorrow but today! (14) Because staying strong as a true Bible-believing Baptist doesn’t represent the aggressive, progressive spirit of today’s society and is destined to become obsolete and you don’t want to be behind all the religions in your city, even though you are associating with the groups that are at work toward the one world anti-Christ church, whose theme is “Tear down the walls” (of doctrine) and (differences). The fact that what a preacher gets involved in when he abandons the Baptist’s biblical beliefs of the centuries of doctrine mentioned herein can only mean– like it or not– he has moved into the camp of the compromisers, either ignorantly or in the company of those “who will not endure sound doctrine.” Because I have some good preacher friends who have been bewitched by this master-counterfeit program, I can do no less than believe that “all Scripture is given by the inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for CORRECTION and for instruction in righteousness….” (2 Tim. 3:16). Lastly, what will it be like at the Judgment seat of Christ when we stand face to face with Him Who founded the church and gave her the doctrines? It won’t be rewarding when we have to admit that for money, prestige and earthly popularity we abandoned what He first established! Could I possibly be true to God or to you who hear or read these words if I fail to give you Christ’s own instructions– “Come out of her, MY people.” (Rev.18:4). And “MY sheep hear MY voice and they follow ME.” (John 10:27). A Man of God who preach to the End. Praise God”
  21. I hope those Republicans and Democrats that are confused, can see the great job Sir. Trump has done by now.
  22. What happened to the good old fashion Christian bus ministries. Are they still around? Start one today, here is how. If you have one has it been a blessing to your church, please share your thoughts. Free info: non profit God bless all those that have one. Amen https://www.biblebelievers.com/BusMinistryManual.pdf
  23. We are living in the last days, you will not hear this in the modern church today. What we are seeing right now before our eyes, as when Christ came to this earth the first time. People could not see the truth, man did not fear God. Money is still the root of all evilness. Churches today, with their tithes and offering that are just covering the churches mega budgets, and large salaries. Entertainment and shows, must help to pay for all this. More and more churches, but less Christians, Sad.
  24. We that are born again Christians, are serving in the Lords Army. New Christians are privates, as we work our way up to we get to becoming a General, or Pastor. As sins starts applying into your life and mines, you can start removing stripes. That will be your position, and in what place you and I can serve Him.
  25. Sad to hear this, it looks like the future church will need to focus on more Sunday, Wednesday church services, Stop splitting the families. So many divided groups in the church today? I’m not against youth groups going on trips but if they’re old enough to worship together why don’t they?

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