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Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. (1 Corinthians 2:9-12 KJV) Because of what He has done for us, what He has given to us now and what is promised for our future, shouldn’t we be aware of His rules, His plans and expectations? Should we try to turn them into what we want? Ignore them? Only at our own peril:

"For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not. 23 For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: 24 Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And having this confidence, I know that I shall abide and continue with you all for your furtherance and joy of faith; 26 That your rejoicing may be more abundant in Jesus Christ for me by my coming to you again. 27 Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;" ================================================================= God's Instructions To do: "ye(plural) stand fast in one(singular) spirit, with one(singular) mind striving together(all as one) for the faith of the gospel" Is anyone anywhere today doing this with any assembly anywhere daily, living as written, as one, in union with Jesus as Jesus is in union, echad(one), with the Father, as Jesus prayed in John 18 for His disciples AND for the disciples that would come after them ? Has anyone besides me seen this being right and being accomplished by the Father in their lifetime ? It is a seeming spontaneous free gracious (not worked for) result, a choice of the will being willing to completely and always obey Jesus, to follow Him wherever He Goes renouncing all else and leaving all of the flesh, everything, behind, and a consequence, of abiding in Jesus. Not a way to become abiding in Him. Being set apart (holy) is the Father's Work, the Father's Doing, just as also being born again is by the Will of the Father, not accomplished by the will of man, nor by anything man can do or think or wish for or choose.

One Gospel. One , Two, Three, Four, or more Dispensations. No worries in truth. No contradiction. (unless added by man, demons, doctrines, whatever).

John81 posted a topic in General Chats "...Turn to Jesus and not to politics ."

Does it affect anything, ever, in the Kingdom of Heaven ? What do you think, or why is it serious at all for followers of Jesus ? Many thousands, even millions of dollars more is spent willy nilly every year for decades now, "defending" murderers, rapists, terrorists, in the so-called 'legal system' of the untied states. Many millions or maybe billions of dollars are spent by every administration for the last 4 or more decades as far as I know, on performing abortions, and perhaps billions more on the care required by those who were tricked into getting an abortion by the enemy of Christ and people of the usa. So why should anyone at all even think for one second about what you claim is a "serious subject" ? When so many other things desperately more serious are happening EVERY DAY !?

Why then post here a frivolous thread about a frivolous activity ? No purpose, no pure motive, not in Christ ?

A good soldier (in God's Kingdom, in Christ Jesus) does not get entangled in the affairs of this world.

Since pharmakeia is deceiving the whole world Bill, you do not apparently follow Jesus in this area, since you promoted this year (and previous years) deadly pharmacy practices, in line with their deceptions daily.

You specified Protestant in the title of the thread. So what if (even) all the churches , groups, and denominations are wrong and not to be trusted and cannot save anyone? What then ? Why discuss all those that are wrong ? Do you want to discuss then any or all others from USA or any country/ nation/ people that are wrong , instead of from Scripture what is right and true ? BTW, Bill have you yourself found one that is always truthful, and not given in to traditions (of catholicism mostly, in part or more), not given in to culture , not given in to and today still promoting false teachings, false doctrines, and even false gospels that cannot save ?

Why ? To what purpose is the thread posted? What is the motive you had to post it ? Or, more important, is there any Biblical reason you have or had to want to discuss unScriptural processes, unScriptural politics, unScriptural churches or cults ?

It is a noun (or adjective?) from Strong's Concordance. He was an immserser. There were other immersers , orthodox Jewish, and others most likely if not certainly, also , long before him. Some with or after him, some of Jesus' Own disciples , and later others, also were immersers, but not all of them - it was not necessary for all of them to become immersers, only to believe and to be immersed. Like today might be someone called John the Astronaut, or John the Furrier, or John the Chef - not everyone who eats the food prepared by the Chef becomes a Chef, do they ?

That is the point.

"Now Elisabeth's full time came that she should be delivered; and she brought forth a son. 58 And her neighbours and her cousins heard how the Lord had shewed great mercy upon her; and they rejoiced with her. 59 And it came to pass, that on the eighth day they came to circumcise the child; and they called him Zacharias, after the name of his father. 60 And his mother answered and said, Not so; but he shall be called John. 61 And they said unto her, There is none of thy kindred that is called by this name. 62 And they made signs to his father, how he would have him called. 63 And he asked for a writing table, and wrote, saying, His name is John. And they marvelled all. 64 And his mouth was opened immediately, and his tongue loosed, and he spake, and praised God."

Amen Bill. But that's also true of most experiences and most topics in most places daily, like the daily news for example.

Amen. Also, if thousands, or ten people, or millions, are caused to stumble by the photo, and things associated with the photo, then would not that make it evil/ sinful ?

m.journal-neo.org/2020/09/28/gates-vaccine-spreads-polio-across-africa/ In a revealing comment, a CDC virologist involved with WHO and Gates Foundation in the Africa mass polio vaccination campaign, part of something called the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, admits the vaccine is creating significantly more cases of polio paralysis than the deceptively named "wild polio" disease.

Bill, Mr. Bon might or might not have been alive in Christ. Go to Scripture though, instead of persons of unknown character, and you will do better I think. KJV Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; King James Bible For he that is dead is freed from sin. King James Bible God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? King James Bible For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 1 Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. King James Bible Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. Bill, Mr. Bon might or might not have been alive in Christ. Go to Scripture though, instead of persons of unknown character, and you will do better I think. KJV Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; King James Bible For he that is dead is freed from sin. King James Bible God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? King James Bible For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 1 Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. 1 Peter 5:10 But the God of all grace, who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after that ye have suffered a while, make you perfect, stablish, strengthen, settle you. Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. King James Bible Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

Yes, those holding a Bible have shown themselves to be far far worse and more vicious murderers than most terrorists . Holding a Bible, claiming to be God's representatives on earth, millions were slaughtered without mercy. Far worse morally and far more in number than Iran or other called terrorists today. excerpts of a few of them: Like today, lying was morally acceptable to Christians then. "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106] In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men, women and children. [SH107] In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a 'barbeque'." [SH115] To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to 920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about 30,000, fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred. And the carnage was not over then. All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it was before the frontier age actually had begun. A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery. In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala, this continues even today. --------------------------------------- "Like today, lying was morally acceptable to Christians then. "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106] In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men, women and children. [SH107] In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600 Indians were destroyed. A delighted Cotton Mather, revered pastor of the Second Church in Boston, later referred to the slaughter as a 'barbeque'." [SH115] To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to 920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about 30,000, fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred. And the carnage was not over then. All the above was only the beginning of the European colonization, it was before the frontier age actually had begun. A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery. In many countries, such as Brazil, and Guatemala, this continues even today."

In the King James Version of the Bible the text reads: And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

All you have to do is get in a closer walk with God and you’ll find your enemies are in your own church. ~ Leonard Ravenhill

Recognized by various men of God in the last century, and proven and shown by daily living repeatedly in America and England: truthaccordingtoscripture.com › sermons › le... Quotes From Leonard Ravenhill ... "I doubt if 5% of professing Christians in America are born again--and that's true of England!".

I do not wish to be your buddy at this time. You do not appear to choose to go along with nor be interested in seeking Scripture concerning several things recently.

oops. Sadly, due to the pregnancy hrmone being included in shots girls and women received over the last five or more decades, there are ten times as many or more than that (according to recently read reports this year of fertility clinics) spontaneous miscarriages as there are live births, as the womans body causes the fetus to abort , antibodies etc treating the fetus as a foreign object instead of nurturing the life as God meant. One or more African countries have sued or tried to sue the WHO , the USA, Pharmacy, etc because population control was included in the vaccines they were given by the millions, without telling them at times (most times). This has been going on for decades, btw - it is not something new, and there is no known way to change it since the drug makers have the money , the power, the control, the oversight, and so on far greater than any government or governments on earth have. Bribery of course is rampant. (formerly called lobbyists , et al) . Note that decades ago also, one so-called church told me that they had voted for a certain president who won, for five reasons. One reason was because he was anti-abortion. When I pointed out that he had paid for over a million abortions per year, they got very quiet instantly - they had no feasible nor reasonable response. Oh, the other four reasons they had voted for him and were proudly strutting around as if they had actually helped to get him elected (they did not), the other four reasons all turned out to be false also. Instead of learning or repenting of their pride and false nationalism , they simply went on their merry way continuing to congratulate one another without seeking the truth at all.

You are not here for me. I asked the other poster simply to indicate that he had replied to something not addressed to him. It's okay to do so, and often done, but I did not know if he had realized it or not. What do you think Jehovah witness thinks ? Did your 'pastor' or 'teacher' tell you something about them ?

Lived in a small town for a while , have you ? i.e. secluded? No, I don't think so, but there have been many, many , many testimonies by wonderful saints, Ekklesia born again by the Father in heaven, circumcised of heart, and set apart (holy) in this world with many many many more miracles as you have described. i.e. many many saints in history, even perhaps , God Willing they be found, in the last ten years, and last fifty years, and last one hundred years. Corrie tenBoom may have had hundreds of prayers answered every year , a few of which were published in her books giving all the praise and glory to God and Jesus. Likewise Foxes Book of Martyrs compiled testimonies of many thousands of faithful saints from over the centuries. Again, keeping things fresh, that is commenting fwiw while possible and before moving on and forgetting. Note that as far back as 1976 plans for the pandemic were devised by the wicked and published. It is not necessary, but possible , that you read some of the reviews or sketches or plans themselves and don't remember that. Yes, others also had revelations of the fake pandemic, decades ago, and centuries ago, and it was recorded decades ago, and centuries ago by them or bibliographers and so on, but this is not popular to the world leaders, governments, doctors, dung lords (drug makers), and the very rich elite who profit so much from the deception(s) daily perpetrated now.