Martyr_4_FutureJoy

1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spiritof man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. ---------------------------------------------------------- If something is not understood from God, ask God. If something is not understood from a man, ask the man. This is yet to be seen or determined.

No. Simply, if a question was asked and answered , then good, there is potentially "light" on the question and answer. If darkness is preferred or something is being covered up, then, well, let's bring it out in the light for all to examine. Per the OP, if something in the OP causes someone, anyone, especially a weak brother or sister, to stumble, then as KJV Bible indicates that is a sin. Right ? Even if it does not cause a strong faith brother or sister to stumble, causing someone weak in faith to stumble remains a sin, right ? Does it matter if the one stumbling is quiet, unheard and unseen ? Does the sinfulness of causing them to stumble depend on seeing them stumble ? If someone leaves a rake across the path and a blind man stumble on it, but no one sees it happen, is the one who caused it free from sin because no one saw it ?

Definition of "sort of a rhetorical question": a question the answer is known to the one asking it, and it exposes potentially if not actually the sin of the one being questioned if they do answer it.

Well, I thought I simplified it for you specifically. Let's get to the simple matter then - quote the question you did not understand and I will very simply explain it again . Note you are misquoting me in this post of yours I am replying to, for whatever reason even if not known. I don't think blaming it on gammatical structure whether a real problem or not is a valid excuse for misquoting me or inferring (or implying) things not in evidence. I can if needed parse out the post or any other post for your benefit if it helps understand it. i.e. keep it simple. If something is not clear, ask. Very simple, for clarity. Because it was "sort of" a rhetorical question (in that I know the answer), but you (and others) still have not answered and the reason does not appear to be a Godly one so far .

It is or was a sort of rhetorical question, to help pin down the thoughts of other posters replying who seem to indicate that they think murder is okay or justified somehow. It is with their own words they will be found not guilty or guilty one day. I think no one yet has answered the simple obvious question : what was the penalty executed in Acts for lying to God ? Answer: they both dropped dead. Question: Is murder worse than lying to God ? Or in other words, will God punish those who murder any less severely than God punished Ananias and Saphira (the ones who lied to God ) ? Again, those not answering , appearing at first now to be like BB in deflecting as several posters have accused him of right or wrong, may be either ignorant of the Scriptures about murder, or they are guilty and don't want to come out and agree with the Scriptures about murder ?

edit in (people appear not to know what murder is according to the Scripture, and/or they appear to approve of murder which is not approved of by Jesus nor in the KJV Bible) ==================================================== There is potential or real sin sinfulness indicated by replies (and lack of answers to questions) for this topic "any problem with this photo" according to the Bible. Some people instead of answering direct questions avoid them and deflect because of sin or because of lack of understanding or perhaps because of things not spoken about that are even worse. If simple direct questions cannot be answered, but are avoided and/or deflected from constantly, then what good would it do to go further or deeper on the topic of the thread ? Why not just answer the question like I did, the question that was posted ? If you did miss a post, or posts, that is not sinful in itself , right ? The answer is not dependent on any posts you read or any posts you missed.

He didn't. (not until in The Apocalypse that is) What was the penalty executed in the NT (in ACTS) for lying to God ? (lying is not as bad as killing someone , right ? )

Specifically, what is written in Scripture about someone who takes the life of another person ? (whether brother or not)

"Beware the leaven of the religious teachers/leaders".

There is none good but God. ? Scripture , right ? There are honest, healing, non-harmful doctors and healers and helpers and so on. So? I said repeatedly to seek those. "Churches" ought to be a source, or a resource, or a help, in finding health, instead of death, right ? The world ? Society ? Scripture says is pernicious. Wrong. Wicked. Opposed to Jesus. Opposed to the good honest doctors. Remember this is not a surprise - they put Jesus to death. They oppose Scripture. They are okay with deception, violence, murder, and silence those who are truthful, honest, good, right, holy with Jesus and in Jesus.

If someone kills a brother, what then? Are they guilty ? Are they held accountable by God ? Does God Punish them ? (according to the Bible)

For what reason did Jesus Messiah instruct His own disciple: you must become like infants/ little children or you will never see the Kingdom of Heaven ? We are to be like little 3 year olds walking along trusting our Heavenly Father all the time for all of our lives and everything in our lives, as Jesus does and did. Just like a 3 year old with his dad walking along, seeing an object laying on the sidewalk, or something in the grass or in the street that is new to him/us/ we look up at our Dad and He Knows we want His Word , His Approval, His Permission if it is allowed to pick up the object, to know whether it be good or bad, right or wrong, helpful or valuable or harmful or to be left alone at once (don't dwell on wicked ways with sinful men or their objects). So we remain in union with the Father in heaven , in Christ Jesus, Daily, Seeking His Appraisal of everything before we mess with it, pick it up, consider it, study it, have it, or even desire it.

There's a thread titled "Galatians" by the BOT in Biblical Issues I was going to post this in, but did not like the sinful source used for the OP and picture in the OP. A sinful source, an unclean vessel holding perfume, if it is perfume, spoils it. @Rebecca Independent Fundamental Baptist 411 From MissouriIndependent Fundamental Baptist Popular Post Posted March 25, 2014 It's been awhile since I read Galatians, but in the entire book of Galatians isn't Paul talking about being careful of those who are preaching falsehoods? ====================================================================== Perhaps. Jesus Himself gave strict-stern-serious warnings to His Own disciples to "beware the leaven of the scribes and Pharisees". Not just be careful - much more serious. And concerning the false gospel(s) - have nothing to do with anyone who brings a false gospel - do not greet them even passing on the sidewalk/street/ path, and do not have a snack nor a meal with them "Beware" LEST YE BECOME GUILTY OF THEIR SIN WITH THEM. (even if you don't actively do it, but just appear to be okay with them).

How recently were lobotomies performed in the Untied States by licensed doctors or in pharmakeia's laboratories /facilities ? I saw commercials from a century ago promoting smoking camels as a remedy for some illnesses, btw. Now they (evil doers) are promoting other toxins as remedies to help people, to get people hooked for life (or death).

If someone kills a brother, what then ? If someone hates a brother, what then ? If someone causes a brother to stumble, resulting in losing his faith or just losing peace and joy, or being cursed by God, because of it, what then ?

Yet what choice do people have ? Can they "get in the pool" when the water is stirred by an angel and be the first one in and be healed ? Can they find a true healer and recover their health ? Can they find anyone who will tell them the truth ? The world (society) is death dealing, full of wickednesses and illnesses and diseases and dementias disorders brokenness beyond anyone's imagination - if maybe one percent of all this bad and wrong was comprehended by a man, it would sorely vex him daily. (may drive him bad, er mad, as has happened to millions) There is no (real) healing offered by the world (carnal, sinful, apart from Christ, unholy, unrighteous, opposed to the Creator, contrary to KJV Bible His Word) . Only temptation to give in and go along, on a "way that seems right to a man, but is the way of destruction" .

Perhaps. At one or more places in the NT, someone was healed, and did not even know who it was who healed them until later when they met Jesus again and Jesus told them. How many are healed today you know of ? Yet if a man was the first one into the pool at the right time, he was healed. He healed one of many who were there. Not two. Not three. Just one. In some church services, in the people assembled, sometimes (or many times?) there may be one person saved out of them all. Maybe two. Maybe three. Or just one, if any at all. When the Gospel is brought to a town by a messenger of the Father, how many will be saved ? We don't know. We are not to know. We are just to do as the Father has directed us. In twenty years asking, asking, asking. Posting and inquiring of all the readers, tens of thousands of readers, on several (so-called) 'Christian' forums, I have sought for anyone who was ever saved via the internet. I watched, read, searched, scoured the internet for just one person healed, one person saved, and found not even one. Only recently, someone posted that perhaps two who read internet pages found out about |Jesus|Salvation|Believers| - i.e. something pertinent to life, and they went to someone in person as a result and were 'saved' , according to the report. (not verified yet) If that did happen, then those two saved are the only two saved via the internet that I ever heard of that has at least the possibility of being truthful. On the other hand, I have seen many led astray by the internet, whether they were saved or unsaved, believers or unbelievers, they were led into sin or into more sin by the internet, not healed, not made whole, not saved by the internet nor via the internet. There are testimonies, btw, of people being healed of diabetes, ms, cancer, and all manner of diseases, any disease practically, one at a time, when the pool is stirred so to speak, when one moves into the pool trusting they will be healed. When one believes a way exists to be healed, and watches for it, seeks for it, and keeps seeking for it, they eventually find it. If they are most blessed, they find the truth , and the truth sets them free (as written).

Interesting. Life Important. Work. We , Ekklesia, are the Creator's craftsmanship, living stones, set together, by Him, His Purpose, His Plan, His Poem Daily. Work we have to do ? "the works prepared before He Created the Universe" Works prepared , a daily schedule if you will, works prepared for us to do. To Do His Word. To Be and To Do His Work on earth, in the world, as LIGHTS in this world of darkness, as HOPE in this world of danger and death and destruction, to Bring/ Shine Healing Salvation on those who are hurting, broken, dead in sin and trespasses. As Echad, One, With the Father and the Son as They Are One, we are One in Christ Jesus with the Father.

"Matthew 6: 9 - 13 . . . Pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." There was darkness, void, The Creator Said "LIGHT", and LIGHT existed. Out of the pool of the Universe He Created, or before anything else, before the universe , He Created Wisdom First, then forgiveness, so men could be made whole (He Knew Man Would Sin). Whoever gets into the pool is made whole. He bore our sicknesses and our sins upon Himself, with all of our guilt and shame. Our sins, He had to die for. The Almighty, humbled to be born a man, suffered agony beyond all the combined imaginations and knowledge and experiential knowledge of all the men of the world, and was crucified so we in Him Can Be Made Whole. Who wants to be made whole ? Healed. Saved. Forgiven ... Blessed Eternally is the man to whom the Creator Does Not Impute Judgement and Punishment for their sins. Nuances of the English language: "supposed to" ? "the pool" ? I'll have to go read this more. I thought whoever was first into the pool when an angel stirred 'troubled' the water was healed. i.e. this was known or expected by those waiting around the pool and happened 'routinely' however frequently whether several times a day, or only once a week/ month/ year or more. I don't remember if the Scripture indicates/says the angel healed them, the pool healed them, or Yahweh healed them, or the Angel of the Lord healed them, but I'm pretty sure they were healed, whoever was first into the pool when it was 'troubled'.

Resplendent in Glory Every Moment Eternally ! Scourged and Scourger

This provoked or sparked a question to ask - If The Creator our Father in Heaven declares one of us or declares someone Justified, at that moment or point would we or they then be saved ? I don't know if being justified is or includes in the meaning of being justified also the same or sufficient to mean one is saved ?

"Isn't it amazing how the Lord will emphasize certain things in our lives - reinforcing something He is trying to teach us?!"

================================= =================probably will be merged ================= Did you approve of the Creator's Way to provide a place for every family ? (Kitagrl may be gone, so anyone else? Do you or did you approve of the Creator's Way to provide a place for every family ? ) Was the government the problem in Egypt ? In Italy ? In Germany ? In Russia ? In Finland ? (hint: this last one, Finland, last I heard in the last few years, has solved (carnally, without trust in God) their homeless problem - everyone gets enough money every month , or otherwise is provided, a place to stay and 'all' their needs met) "IF MY PEOPLE " ... Anyone remember these words? This Scripture In Context ? The Creator's Promise Conditioned on "IF MY PEOPLE" ? Oh, my... "Conditioned"?! The Creator Set Conditions ? ....... ... . yep

How come no one replied or posted what Scripture says for the assembly of believers to do/ how to live ? Admittedly, I skimmed thru the thread, and other threads likewise , and may have missed a true answer posted. Instead, without even trying to find the wrong answers, they keep popping up in so many places(threads) , I see many many posts, in this thread and others, posting - saying - things the world (carnal, apart from Jesus) does, even perhaps 'churches' do, things that do not include what Scripture says to do nor how to live !? Is this because there is so little instruction and so few examples in the groups or churches people are in, they just do not even have any idea what is right any more ? ! Just one example for now: What group in the Bible had ALL of their needs met, and how ? (This is noted possibly in over 40 places in Scripture, although it might only be 2, 3, or 4 places; I really really should know without having to go and check , but I never thought the famine would be so devastating and far reaching and widespread and pervasive; which really really is not an excuse at all , no, I should have diligently at least aimed at remembering, probably, but I really really believed and thought not only how good this all is, but that it was great news and all of God's people everywhere I went would already have this knowledge in their portfolio/ repertoire / standard lessons for everyone .... )

The Creator Made Everything Simple. Mankind came up with many devices. There are of course many false gospels. In Rome, the USA, Britain, Europe, the Philippines, China, Africa, .... How many kinds are enough ?