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Does your particular pastor, or someone else in your group,  tell you the stories of the KJV Bible ? 

Do you read it yourself ? (I apologize if for any reason you are challenged physically or mentally and are unable to read it yourself - I've met some who were unable at all to read anything themselves , like due to blindness ,  very poor vision,  or paralysis of some sort/bed ridden, in traction, etc ) 

I was searching for a place to post observations about BB needing help,  and by God's Sovereignty or at least His Willingness landed here for a moment.

Pain can be awkward to deal with (physical pain in this context/topic/ purpose/ plan) .

Pain can be relieved naturally. (virtually any pain, at least if caused by inflammation - swelling as most physical pain is) .

(no opiates, no steroids, no narcotics, no synthetic drugs , nothing addictive needed,  nothing with bad side effects nor with any type of withdrawal problems at all).

This is very important for churches to be aware of,  yet it seems they don't care enough to find out nor to let their members know.

I've met many who got into trouble with steroids, or prescription pain pills, even mild ones,  and even ibuprofen or acetaminophen. (motrin or tylenol), 

and even more who got in serious trouble, including increased vascular damage , bleeding and heart attacks ,  from an aspir a day.   (btw, it would not pass todays requirements for health and safety - it got grandfathered to bypass the bigfarma's own restrictions.) .

On 3/19/2019 at 11:35 AM, Jerry said:

Sad article and testimonies.

But it does go to show how each generation in a church - each family and individual - needs to be faithful and walk with the Lord today, not just rest where they or their church once stood.

There is no coasting in the Christian life - not for an individual, and not for the church they are part of.

Coasting is like sitting on the fence when temptation to compromise comes your way. I think it was my webpartner, Angela Trenholm, who once said, “The Devil owns the fence,” and I know the fence is greased! It is a slippery slope, for sure.

Do you think or consider being on the fence like that is being "luke warm",  neither cold nor hot ?

And like Jesus says ,  you are either for Me,  or against Me,  there is no middle ground. (paraphrased)

On 3/26/2019 at 10:12 AM, Ukulelemike said:

My old church in San Diego, fortunately, hasn't gone through this, though I've seen they are starting to use some contemporary music, carefully recrafted to a more conservative sound. Unfortunately, this is often the first step down. Once the current pastor, who is holding things together, passes, the trip down will be much quicker.

Similar perhaps to what the Apostles warned in the first century ?   They told the assemblies - the wolves are our there watching this flock,  waiting for us (the Apostles) to depart (sleep/die),  then they will (or are ready to) tear the flock apart.   

On 8/30/2020 at 1:02 PM, Bouncing Bill said:

If churches and individuals were doing what they should there would be no need for government programs. 

Right on for followers of Jesus - wherever they are found and true,  not one among them has a need not met (food, clothes, shelter,  healing (when possible, God WIlling) .  

The government programs are still needed though for the rich.  That is how they increase their riches manifold (millions times millions these days) and maintain and grow in power and control. 

Yes, for the poor also - the secular poor.   They do not have Christ nor hope in the world, and need government programs to just survive and get barely extreme basics (or less than half the basics,  of food and medicine and diapers and so on).  (Government programs have been set to provide half or less of a person's or a family's needs,  according to social workers administering the programs,  previous to the year 2000 at least.  Since then, and in the now and future, some programs may provide an abundance ($1000.00 to $3000.00 per month) to individuals or families and call it "common income" (some countries already have been doing this for years) ,

in line with the coming mark of the beast.  People worldwide and in usa have been conditioned to accept it,  and many already agree to let government meet their needs instead of God.

Note though,  that foreign camps in the usa,  areas of one nationality ,  often do without government help.   They have done this for over a century -  they work hard, as taught all their life, and they work TOGETHER,  HELPING ONE ANOTHER, so if one falls,  the others are their to help hold them up.    One 'fact' (not verified per se) seen the 60's through the 90's was that almost no one from several other countries was on government assistance in the usa - they had large families, strong communities,  and succeeded often in work and community.  Many of them not at all Christian nor serving God but serving idols,  but they had "a village" often with strong family ties going back hundreds or maybe thousands of years.  Again, this did not at all make them 'saved',  and might even make it more difficult to be saved eternally , to turn to the Father for His Kingdom is near/at hand/  because to do so requires breaking their strong family allegiances and community rules and standards.

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Good Post Bill !

On 8/30/2020 at 4:49 AM, Bouncing Bill said:

 

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"What did he tell the rich young ruler? Wasn't that wealth redistribution?

What are we told in Matthew about the final judgement? From Matthew:

I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you gave me of me, I was in prison and you visited me.

"If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered." -Proverbs 21:13

"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy." -Proverbs 31:8-9

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." -Matthew 6:24

"Then Jesus said to his disciples, 'I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'" -Matthew 19:23-24

"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'" -Matthew 25:41-45

"He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished." -Proverbs 17:5

"He who oppresses the poor to increase his wealth and he who gives gifts to the rich--both come to poverty." -Proverbs 22:16

"Jesus answered, 'If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" -Matthew 19:21

"He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses." -Proverbs 28:27

"People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs." -1 Timothy 6:9-10

"Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life." -1 Timothy 6:17-19

Wickedness is 'normal' in society.

Even if ALL the righteous saints voted,  they would be totally overwhelmed by the wicked,

just as always,  when /if/ voting is how someone is put in office.

Long, long ago,  we learned no one's vote counts.

Even if or when it 'counted',  the wicked were much more numerous, so they won,  each and every time,   almost.

But God the Almighty Says Clearly HE IS THE ONE,  HE raises up Kings and Princes and Presidents and Leaders,  and HE brings them down.   (i.e. not voting)

If someone wants to vote,  does it matter?   If they trust man's ways,  it does, it counts against them.

If they trust the Heavenly Father,   they don't worry or even think about voting.

The Heavenly Father placed Trump first,   and Biden now,  in place.   For His Own Purpose. (not by man's power or will)

On 1/1/2021 at 6:33 PM, heartstrings said:

Those who voted for this gay rights, abortion loving, God hating, Christian hating crowd.... I doubt very seriously that they have been born of the Spirit of God. Can't be.

 

Is there any evidence in Scripture, or otherwise,  that even 5% of voters are born again ?

"Can't be" , I think. 

21 minutes ago, Salyan said:

https://www.newstbt.com/post/court-permits-government-to-avoid-producing-dr-hinshaw-s-evidence-on-lockdowns-at-may-3-trial?postId=6079d2664688760015642e8e
 

So if in 13 months, the government does not have shareable scientific evidence to support the lockdowns, then why are there lockdowns? Why are they locking a church? If they cannot support the restriction of Charter freedoms, their health orders are invalid. And yet they stand. I’m about ready to start a revolution right now...   

#verymad

As noted for over a century,  and frequently the last 14 months as well,

the honest < doctors/ believers/ researchers/ scientists/ reporters/ etc including common people not yet brainwashed by false governmental entitites ?

call the lockdowns and maskandates and potshots ridiculous,  simply.

I think in the Bible it is written that God Himself LAUGHS at the designs and plans of the wicked ?

Those who are honest though,  have not seen it helpful nor necessary to start or take part in a revolution.   The powers in power, the money, the governments, and so forth,  have near total control of the military, police, banks, and so forth - so much so that the ones telling the truth are "a voice in the wilderness".

On 8/25/2020 at 12:40 AM, SureWord said:

"...will go out and vote in ALL elections now."

I don't believe there's enough to matter/ make a diff/ for good ,  not even close,  even if they all did.

I don't believe they know what voting is all about.

I think they might actually believe this,  but

I don't believe at all that it is all about this

(neither the method,  who is trusted,  what is accomplished,  nothing at all seems to be in line with Biblical directions,  and nothing about believing in voting has resulted in anything Righteous, Holy, or Biblical been brought about )  rather,  a lot of evil is concealed and perpetrated by convincing people that their vote counts or/and that their voting gets things done...   >>

    On 8/20/2020 at 5:20 AM, E Morales said:

    The bible also says give to Cesar, what is of Cesar, and to the Lord the things of the Lord. We paid taxes, we paid our tithes and offerings. We vote for a new pastor, we vote for our new president. We lead people to the gospel for salvation, we lead the people to vote, to vote for those that will support the faith, and Israel.

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"While growing up, this church was a very conservative church. Never would they have entertained the thought of having anything other than a piano or organ on the stage. Upon this visit, I noticed that everything has changed the last 30 years. No longer did the church look like a place of worship, but rather an entertainment center. Ironically, the crowds were smaller now than 30 years ago. "

Somewhere in Scripture it is written to seek out and find those who are faithful (whenever going to some town or city ) ,  right ?

Also perhaps with the warnings or cautions,   not to seek out 'seeker friendly',  'prosperity',  'cheap grace',   'lordship salvation' ,   types of leaders, teachers or assemblies,  right ?

Find the faithful ones,  who did not change,  who did not go along with changes in churches, culture, society, whether because of the government's involvement (telling churches how they could receive gov help in the future, by telling their people to go along with the government directions and not to resist) .... or because of the world secular churches instructions and oversight (millions or billions have joined the world church, contrary to all directions of the Author of Scripture - The Giver of Life and Salvation.) ..

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 "Issues like marriage, abortion, and hell apparently divide so the preaching ceased on those things, although rock music in the church apparently was not a dividing issue.

Having said all of that, the gates of hell are trying like crazy to penetrate the church,change its message, change its purpose, and to distort the gospel.

Matthew 16:18 “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”

If anyone else has seen that music has changed your church, please let us know and comment below.

What happened to your church?

Edited March 9, 2019 by Matt Souza"

The True Believers did not change,  did not depart from the truth,  did not go away from Jesus.  

It looks like the "gates of hell" have not had to penetrate most churches,  the churches followed willingly,  wittingly or not,  outside of truth,  leaving/departing from (if they had been with)  the Good Shepherd Jesus,  to follow another voice instead of Jesus.

"rock music" was not a dividing issue.   Those who follow Jesus don't go with those who do rock music.   Those who do rock music have their own many groups all happy with that direction, not knowing where they are headed apparently, or maybe where they have already gone?

All the false gospels appear to be "interesting explanations" to different people, even to multitudes (not to just a few), 

but the KJV Scripture says they are anathema,  and not to even greet them nor have a meal with them lest found being quilty (taking part) in with their sin.