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BobbyH

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  1. BobbyH

    Local Church

    Well, I hate that you want to give up on this discussion. You have helped me to understand your interpretation. Here is what I have learned so far. 1. "The Church" in Acts was a local church which included all those saved and baptized at the time. 2. That it took Salvation and Baptism to be added to "The Church" at that time. 3. Without baptism you could not be added to "The Church" at that time. You can be saved and not be part of "The Church". If you respond, good, if not I appreciate your time.
  2. BobbyH

    Local Church

    I do NOT believe baptism is part of salvation, baptism is an ordinance and should not precede "church" membership. Acts 2:47 confirms that: "Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." Acts 2:47 KJV
  3. BobbyH

    Local Church

    "Institution" is a curious word. I am going to have to chew on that for a while!
  4. BobbyH

    Local Church

    Jesus was talking about the local church at Jerusalem which was "The Church" at that time. His teachings are applicable to all "local churches" and to "His Church" as scripture. Is what Paul wrote to The Church at Rome not applicable to The Church at Ephesus? These churches did not exist at the Matthew 18:17 time frame, but if you are a follower of Christ it is unto you scripture. I do believe in local churches but just how autonomous are they? There is One Christ. I have noticed that you also use local "church" for several churches.
  5. BobbyH

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    I appreciate your thorough explanation. My prayerful conviction is that baptism does not add you to the Lord's Church. Salvation does. I do believe baptism is an ordinance as well as communion. I believe it is necessary as part of the great commission. I was baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost after I was saved not to join a local church, but to be obedient to Christ. I want to tell you I had never even heard of this doctrine until recently. I have been Baptist my entire Christian life. I am not Protestant and I am not catholic, but I do believe that Jesus's Church is the collective total of His called out assemblies of true local churches. Prayer Requested.
  6. BobbyH

    Local Church

    The Church is built by Jesus Christ on the foundation that He is "The Christ" The apostles built local churches with Him as the Chief Cornerstone. All these are still His Church. Are there tares in His Church? Yes. However, He tells us to let Him sort that out! "Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." Acts 2:47 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them." Matthew 18:20
  7. BobbyH

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    I just listened to your fine message. Thank the Lord for you and what you do. I think some are confused on my stand and maybe I am not expressing it well enough. I believe in the "Local Church" and that we have a mighty work to do. In your message you mentioned someone that is truly born again should join with a local church for teaching and growth and I agree to that. If they do not do that right away I believe they are still part of the body of Christ and a member of His "collective" church. Were the churches of the New Testament not all part of this collective Church that began with Jesus and the apostles? I think of Paul's epistle to the Thessalonians about the rapture and I can't help but believe that his instruction was to all born again believers collectively. The New Testament speaks to us all. You pray for me and I'll do the same for you. Brookside Missionary Baptist Church Old Fort NC
  8. BobbyH

    Local Church

    Surely the 120 in the upper room were blood bought born again believers and I agree they were the first "official" members of Christ's Church. I believe that those added after Peter's message were added at the time of their being blood bought, born again believers. Salvation adds to His Church. Baptism is a public demonstration (confession) of that salvation. I still love my local church here at Brookside Missionary Baptist Church - Old Fort, NC .
  9. BobbyH

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    I will agree with the believers part and at that time they were all the believers that existed. I recognize the Pastor as Jesus Christ..wasn't Judas the keeper of the purse at the time (treasurer)? IMHO I just believe that salvation adds to the Christ's Church (which this was). He is my Shepard (Pastor). I am an under-shepard of His flock at Old Fort NC. Thanks for the reply and Pray for me.
  10. BobbyH

    Local Church

    What local church is Jesus referring to in Matthew 18:17?
  11. BobbyH

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    I am the Pastor.
  12. BobbyH

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    Thanks for the welcome. Our little church Brookside Missionary Baptist Church is located in the small Western NC town of Old Fort, NC. It does not have a long written history, but has an oral history that has been shared through it's long time members. I began around early 1900's initially as a community school. Our congregation consists mostly of families of the initial members. We are Baptist but not affiliated with any association. We are self governed under the leadership of the Holy Spirit. We are not typical independent Baptists in that we believe the "Church" is all the truly saved, and also our local church as an assembly of like minded believers. We are not ecumenical nor universal. I look forward to getting to know our brothers and sisters on this forum. I pray that we all can be of one mind and one accord in our service to The Lord Jesus Christ.
  13. BobbyH

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    Hello, I am new to this forum and I look forward to my experiences here.
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