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  1. You are kind. Thanks be to God. There are other such providences to speak of, even of this recent week. Perhaps a thread on the Providences of God would be edifying.
  2. With all my God-given heart brother No Nicolaitans. I came in love. I will be banned in that name which is above every name.
  3. I also personally know how God's providence works. I too was recently (basically gifted) a vehicle (2006). $20 (twenty) bucks (plus a little maint. (still needs some maint.) and insur., reg. tax.) and it was given to me, and it runs pretty good. At the time, I basically said, "OK God, what do you want me to do with it, in service for you, since you gave it to me?" He was the one who purchased it really. Just a testimony to also share.
  4. The bush burns but is not consumed ...
  5. Nice. Is that a GMO (God made organism) sunflower on the left? It look like the sunflowers know something that one doesn't since they are all facing the other direction. Turn your eyes upon Jesus, and follow the Sun of Righteousness ...
  6. You got my Vote! - You've just been Polled ...
  7. What does "Israel" mean brother DaveW? Who overcame all things? Who is the "Prince" with God? Then see Revelation 3:21; Luke 11:22; John 16:33 Who is refusing to answer simple questions?
  8. God is outside of time and sees all time. He declares the end from the beginning. To Him it is all, already "finished" even from the foundation of the world. I asked you a question. Who is speaking in Hosea 11:1? Who did Matthew say was the "fulfilled" aspect of it? Go to Hebrews 3:6, Heb_3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. Jer_31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer_31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jesus is not only Israel, but also Judah (the Lion). You say Matthew doesn't say Jesus is Israel. He didn't have to. He cited Hosea 11:1, whose context declares the very name (Jesus has many names) of the "son" who came out of Egypt. Matthews state that Jesus is the real fulfilment, not Moses/Jacob of old. You do not seem to understand who the Everlasting/Eternal (aka New) covenant was made with and 'when'. It was made with the Son in eternity past, with Himself and the Father, witnessed by the Holy Ghost. The Everlasting Covenant [New, which existed before the 'old', even from eternity, for the Father and Son clasped hands in agreement, the Holy Ghost as Witness, should [when] sin [the mystery of iniquity] arise, they would work out the plan of Redemption, thus it is “the everlasting covenant” or the covenant of life and peace, or the counsel of peace, ratified by the blood of the Son of God Himself and by the Father in Heaven, see Psalms 89:3,28,34, 105:8; Isaiah 13:12, 42:6; Malachi 2:5 [Jesus is the True Levi, meaning attached unto His Father], 3:1; John 19:30 [he finished laying the foundation, the words were unto His Father], 17:24 [the agreement in eternity past was made, Jesus kept His word, performed His vows, and now the promise from the Father was to be fulfilled]; John 3:16; John 19:28; Hebrews 13:20; Revelation 13:8; Psalms 40:7-8; Hebrews 10:7-9; Psalms 116:14-18; Ezekiel 38:23; John 17:19; John 10:18; 8:28; Psalms 110:4; Zechariah 6:13, etc., etc. for surely as the Rainbow is above God's throne, so the covenant between Father and Son, witnessed by the Holy Ghost, is eternal, KJB] is God's, “I will ...”, His Promise; more on this in detail later, as needed. The 'old covenant' is not the same as God's 'my covenant', which we establish by Faith [Romans 3:31 KJB]. They are two things, not one, which will be demonstrated in thorough detail later, as needed. God's Ten Commandments are all perfect promises, without fault, more on this later, as needed.] It was 'ratified' by the blood of Christ Jesus, who fulfilled His vows, His side of the covenant. Psa_116:14 I will pay my vows unto the LORD now in the presence of all his people. Psa_116:18 I will pay my vows unto the LORD now in the presence of all his people, It was 'ratified' by the Father after Christ Jesus ascended the first time, and accepted the Selfless Sacrifice of the Son. Psa_61:5 For thou, O God, hast heard my vows: thou hast given me the heritage of those that fear thy name.
  9. Remember, I stated that scripture is my final authority in all matters of faith and practice. Mar_11:29 And Jesus answered and said unto them, I will also ask of you one question, and answer me, and I will tell you by what authority I do these things. Jesus is my example with those of hard hearts. While ye are of your father ...
  10. Time is almost finished. Do we reflect the lovely image of Jesus?
  11. It so does say brother DaveW. Right here. Who is speaking? Who inspired this text? Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. I know why you disagree. It has nothing to do with Matthew or Hosea.
  12. Matthew did not say a 'type'. Matthew, under inspiration of the Holy Ghost clearly says that Hosea 11:1 ("Israel", which is God's (my) "son") was "fulfilled" in Jesus Christ: Mat 2:15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. Can't get around that brother. You can 'say' it was 'fulfilled' in Moses and the peoples, but that is not what is stated by Matthew. Paul stated that Moses and the peoples was merely the type in 1 Cor. 10. 1Co 10:6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted. 1Co 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come. Jesus is the True Israel (the everlasting Covenant was made with Him in eternity, ratified at the cross and ascension, texts upon request), even as He is the True Adam, the True Levi, the True Solomon, the True David, the True Isaac, True Melchizedec; etc, etc. Would you like texts for those too? I do not say you question the scripture brother. I say you are in disagreement with the Holy Ghost inspired Matthew. I have to go with Matthew, and not anyone else. The Bible is my final authority. As for absurd, well that is your present opinion brother. Jesus is throughout the entire scriptures, in type, and in reality [Proverbs 40:7; Luke 24:27; John 1:45; John 5:39; Hebrews 10:7; Acts 3:18, 28:23 KJB, etc]. What does "Israel" mean brother DaveW? Who overcame all things? Who is the "Prince" with God? Then see Revelation 3:21; Luke 11:22; John 16:33
  13. Islam has a definite historical connection with Roman Catholicism, which may be documented for those those looking for further information. Just one quick short example is the "Ashtiname". The short listing. Comparison: Romanism & Islamism Romanism - Must be read in the officially recognized Latin Islamism - Must be read in the officially recognized Arabic Romanism - Main Country is Italy, a Peninsula facing to the West Islamism - Main Country is Arabia, a Peninsula facing to the East Romanism - Sunday worship, first day of the week - http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a3.htm Islamism - Friday worship, sixth day of the week - Al Jumu'ah 62:9-10 [see Exodus 20:1-17; Exodus 20:6; John 14:15; Deuteronomy 6:5; Leviticus 19:17-18] Romanism - Sun/moon monstrance in which the 'eucharist/host' is kept Islamism - Moon/Sun/or star symbol Romanism - 8 pointed star being a symbol of RC 'Mary' Islamism - 8 pointed star in Islam Romanism - Jerome's corrupted Vulgate [corrupted the true vulgate, the Italic], corrupted Sinaiticus, Vaticanus Islamism - Abu al Qasim's corrupted qur'an [corrupted with gnostic, talmudic, sources, etc] Romanism - Creeds, so-called 'church fathers', papal bulls, encyclicals, briefs, etc. Islamism - aHadiths, Sunnah, Tafsirs, Sharia [Islamic laws] Romanism - [Roman] Canon Law [natural law] Islamism - Sharia [Islamic law] Romanism - a combined Religion/State power Islamism - a combined State/Religion power Romanism - RC 'Mary' highly exalted to co-Mediatrix, hyper-dulia, etc and Immaculate conception dogma Islamism - Islamic 'Mary', see qur'an Maryam 19, and aHadith in which 'Mary' is 'not touched by satan' Romanism - gnostic connections, Shepherdof Hermas, Thomasine, Judasine, etc Islamism - gnostic connections, Barnabas, etc. baby 'Isa' speaks from under the womb, and cradle, and makes clay birds come to life, etc Romanism - continuing 'Mass', the unbloody sacrifice Islamism - continuing bloody animal sacrifices Romanism - no victory over sin, the Auricular confessional, penances, etc [works salvation, fasting, rosaries, etc] Islamism - no victory over sin, works salvation, the as-salat, wudu, fasting, pilgrimaages, etc Romanism - War - Crusades, Inquisition - aka Office/Curia of Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith Islamism - War - Jihad, a qur'an Al Tawbah or Bara'ah 9:5,29, etc Romanism - Vatican, Ultramontanism, all power in one man, popery Islamism - Caliphate, all power in one man, Mahdi, etc. a qur'an Al Nisa' 4:65, Al Ahzab 33:36 Romanism - Pope's sayings, councils sayings, traditions of men Islamism - Muhammad's sayings [aHadith], traditions of men Romanism - another Intercessor, RC 'Mary', the co-Mediatrix, co-Redemptrix, Popes, Priests, 'Saints', etc Islamism - Abu al Qasim Romanism - Important women, RC 'Mary', 'Fatima' [city, so-called miracle site] Islamism - Important women, Islamic 'Mary', Maraym 19, Fatimah the daughter of Abu al Qasim [Muhammad] Romanism - monkery, monasticism, etc Islamism - Khadija, Waraq bin Naufal, Nestor [Baeira, Pakhyras, Sergius the monk] see Hayatu'l-Qulub' by Abu Talib, or Al-Asbahani, Dala'il al-Nubuwah 1:173, or see the Jami' al-Tawarikh by Rashid al-Din Hamadani published in Tabriz, Persia, or see Ibn Hisham, Ibn Sa'd al-Baghdadi, or Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, or even just plain old Yusuf Ali notations on Baeira. Romanism - Pilgrimmages to Fatima, Lourdes, Vatican, Guadalupe, etc Islamism - Pilgrimmages, the greater and lesser hajj to Mecca, Medina, Jerusalem, Ka'bam, etc. Romanism - state of the dead - immortal soul/spirit theology, same as pagans, occult Islamism - state of the dead - immortal soul/spirit theology, same as pagans, occult Romanism - purgatory, limbo, etc Islamism - Barzakh, a waiting place on the other side of the as-sirat bridge, until judgment day Romanism - Eternal torments in hellfire/lake of fire, a never-ending, always increasing torment Islamism - Eternal torments [especially for women, as they are the ones to fill hell mostly] in a hellfire/lake of fire, always increasing, never-ending, in Islam there are 7 levels of Hell [Jahannam; Jahim, Jahannam, Sa'ir, Saqar, Ladha, Hawiyah, Hutamah] Romanism - Nuns/Habits/Monks/Cloistered Islamism - Hijab, Burkha, women cannot work, must stay in the house in a single room [a few exceptions], etc. Romanism - special exorcists Islamism - special exorcists, called the ruqyah; al-Tibb al-Nabawi Romanism - beads, 'the Rosary', the vain repetitious prayers, also monk chants, breath prayers, desert 'fathers' mysticism, etc, to deaden the mind, allowing more access to the voice of satan: "...as though they were listening to the very voice of the Blessed Mother explaining the mysteries and conversing with them at length..." [ON THE ROSARY; MAGNAE DEI MATRIS; Encyclical of Pope Leo XIII promulgated on September 8, 1892.] Islamism - beads, the Misbah, Tasbih, Sibha, having the same effect to deaden the mind, allowing more access to the voice of satan Romanism - Cantor, Intonation, Gregorian Chants Islamism - Muslim chants, qur'anic intonation [which means recitation] Romanism - earthly sanctuary at the Vatican, the Mass in Rome Islamism - earthly sanctuary, the Ka'baa in Mecca Romanism - Indulgences, forgiveness of sins, kiising pope's feet, etc Islamism - sins forgiven by 'good' [meaning Islamic] deeds, which wipe out 'bad' [means Islamic] deeds, kissing the idolatrous black stone inside the Yoni corner. Romanism - Washings for the Mass, with specifications, etc Islamism - Wudu, religious washings, with specifications, etc Romanism - claim earthly Jerusalem [a forever desolate city] for Catholicism Islamism - claim earthly Jerusalem [a forever desolate city] for Islamism Romanism - Captial - Rome, the self-styled and so-called 'eternal city' Islamism - Captial - Mecca Romanism - false understanding of angels, Michael, Gabriel and other numerous named angels in their sources, sandalfon, metatron, salthiel, saraquel, raphael, etc. Islamism - false understanding of angels, Michael, Gabriel and other numerous named angels in their sources, Israfel, etc. Romanism - Visionaries - Ignatius Loyola, etc [in a Cave] Islamism - Visionaries - Abu al Qasim [in a Cave, Hira] Romanism - private killer assassins, political rebellion creators, the Jesuits, Dominicans, Opus Dei, etc Islamism - Hashashins [assassins] Romanism - Religious Calendar - Lent, Easter, etc, etc. Islamism - Religious Calendar - Ramadan, etc, etc. Romanism - pagan practices accepted or taken over and 'baptized', all-saints day, equinoxes, etc Islamism - pagan practices, circling the Ka'baa, throwing stones at the shaytan, etc. Romanism - unscriptural food and drink allowances and forbidances [Leviticus 11; Deuteronomy 14; Acts 15; 1 Timothy 4:3 KJB] Islamism - unscriptural food and drink allowances and forbidances, under Abu al Qasim's Halal and Haram [and Makrooh] Romanism - etc. add your own Islamism - etc. add your own The two are mirrored of each other, a yin and yang, a so-called 'light' and 'dark', both in great error, yet the one [Islam] came out of the other, an attempt at an early eccumenical [Mecci] endeavor, that failed [Medini].
  14. Please, I beg you, again, 'sir' means 'lord'. Please do not call me that. 'EA' is ok, if you prefer to never use the word 'brother' with me (though my own heart aches, and suffers it). Matthew 2:13 KJB - And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him. Matthew 2:14 KJB - When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt: Matthew 2:15 KJB - And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son. Please notice that the scripture [KJB; which cannot be broken, John 10:35 KJB] by the Gospel writer, Matthew, under inspiration of the Holy Ghost [2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:21 KJB], is citing an Old Testament prophecy [Hosea 11:1 KJB], and claims its proper and actual fulfillment is in Christ Jesus [not Israel after the flesh, who [person [Jacob, son of Isaac] and nation [his physical children]] was merely a type [Koine Greek, 'τύπος', transliterated 'tupos'], an example, earthly, a shadow [Koine Greek, 'σκία', transliterated 'skia'] [Romans 5:14; 1 Corinthians 10:6,11; Philippians 3:17; Colossians 2:17; Hebrews 8:5, 10:1 KJB], while Jesus Christ is the anti-type [Koine Greek, 'ἀντίτυπον', transliterated 'anti-tupon', see also 1 Peter 3:21 KJB], substance, body [Koine Greek, 'σῶμα', transliteration 'swma' [thus 'soma'] [where 'w' is O-mega, not O-micron], reality, heavenly and Light [1 Corinthians 10:3-4; Colossians 2:17; Hebrews 8:5, 10:1 KJB]]. What prophet gave the prophecy? It was the prophet Hosea: Hosea 11:1 KJB - When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. According to the prophet Hosea, “Israel” is the [male, “him”] “child”, even the “son” of God [JEHOVAH, the Father], whom God “called” “out of Egypt”. Compare again to the words specifically used by Matthew in Matthew 2:13-15: "the young child", "into Egypt", "the young child", "him", "the young child", "into Egypt", "that it might be fulfilled" "which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet", "Out of Egypt", "have I called", "my son". To the words used in Hosea 11:1: “a child”, “him”, “called” “my son” “out of Egypt”. Who then according to Matthew and Hosea [under inspiration of the Holy Ghost] is really and truly “Israel” and the fulfillment of the coming out of Egypt. Is it 'Jacob, son of Isaac' [Israel after the flesh], or Jesus the Christ [Israel, after the Spirit]? While Israel after the flesh [Jacob, son of Isaac] was indeed called out of Egypt [in the days of Moses], this was not the truest fulfillment, but merely a shadow, a type, an example of the great plan of redemption, in miniature. Jesus is throughout the entire scriptures, in type, and in reality [Proverbs 40:7; Luke 24:27; John 1:45; John 5:39; Hebrews 10:7; Acts 3:18, 28:23 KJB, etc]. Jesus Christ, is the true person, Israel, the true Son of God the Father, who Matthew [under inspiration of the Holy Ghost], says was the fulfillment of the prophecy of Hosea. The New Testament passage explained the Old Testament passage. Who will say, “Not so.” unto the Holy Ghost? I warn, in love. I did not say so, the scripture [KJB] itself, said so, for scripture interprets scripture [Genesis 40:8; 1 Corinthians 2:13; Isaiah 28:10,13 KJB, etc], and it is God who defines His own word. What does "Israel" mean?
  15. I will ask anyway, even as Jesus asked those who came to him for answers. Jesus wanted them to have the answers. In Revelation 3:16, the scripture uses the word "lukewarm". How does one get "lukewarm"? In John 4:7 Jesus meets a "woman of Samaria". What is a "Samaritan"? Now for some helpful hints as you think upon the questions asked: In Revelation 17:15, "waters" are identified as "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues", and this is seen through the rest of scripture as well (for instance: Isaiah 17:12; Psalms 1:1-2 (along with Jude 1:13), 77:19). In scripture a "woman" (represents a 'city' or religious body, whether true (Rev. 12) or false (Rev 17)), see Jeremiah 3:14,20, 6:2; Ephesians 5:32; Revelation 17:18; Hosea 1:2, 2:2 and so on (Isaiah 54:5, 61:10, 62:5; 2 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:23-32; Song of Solomon 4:9,10,12, 5:1,2; Revelation 19:7, 21:2,3,9). Jesus finds (comes across) this woman outside of the city, thus in a wilderness area by a well. Jesus, being Israel, is Israel's (Overcomer's) Well, but asks the "woman" Joh 4:7 There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink. What was Jesus asking for? The same thing He desired on the Cross: Joh_19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. What was it? Natural water? No. Jesus was asking for living Faith: Mat_25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Mat_25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: Again, "water" is also symbolic of "faith": Joh_6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst. Did Jesus get His hunger & thirst quenched with the woman at the well? Joh 4:32 But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of. Joh 4:39 And many of the Samaritans of that city believed on him for the saying of the woman, which testified, He told me all that ever I did. Joh 4:40 So when the Samaritans were come unto him, they besought him that he would tarry with them: and he abode there two days. Joh 4:41 And many more believed because of his own word;
  16. I did say 'one thing at a time' and since such was mentioned in this thread, then the first place to begin is here. Where brother? Be specific please. http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-loud-cry-revelation-14-12/id5277051
  17. Then it seems to be a simple matter of difference of personality. I am not you brother DaveW, and my methods may not be yours (especially in cases you mention). Let's try one thing at a time then. In this thread, specifically, is there any 'false teaching' 'hid(den)' 'amongst it'. I will ask you to please point it out to me by scripture. For if I am in error upon any point in this thread, I expect to be shown from scripture (KJB) in the mouth of two or three witnesses. Therefore, please consider reading the material, take your time, no rush, and let me know when you have so completed reading the material. It would be very much appreciated. http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-loud-cry-revelation-14-12/id5277051 Apologizes for the merged response, this forum seems to do that. Not sure what to do about that.
  18. Are these questions and line of questioning, which seem to stalk me, because I stated I am not IFB, neither Baptist? Or is it because I have asked a question in another thread regarding the 1000 years (such as the Epistle of Peter mentions), or is there some other area where there is disagreement and this is causing friction?, my style of forums use, colours, other? or is it because I do not have share the same heart toward Seventh-day Adventist that some seem to carry here? (it would be better to simply start a new thread on the subject of SDA, and remain there, but if one expects me to participate therein, I expect to be read in response on why I differ) This may be of help to you - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-loud-cry-revelation-14-12/id5277051 I have called you brethren and mean it.
  19. Some surely is, some surely not. I stated that at the beginning of the OP. You have never posted pre-prepared material brother DaveW? Surely I can easily find out if this is so. - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-loud-cry-revelation-14-12/id5277051
  20. Jesus is truly Israel. Mat 2:13-15; Hos 11:1; Jer 31:33; Rom 9:6-8; Heb 2:13; Isa 8:16,18; Jhn 13:33, 16:33, 17:12, 18:9, 21:5; 1 Cor 15:46; 2 Cor 1:20; Gal 6:16; Heb 3:6, 8:8,10; Rev 3:21. How can we be sure? Well, let's go to the texts and ask some very simple questions. Hos 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. Who is this, "Israel" in Hosea 11:1 and how do we know? Further details may be seen here - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/sanctuary-psalms-thy-way-god/id14724670
  21. Brother Alan. You have asked me to leave your thread. I did so. I know there is a forum rule about staying on topic. I have answered you in the other thread. I will answer you here again, even though it is non-sequitur to the OP and topic thereof. Here is my religion according to scripture. The Bible (KJB) is the final authority in all matters of faith and practice, here is the text which demonstrates that Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. If you have issue with Seventh-day Adventist, I do not have that issue or issues that you seem to have. I would ask that you please attempt to remain on OP, which is how to win Muslims to Christ. If you disagree with an eschatological or prophetical point, that is fine, but I expect evidence from scripture, and not this present approach. I have studied very prayerfully and deeply. I disagree with you based upon scripture.
  22. [Part 01] Does Islam, accept/reject the written names from Adam to Seth, in their genealogical descendancy, along with their meanings? Here is the list, from Adam to Seth, as given in scripture [KJB] [as found given in Genesis 3-5; 1 Chronicles 1:1-4; Luke 3:33-38 KJB]: Adam -- Eve -- [Abel -- Cain] -- Seth -- Enos -- Cainan -- Mahalaleel -- Jared -- Enoch -- Methuselah -- Lamech -- Noah -- Shem. From my present sources, Islam, seems to accept the order given in Genesis, along with an 'Arabicized' spelling [though without the mention of "Eve" [simply given as 'Hawa/Hawwa' [meaning to help/support [as Genesis 2:20 KJB, "help meet for him"]; Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged 10 Volumes, PDF, pages 777, 1315, 1900], "Cain" [Qabil], and/or "Abel" [Habil] [both mentioned in Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged 10 Volumes, PDF, pages 1311-1320]: According to Ibn Ishaq's siratul Rasu'allah [the first classical work of the biographical life of Muhammad] [circa AD 765], page 3 [sectioned], we read of the Islamic genealogical line [seen in reverse from above, here]: "... [page 3] ... Sam, b. Nuh, b. Lamk, b. Mattushalakh, b. Akhnukh, ... b. Yard, b. Mahlil, b. Qaynan, b. Yanish, b. Shith, b. Adam (10).* ..." This is re-cited by Ibn Kathir, in his Abridged 10 Volume, Tafsir, PDF, page 1763-1764: "... to the people of the earth after Adam. His name was Nuh bin Lamak bin Matushalakh bin Khanukh. ... he was the son of Barad bin Mahil, bin Qanin bin Yanish bin Shith bin Adam, ..."; "... This lineage is mentioned by Muhammad bin Ishaq and other Imams who document lineage. ..." [Part 02] Does Islam, accept/reject the written names of the Family of Jacob [whose name was changed to "Israel" [Genesis 32:28; 35:10 KJB] by JEHOVAH [YHVH]], along with their meanings? [There are at least 3 listings in Scripture KJB, Genesis 29-30 & 35 & 41; 1 Chronicles 2; Revelation 7 KJB] Judah -- Reuben -- Gad -- Asher -- Naphtali -- Manasseh -- Simeon -- Levi [**] -- Issachar -- Zebulun -- Ephraim [*] -- Joseph -- Benjamin -- Dan [*] -- [Dinah ***] From my present Islamic sources, a Qur'an, Yusuf-Ali translation, Yusuf (Surah) 12 is named after "Joseph", see also Al An'am 6:84; Yusuf 12:4,7,8,9,10,11,17,21,22,(31),(42),46,(47),(50),51,(55),56,58,(62),69,76,77,80,84,85,87,(88),89,90, 94,99; Ghafir or Al Mu'min 40:34 "... Joseph ..." Tafsir of Ibn Kathir, Abridged 10 Volumes, PDF, page 613, I find mentioned "Lavi" [Levi]: "... The Children of Israel ... the offspring of Lavi (Levi) ..." Ibid., page 614, 2400, I find "Yahudha" (Judah): "... the offspring of Yahudha (Judah). ...", "... name was Yahudha (Judah). ..." a Qur'anic notation in Yusuf Ali's translation, notation 1752 on Yusuf 12:80, I find mentioned "Reuben", "Simeon", "Levi", "Judah" & "Benjamin": "... *1752 ... The eldest brother was Reuben. ... Judah, one of the elder brothers, being the fourth son, after Reuben, Simeon, and Levi, and of the same mother as these. It was Judah who stood surety to Jacob for Benjamin (Gen. 43:9) ..." Let's consider the meanings of these names, beginning with JEHOVAH Elohiym: JEHOVAH [God] Adam - 'red' [through earth/clay], 'the living soul', unique son of God Eve - 'life giver', 'the mother of all living' Abel - 'breath', 'brief', 'sorrow', 'keeper of the sheep/flock' Cain - 'Lance/Spear', 'posession', 'tiller of the ground', 'one who pierces the ground/earth' Seth - 'compensation', 'setting, in the place of [Abel], appointed' Enos - 'man', 'mortal' Cainan - 'possession', 'come to obtain' Mahalaleel - 'praise of God [El, Elohiym]' Jared - 'descent', 'coming down' Enoch - 'dedicated', 'who walked with God, and was not, for God took him' Methuselah - 'his death shall bring', 'man of the dart' Lamech - 'powerful', 'strength' Noah - 'comfort', 'giving of rest/peace' Shem - 'name', 'good name' [and the character thereof]. Let's read them together: JEHOVAH [God], through the 'red' of the beloved unique son, the living soul [Adam], gave life [Eve], by being pierced [Cain], and in the place of [Seth] mourning/sorrow [Abel], for mortal man [Enos], instead obtained [Cainan], the praise of God [Mahalaleel], by the descending/coming down in humility [Jared], being dedicated to/walking with God, and was later not found on earth, for God took up [Enoch], for whose death would bring [Methuselah], strength/vital force [Lamech], and comfort/rest/peace [Noah], so declaring the Good Name, the Character [Shem] [of JEHOVAH]. Providence [double entendre]. Those names read just like Revelation 12:1-5 KJB, written some 1400 years before AD 90. Now to the "children of Israel [Jacob]", which were named, under inspiration by JEHOVAH. First I will cite the two not listed in Revelation 7, do to other specific reasons: Ephraim - 'double ash heap', 'I shall be doubly fruitful' - see Genesis 41:52 KJB Dan - 'a judge', 'judge' - see Genesis 30:6 KJB In Revelation 7:5-8 KJB, citing a listing of the names of the 12 tribes of Israel in a specific order, we read: Revelation 7:4 KJB - And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Revelation 7:5 KJB - Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Revelation 7:6 KJB - Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Revelation 7:7 KJB - Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Revelation 7:8 KJB - Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. Let's see those names and their meanings together: Judah - 'I will praise the LORD [JEHOVAH]' - see Genesis 29:35 KJB Reuben - 'Behold, a son', 'he has looked upon me' - see Genesis 29:32 KJB Gad - 'Given good fortune', a 'troop' - see Genesis 30:11 KJB Asher - 'Happy', 'Happy am I' - see Genesis 30:13 KJB Naphtali - 'Wrestling', 'My wrestling' - see Genesis 30:8 KJB Manasseh - 'Causing to forget', 'Making me to forget' - see Genesis 41:51 KJB Simeon - 'Heard', 'God hears me' - see Genesis 29:33 KJB Levi - 'Joined to', 'attached me' - see Genesis 29:34 KJB Issachar - 'There is a recompense', 'he has purchased me' - see Genesis 30:18 KJB Zebulun - 'Exalted', 'a dwelling' - see Genesis 30:20 KJB Joseph - 'JEHOVAH has added', 'JEHOVAH will add to me' - see Genesis 30:24 KJB Benjamin - 'Son of the right hand', 'Son of his right hand' - see Genesis 35:17,18 KJB Therefore, let's read them together [I will give two forms]: I will praise the LORD [JEHOVAH] [Judah], for Behold, a Son!, (for) He looked upon me [Reuben], (and) granted a troop, very much good fortune [Gad]. Happy am I [Asher] (therfore), (because) my wrestling [Naphtali], God is making me to forget [Manasseh]. God hears me [Simeon] (and) is joined/attached unto me [Levi]. He has purchased/redeemed me [Issachar] a dwelling and lifted me up [Zebulun], (for) JEHOVAH has added to me [Joseph] (as surety), the Son of His right hand [Benjamin]. or alternatively Now, will I praise the LORD [JEHOVAH] [Judah]! Behold, a Son!; (for) surely the LORD looked upon my affliction [Reuben] (and) granted His graceful good fortune [Gad] (therefore) Happy/Rejoicing am I [Asher], (even though) with great wrestlings have I wrestled [Naphtali] (but) God is making me to forget all my toils [Manasseh] (for) the LORD has heard me/my (crying) [Simeon]. He is attached and/or ever with me (I am with you, He says to me) [Levi], (for) He has redeemeed/purchased me [Issachar], lifting me up, that He may dwell with me [Zebulun], (and so) the LORD (to demonstrate this godly love) added/gave to me [Joseph], the Son of His right hand [Benjamin]. Providence. The same, yesterday, to day and for ever. The same message, the same word. Luke 24:27 KJB - And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he [Jesus] expounded unto them [disciples] in all the scriptures [Old Testament, Genesis to Malachi] the things concerning himself. Does Islam accept these written names and their Hebrew meanings?
  23. I will then not tell you the remaining evidence. You are not ready to receive it.
  24. Could you show me an example of the first sentence? I have attempted to answer every question presented to me in all truth. Sure you can ask. :) The posts are original in a sense, since I have to reformat each for this forum from my own personal documents, and in many cases, add new material, delete material not pertinent, re-arrange material, re-colour, etc. I mean why would I want to have to re-write such? Kinda like a sermon, I keep my old notes around. - http://www.pearltrees.com/awhn/the-loud-cry-revelation-14-12/id5277051 If you consider the OP for this thread, I wrote: " The Epistles of Peter & Jude compared. The following is a restructured (for the forums, as the original is in a Table, and I apologize for having to re-present it this way, looks better in the Table) comparison of the texts of 1 & 2 Peter with Jude" That clearly stated that the material was coming from a pre-written source. That source is on my own HD (500 gig SSD), TD (64 gig dual port USB 3.0) and external HD (5TB USB 3.0), as well as from other mirrored drives (5TB) I have given away. As stated in my 'introduction' OP, I have stated that I share a lot, and in other places, such as the Apologiz-ing to Muslims thread, that I have personally researched and have 1,000's of pages on said religion. The same goes for that which is in the Bible.
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