Great Name... theif, so allow me to answer or attempt to answer, even though I amjust a Christian rather than a certified Baptist.

Left behind series is a pre tribualtion rapture series with that prophetic interpretation.. and so maybe that is where your confusion comes from.

On 8/17/2018 at 12:15 PM, Thief on the Cross said:

I was wondering what the veiws are as far as salvation after the rapture goes.    I guess I was a bit to influenced by the "left behind" movies.  Will people have to work for their salvation after the rapture?   All of my family members are lost , so this troubles me.    I realize this question may seem silly for someone who has been saved for 14 yrs.  I thought I knew the answer to this but have been hearing different things in past few years.   Thank you. 

For I would say from scriptures, all get saved at the Lords SECOND COMING, whether they worked and served HIM or did nothing and just went to HIM because Jesus saved them and not they themselves.. Because the good old Baptist belief that theres eternal security when we receive Jesus applies. Its not by works but by His saving Grace and sacrifice on the cross for us ,,,,,all, even the theif on the cross who didnt have time to do good works for the Lord, and yet still was promised and received ETERNAL LIFE and will be seeing His Saviour afterwards.

As for your family, even though endangering my stay here with an answer. I am compiled to give you one because of the Lords concern for you and THEM.

Ill just say the

LORDS MERCY endureth FOREVER

Its a truth

The Lord is longsuffering to uswards, not willing that any should... LOOK that one up at Bible Gateway KJV

IE, The place opposite heaven..... is not intended for those that go there to be permanent place forever, but can be temporary, as the Lord loves your family, each and every individual..... and if people are humble and learn their lesson in time, the GOOD BOOK seems to indicate they will not stay there, because the Lords MERCY endureth forever.... whether for the first or the LAST ..

IMO

And I shall not try to convince people otherwise who insist that unbelievers go to that place FOREVER. Some may have to stay there forever\m but the humble and those that receive His LOVE can come out of the pit......

50 minutes ago, Jordan Kurecki said:

Well I am a linguist. Baptist Bible Translators Institute graduate. I find it odd that you have now deceitfully changed your wording from “mistranslation” to misinterpretation when talking about Matthew 24. First you said it was a “mistranslation” and then when I call you to defend your statement you conveniently change your tune.

the bible is clear, no man knows the day or the hour. Now either show me how it’s mistranslated or stop with your heretical date setting. 

Deceit is a rather aggressive word.... besides I was not the first one to use the term mistranslation, if you look back at the thread. Someone stated that Revelation 11 was maybe a mistranslation....

I differ with you.. as mentioned and for the reasons as mentioned and the thread as produced

I believe Jesus did know ;past and future prophecy

As for the Greek, thats for you to study, most of my study and experience came from the mission field in proving that the WORD OF GOD can be trusted for me and my family. We all have that option I assume.

But congratulations on a good name. I have it to.. Jordan means 'descendiong judgment    SEE Crossing the Jordan

David means 'beloved... jay means just a shortended version of Jordan, as in 'J'

Nice fellowshipping with you Jordan....

2 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:

Oh...so this is still the day of Pentecost? Please notice the verse that YOU quoted. It says "this"...

...and why did you stop at verse 18?

I can go on as all Acts is consistent and verifies that the Holy Spirit came on Pentecost and remains our teacher and whisperer in our ears of Gods WORD, even til today and onward...

But heres more of Acts 2 as you requested

¹⁹ And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

²⁰ The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

²¹ And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

²² Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

²³ Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

²⁴ Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

²⁵ For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

²⁶ Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

²⁷ Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

²⁸ Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.

²⁹ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

³⁰ Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

³¹ He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

³² This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

³³ Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

³⁴ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

³⁵ Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

³⁶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

³⁷ Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

³⁸ Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

³⁹ For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

⁴⁰ And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

⁴¹ Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.

⁴² And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

⁴³ And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.

⁴⁴ And all that believed were together, and had all things common;

⁴⁵ And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

⁴⁶ And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,

⁴⁷ Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

2 hours ago, DaveW said:

The questions that you are asking are designed to cloud the issue and stop people looking at your position, and I will not therefore answer them. If you want to have that discussion then start your own thread about it and people who are interested can join you there.

If you believe that the Word of God is the perfect Word of God why did you in another thread suggest that there are mistranslations in it?

Is the Word of God that we have today the perfect Word of God or isn't it?

Is for instance the writing that Paul wrote the Word of God or not?

Or Peter's letters, or John's? 

And how about NOT misquoting the Bible as you have done here.

This is not saying there is more to the Word of God no matter how you cut it.

 

Misinterpretations in it Yes.....

But I dont know how anyone can say the Lord didnt say more than what is written in the Gospels. Everything Jesus said was the WORD OF GOD, he was literally the WORD OF GOD  SEE Revelation 19

And again, Yes I am a believer in the Holy Spirit teaching and whispering to us.I believe in the Holy Spirit and think the Lords Spirit is talking to us individually the Word of God. Each is responsible to hear HIM correctly... I never knew it was controversial; to believe in the Holy Spirit

1 hour ago, Jordan Kurecki said:

I would like to see David actually show us from the Greek how the verse in Matthew 24 is “mistranslated”. David how much Greek do you even know? 

Nah.. you go ahead, I have enough trouble with English as is, Im a science type and science graduate and never went to a seminary, just heard from the Lord in the great OUTDOORS of British Columbia.

Im not a linguist and believe the KJV translators did a good job in putting it into understandable exact English. Some miks-interpret it, even then.. oh well thats their choice and their responsibility. Onward Christian soldiers

1 hour ago, Alan said:

"All scripture is given by  inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." 2 Timothy 3:16 & 17

The Bible, the Authorized Version of 1611, is perfect, or complete. 

The Christian, the man of God, does not need any other vision, addition, prophecy, or instruction from any other man, or denomination, or "prophet," to be "perfect."

All of our doctrines, 100 %, are to be taken from the Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible. All of the extra-biblical visions, instruction, prophecies, and teachings of the modern Charismatics, false teachers, are in error and are causing confusion in the churches.

Yes, I have always used the KJV, and memorised about three thousand verses previously.. Good for the soul and those we witness too, should know the exact verses on which to trust in their salvation from the Lord.

Yes, it furnishes you for every good work because then you have the power to be preachers and missionaries for Jesus.

1 hour ago, DaveW said:

I also

Personally, I not only believe Matt 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

I also believe Rev 22:

18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

 19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

It certainly seems to say that you shouldn't take away from God's Word, and you shouldn't add to God's Word, and it seems a certain someone wants to suggest that parts of the Bible are "mistranslated" at the very least, and now he wants to add to the Word of God........

Hmmmmmm.

 

No dont take away from the words of Revelation and discount it and say it isnt prophecy..... totally agree

Dont change them, learn from them the events and **** as stated, including Revelation 11. Bel;ieve and trust in all of it

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/RevelationsTimeline.html

Good reply, from your point of view. Thanks..as it seems anyone can be saved as you mention. I agree...and I quess from what you are saying anyone can be a preacher, and tell others about the power and saving Grace of Jesus if done outside of our local area, I agree. I would assume that means they would be missionaries away from home, a small semantic difference in my opinion... but whatever.... a missionary of Jesus never the less. Thanks John.

Gpt as lot of smoke there in Spokane, did you find Edgecliff from experience or from a map,

Gpt tp f;y..whoops..got tpo fly whoops not much of a typer GOT TO FLY

Can only Baptists be saved ?

Can only Baptists become 'missionaries for Jesus' ?

Yup, the Lord is still speaking, as He sent the Holy Ghost to us after His ascension..

Acts 2 King James Version (KJV)

2 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

² And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

³ And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

⁴ And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

⁵ And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

⁶ Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

⁷ And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

⁸ And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

⁹ Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

¹⁰ Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,

¹¹ Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

¹² And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?

¹³ Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

¹⁴ But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

¹⁵ For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

¹⁶ But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

¹⁷ And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

¹⁸ And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

End of the excerpt from the WORD OF GOD

I believe it, dont you all believe it. And do notice, the words of Joel, the prophet, as I was mentioning earlier. Thank you Jesus for your clear and concise answer.

Dont you all believe this WORD OF GOD ?

Dave

Do consider, answering my questions first, before asking me the same ones.

I do have another one for you.... but allow me to wait before we start a mutual question and answer discussion or fellowship in the Word get together.....

But as I always try to answer more and more and more, as directed by the Lord, even before you start answering.... Thanks in advance

4 hours ago, DaveW said:

You still are using vague wording....

But do you believe that everything that is recorded in the Bible is the Word of God? (qualifiers from others above notwithstanding).

Can you say, with me, and with others here that every word of the Bible from the first "In" to the last "Amen" is the complete and perfect inspired and preserved Word of God?

Very clear, very straight forward. Yes everything recorded in the Bible.... is the Word of God... as mentioned many times earlier.

Can you say, with me, and with others here that every word of the Bible from the first "In" to the last "Amen" is the complete and perfect inspired and preserved Word of God?

Yes, with a qualifier.... the Lord is still speaking And the Holy Spirit is still teaching and whispering to us, and Yes, Joel 2;28 and Acts 2 continues as our young men and women and old men and women are still hearing and seeing from the Lord, and that would be the new Word of God given to our LAST GENERATION....

The second qualifier being that.. ^{John 21 ...25} And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.? Amen !

In other words, the Lord is a great speaker and talker and continues to speak and continues to act and answer His people.... so if it is allowed, I would say the WORD OF GOD is not limited to just the Bible but is a larger volume than just the Bible. For we can not limit the Holy One of Israel.... IMHO.

There I went an answered your questions that you were suppose to answer. So... Can you say with me and others that the Lord is still speaking and that the Holy Spirit is still teaching and whispering to us. Or have they stopped speaking and teaching and whispering to us... The Lord IMO will be speaking and talking with us on into ETERNITY and Beyond. Lets have discernment and hear from HIM...IMHO. Now whats your opinion rather than just asking more and more questions. Take time out to consider answering. Thanks.

Love in Jesus, our mutual Saviour and KING

David

PS) And do consider thinking through what people really believe, for their actions show what they really believe, whereas mere mental ascent to words doesnt always dictate they will follow the mental ascent they have given.  As Jesus said, If we do His doctrine then we can know the doctrine... If we havent lived the doctrine and forsaken all and picked up our cross daily and followed Him to the ends of the Earth, our mental acceptance of His Words or directions might not be as important and valid as us, obeying and doing and knowing His WORDS and doctrine. Amen ?

Much work to do today, have a good one brethren, great fellow shipping with you.

I believe in the whole Bible.... and even more importantly obeying the whole Bible, by doing it and becoming a missionary for Jesus.

Do you think the Holy Spirit is still whispering and teaching

Do you think the Lord is still talking /

Do you think men can see visions and women dream dreams and old men hear from the Lord, or is that in the past.

I answered you can you answer my simple questions.

Isnt fellowshipping in the word fun and beneficial ?

Ill see ya all in the morning, you'll gotta sleep now.... but lets all participate and all of us answers these questions, rather than just me.... Lets all get involved and have some real fellowship of the Spirit. Lots to pray about and even more to do.

On 3/15/2012 at 9:35 PM, Wilchbla said:

I think Osteen's mouth is frozen into place in the shape of a smile. There is actually a neurological condition caused by smiling too much where the smile gets frozen into place. It's common among Japanese businessmen who are fake smiling all the time.

Yup I agree with you.

But Joel telles'em what they want to hear...and they want to hear they are going to get blessed and prosperous ......and although i dont like classifications and labels..hes all  the godliness is gain theology. No suffering and pain, just God will bless you if you come to my Houston church and put some money in the box to keep up the huge mortgage etc... or read my Osteen Books for a nominal

. People love to hear that they will be getting blessed and more prosperous in time if they just keep a comin...

Just my opinion from what I have seen, and Yes that smile is so fake...he even says he learned to preach not from the heart but from practicing before a mirror.

While you all consider your answers as to whether the Holy Spirit is still whispering and teaching and whether or not the Lord is still speaking His Words to any of us ?

I should clarify my statement a little more, as I am a believer in ALL the Bible , but even more so a believer in us,  not just mental ascent to the Bible and the Lords principles, but doing them.

^{Jesus said we had to do His will to understand His will and words..}

 ^{John 7 ...17} If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

He told this to the scribes and pharisees, that kept asking HIM questions... WE learn by doing, we learn and KNOW by doing what the Lord said to do. We dont learn and know by sitting back and discussing words as if just mental ascent is sufficient.

WE have to forsake all, and give all and follow Jesus to the ends of the world, until death do us part. WE have to become dsiciples and missionaries for Jesus rather than just acknowledge that the Lords WORDS are true. We have to experience them to KNOW they are true. The WORD has to be tried and tested by us, to truly be in us.

IMHO

Actually I dont know a Protestant or even a Catholic Church system anywhere that doesnt say they believe in every word of God, unless you know of one. Different denominations and churches have different bibles, but they all say they believe in the Bible.

So Yes, I am a believer in us doing the WORD OF GOD, more than just the first step of acknowledging the WORD of God. If you believe it then do it... Thats proof to me that you believe in the WORD OF GOD.

TTL I shall see more of us on the mission field where the harvest is great. Amen? Amen !

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: I agree with my statement above... and a different one where I stated I believe in all the prophets of the Lord. For All prophecy has to mesh together in ONE, Therefore we have to consider all prophecies from all the prophets..

Cant get rid of a past

So this is my question to you all..

The above verse, does it mean the Lord is still speaking to us, or some of us somewhere, or has He stopped altogether everywhere.  Is He speaking no more, or has the Holy Spirit stopped whispering to us individually ? You answer then I will give you my opinion...

This word fellow shipping is exciting and fun.

Especially when we all get involved and ask and answer questions personally and compare answers.

Very clear......so let me repost, from the Creation Board what I answered there.. thats surely enough answering for ya.

As mentioned I believe Jesus and all His prophecies even though some may mistranslate them or one of them...

I believe Jesus knew history, (Fulfilled Prophecy)and knew current events happening to HIM (Messianic Prophecy) and knew the future, meaning End Time Prophecy.

I believe in Revelation as written by the Lord, I believe in Zechariah as written by the Lord, I believe in Jeremiah as he talked about our End Time.

Please read 2 Olive Branches for details, but please just post prophetic scriptures, rather than posting my subjectively. Thanks

IHF

David

IE.. I believe in Isaiah..

This is a Creation and Science thread, lets do get back to the TOPIC.. Thanks

IE some people pick and choose what they want to believe...I believe in all of it....even though some mis-interpret it. IMO and have never become missionaries as the Lord told us to do.... I prefer testing and proving the truths of the Lord on the field and in person rather than just a mere mental ascent to a concept.

John 6..if any man will do the doctrine of the Lord..HE SAID, then they will know whether the doctrine is of the Lord. Amen ?

Thats enough, go ahead without me, on your discussion fellowship. Thanks for inviting me into the fellowship of the WORD.

Ill be working on the Staff, Rod, Branch, Pillar, Candlestick,

Lots to do...

IMO

David

Ill repeat my answer there, from HERE.

But as mentioned this TOPIC is Creationism not the Bible ?

I would also hope you answer questions I ask of you ?

Mutual discussions are much better tyhan one way ones... IMO

As for HERE I assume all of us agree that evolution is a con and a deception and unscientific....... yet if some aren;t up on science, I can answer your questions with true science, as the Lord created all true sciences, and laws and all things.

I also know the physics and math and template of life that he used, as it is a discovery of science... and our Christian scientists of the past have discovered them.

Blessed be our Creator for He is GOOD

Wait lets go back slightly to Zechariah, the great End Time Prophet

CHAPTER SIX of the WORD OF GOD

¹² And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The Branch; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord:

¹³ Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

It says, or the Lord stated that THE BRANCH is a man, and he shall grow up...rather than be a reincarnation as some believe the 2 END TIME prophets will be... and he shall build the temple... Yes, the Jews think the Messiah will build the temple, as they dont believe in Jesus, and want a different Messiah to build their temple..the 3rd Temple. But notice that the counsel of peace is between them BOTH. Again confirming two end time leaders and not just one. A king and a priest. BOTH

Anyway, the BRANCH is a consistent repeated prophetic man that we should account for in prophecy, and as we have seen from different prophets, there are TWO BRANCHES, TWO OLIVE BRANCHES... and maybe even described as two sticks.

Do give me five minutes to copy and paste this research thread on WORD so as to save it for myself in case it disappears...

What about Ezekiel, he was a major end time prophet.. does he confirm the words of the other prophets.... Of course.

^{Ezekiel 37}

¹⁵ The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

¹⁶ Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

¹⁷ And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. (TWO STICKS becoming one, with the same people uniting)

¹⁸ And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

¹⁹ Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

²⁰ And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

²¹ And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

²² And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

²³ Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

²⁴ And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

Interesting, but we need more confirmations not just Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel and John. To get an accurate interpretation, we need multiple references and all must agree cohesively together as ONE.

Ahh we should have read further from the WORD OF GOD as written by Jeremiah

¹⁹ And the word of the Lord came unto Jeremiah, saying,

²⁰ Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

²¹ Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.

OK. the Lord seems to have a rule, a separation of power, one governmental, or kingly held in check by the prist, or HIGH Priest.a

David had the Levites or lets be more specific and say Nathan, the prophet to correct King David of Old when he went astray...

So consider that a End Time King David is possible and probable considering prophecy.... as we do know there are two prophets or witnesses in Revelation 11, and Revelation 11 is the WORD of GOD.

Read Psalms to see that King David was promised in his lineage from his loins, a descendant that would rule after the departure of King David...

And unless you know one that ruled, I would suggest there is a Christian one coming up, not from heaven but from earthly ancestry connecting up somehow someway with King David of Old.

Jeremiah 33

¹⁴ Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

¹⁵ In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

¹⁶ In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness.

¹⁷ For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

End of the word of God.... excerpt

Two houses Israel and Judah as when King David of Old, joined them together as their KING, But there is a connecting exact word called the BRANCH.... at least one branch...a king or leader or prophet branch.... what was the other branch....and if in the End Time as with an End Time King David what would their responsibility be.

David had a nathan, Zerubbal had Joshua the high priest. But lets not make any definite conclusions but study study study

Who they represented in Zechariahs day is written therein.. Joshua and Zerbuabal from my memory, so Yes lets check out whether there is one or two candlesticks...

Lets go back a chapter though and read the WORD of God about the BRANCH, and then the 2 Branches

Zechariah 3

⁸ Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the Branch.

OK, so Joshua was not Moses, Joshua who had great fath, along with his Caleb, the two younger generation spies, but in Zechariahs era.

So lets study further about the Two Branches, they are not divine, and not Jesus, Jesus was the vine, and NOT a mere branch. Jesus was God. The 2 Branches are servants to the Lord...just as we humans now are mere servants to our Master Jesus.

As mentioned I believe Jesus and all His prophecies even though some may mistranslate them or one of them...

I believe Jesus knew history, (Fulfilled Prophecy)and knew current events happening to HIM (Messianic Prophecy) and knew the future, meaning End Time Prophecy.

I believe in Revelation as written by the Lord, I believe in Zechariah as written by the Lord, I believe in Jeremiah as he talked about our End Time.

Please read 2 Olive Branches for details, but please just post prophetic scriptures, rather than posting my subjectively. Thanks

IHF

David

IE.. I believe in Isaiah..

This is a Creation and Science thread, lets do get back to the TOPIC.. Thanks

That concerned the Romans coming and burning down the Temple, to get the gold and remove the temple worship of the scribes and pharisees in hopes their rebellion would be put down for they were a rebellious lot as prophesied by Moses.

That prophecy is in the first four or five verses of Mathew 24, if I am allowed to state this. For even the disciples were tempted to worship a place and a building or temple rather than the living Temple which was before them. .

For the religious people also mis-understood Jesus reference to DESTROY this temple and in three days I will raise it up.... and with their misunderstanding had a false witness against Jesus, saying Jesus said, He would destory the 2nd Temple of the Jews. NO Jesus was referring to his own body, for He was the Temple of God, made of living stones.

IIALTST

David

Lets get off this thread.... and go to 2 Olive Branches, so no one gets offended... Thanks

Please tell me, which word I used which was offensive so I dont use it again, if anyone can recall. . Just use ***** to cover the euphamism... or whatever it was that offended. Ast a direct quote blotting out the four letter word I supposedly said, would be of great clarification to me rather than someones memory. The Edit feature, gives a dateif I edited it out, so I wouldnt be able to edit without it being duly noted.

Or you can do it in a private message and state the quote or sentence.... and *****

Anyway I dont want to offend with a word or euphanism... the word I was sent I never ever use in any of my writings which makes it quite the mystery.