Wayfaring Stranger

2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

The claim that Catholics canonized the bible is false!  The bible was completed during the lifetime of the 12 apostles who helped to write it under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost.  The church at Antioch was the church that saw to the scriptures being written and distributed.  History shows that most Baptistic churches had all or nearly all of the books of the bible before the Catholics even came into existence.  

There are so many verses in the scriptures itself that prove the popery in no way canonized the bible.  Besides, they've rejected God's preserved Word and replaced it with their own and place the traditions of men above scripture as well.  All works of the devil.  The history of the Catholic church itself proves that it is a work of the devil.

I'll let others chime in with scripture as it's time for dinner now in my home.

When you have time do you mind linking anything on the canon of the Bible being completed before the Catholics (claim to have) created the canon? I'm honestly curious as I haven't ever heard that before.

Thanks to those who answered my previous question about the Lord's Supper and confession. I do have another question. 

It is standard, accepted history that the Catholic Church put the books of the Holy Bible together. This is a common Catholic talking point when debating Protestants (I understand Baptists do not consider themselves Protestant, but it is a catchall term) and one I've used in the past, is that the Catholic Church put the Bible together via the Holy Spirit so how can non-Catholics claim the Roman Church is un-Biblical? How do Baptists square the idea they are the closest to the New Testament churches if they didn't put the Bible together and the Roman Church did? Why would the Lord use an organization many Protestants and Baptists believe is the Whore of Babylon to put together His Scriptures? 

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Thank you for the response. For most of the past 11 years I've this yearning for...mysticism I guess you could say. Esotericism. I think the Lord is revealing to me that not all things mystical or "spiritual" are good or Godly. The rather "plain" nature of Baptist theology and worship lost it's flavor with me and I went searching only to find myself parched in a land of shallow wells. I guess I have much spiritual growth to do, which is ironic because I considered myself spiritually advanced, but I was just a dog chasing my own tail.

I think that a non-literal Genesis creation account causes theological issues. If the wages of sin are death, but death and corruption were present prior to the fall of mankind through Adam and Eve according to evolutionists. Darwinian evolution is a whole metaphysical and philosophical worldview diametrically opposed to Christian metaphysics and philosophy. While microevolution is a fact and an observable reality, macroevolution is usually the first step down the steps of descent into atheism. I never questioned God until I questioned the creation account in Genesis and started to drink the poison of neoplatonic Darwinian evolution. In fact one of the impetuses for me to convert to Catholicism in high school was the fact that Catholicism "accepted science."

I posted these questions in another Baptist forum but didn't get any much response so I'm looking forward to your answers:
 

As I stated in my introduction thread I have some questions regarding theology. They basically revolve around doctrines of transubstantiation and priestly confession. 

1. Transubstantiation: 
What is the Baptist view of Luke 22 19-21 and John 6:
"50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.

51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

52 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever."

After 10 years in Catholicism that seems rather clear and seems to strongly support transubstantiation. What is the Baptist refutation and answer for this?

2. Priestly confession:
John 20:
"21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained."
It seems to rather strongly suggest the ability of priests to forgive and retain sins. What is the Baptist interpretation?
 

Hello everyone. I'm a married man with a daughter and a child on the way(!) rapidly approaching 30. I currently reside in Indiana. 

I grew up a Baptist and converted to Catholicism 11 years ago as a senior in high school. For the better part of the last decade I've spent time in and out of the Catholic Church and have gone through several religious "phases" one could say. A few months ago I made the decision that I was done forever with Catholicism. I've come to realize through hours of prayer, study, and reading that their version of history just simply doesn't add up and their theological claims (i.e. papal infallibility) simply do not add up either. I immediately started looking at Orthodoxy, but I've begun to realize that Orthodoxy has many theological shortcomings as well and operates very similar to Catholicism but with an Eastern "mystical" sheen to it.

I've felt (for some time, through the "still small voice") that I'm being called home to my roots. Called back, not to a "denomination" but perhaps to faithful obedience to the Bible and to the Word of God made flesh.

I am still seeking and trying to discern the voice of God, so I will have questions. I hope no one takes my questioning or searching as challenging or disrespectful. I look forward to learning and growing spiritually. 

God Bless