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Not to offend anyone, but personally I think It's silly to have so many different Baptist churches. Is this what God would want?

Just now, Roselove said:

Thank you! I truly appreciate it! 

Their names are: Arthur, Bob, Phillip, Jacob, Madelyn, Aaron, Carolyn, Katie, Carley, Aiden, David, Miguel, and Taj.

Ok we will be praying and believing. Keep us posted.

1 minute ago, Roselove said:

Very true!!

If you give me some first names of those in your life that need prayer, my wife and I would be happy to include them with our own prayers.

1 minute ago, Roselove said:

Indeed, they have a lot of blasphemous viewpoints. I don't even understand how you can associate with the Bible and think such twisted things. It makes me very sad, for them..

They are deceived and need our prayers as well.

On 7/1/2017 at 5:29 PM, Roselove said:

Update: I found out my dr. Is a Mormon. So I suppose he beleives in God, but he's in a very messed up "denomination ", if you can even call it that. I don't beleive Mormonism is a true Christian group, because of some of the crazy things they believe. 

My wife was a former Mormon. Mormonism is a false religion. They believe Jesus is their older brother and nothing more. They do not believe He is God the Son.

They have a myriad of unscriptural beliefs.

1 hour ago, Celina Capalad said:

It's so hard to find a church these days. 
I've been a christian for almost 7 years and I did find a church who believes the weighty doctrines right from the bible, I stopped going there because the sermons are always about tithes and material blessings. 

I just see people with religion there. 

Also, during afternoons where the pastor will somehow discuss and study the bible with us, he mentioned a couple of things that had no support at all. 
I researched about it and it isn't really supported or anything. He firmly believes that RCC made Islam because of a specific Jesuit priest. 
It hasn't been proven yet. But either way, it doens't matter. They're both false religions. 

Also during Sunday Schools, one brother discussed the book "Purpose Driven Life". 
The church's statement of faith is good but I don't understand how the people would not really believe what it says it believes. 

Most Baptist churches here read John MacArthur and John Piper, meaning they are Calvinistic. 

If not, Christians you'd meet attend Victory Churches (Steve Murrell) and CCF.. both are megachurches. 

God knows christian friends are important. 

 

Good post. You hit some good points and are so right about it being hard to find a good church anymore. I hope this doesn't discourage you as you are a somewhat new Christian. Keep praying about it. There are still some churches out there that are bible believing, bible teaching.

Whenever I come across free books in a library and other places, if I see books like Purpose Driven Life that have false teachings, I toss them out so that others won't read it and get deceived.

3 hours ago, swathdiver said:

Then you don't mind moving from non-fiction to fiction?  ALL of the modern versions are based on the fraudulent Sinaiticus and non-existant Septuagint.  There is no chain of custody for the Septuagint.  The Sinaiticus was written on the Isle of Patmos around 1843, it has no earlier chain of custody.

Whereas the Masoretic text was quoted by our Lord and Savior Himself and thousands upon thousands of manucripts that make up the Received Text can be traced all through history.

Those phony bibles might contain the word of God here and there but they are not THE word of God.  It's like drinking coffee with arsenic in it.  Designed by the devil to lead you astray.  The weakest Christians are those who foolishly cling to their phony bibles.  They hardly grow in grace and are surrounded by false converts who know little better than they.

The KJV still outsells the NIV.  It's #2 but not #1.

Yep, I know where the modern versions come from. I spent a lot of time arguing against them on another site forum and a bunch of christians jumped on me and tried to skin me alive.

2 hours ago, swathdiver said:

For the English language, anything other than the King James Bible.

What I see happening is the subtle watering down of the scriptures by many of these modern versions. However, I anger a lot of Christians on some of these site forums when I say this.

I do prefer the KJB, but will read other ones from time to time.I am old enough to remember when the King James was the bible of most churches. Then the NIV came along and the rest as they say is history.

Just now, No Nicolaitans said:

No sir; I didn't forget.

What was the reason for sending them unto the Jews only in Matthew 10? What was meant to be accomplished? 

What were the circumstances; in which, the Lord said what he did in Matthew 15? Why did he say it? Who was he speaking to when he said it? What was the outcome? 

Why was the early church witnessing only to Jews? Have you not seen what resulted from their preaching "to the Jews only" (Acts 11:19) in the very next verse and continuing through the end of the chapter? 

Regarding Peter and Cornelius...what ONE part of the law did Peter acknowledge he had always kept? According to Peter's own words, what ONE specific thing did he learn from the vision? According to the account, who knew that it was unlawful for Jews to company with people of other nations? What significance does that hold? Does Acts 10:43 sound like it was spoken by someone who didn't know Gentiles could be saved? 

Yes, a little study is a wonderful thing. Deeper study is even better. :)

If you wish to start a new topic on this that be great, but this is about repenting and I will not derail the thread anymore.

5 minutes ago, DaveW said:

And you forget that Jesus said:

Mat 28 :19  Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Notice the "all nations" in there? Wonder what that means?????

Nope, didn't forget, The gospel most certainly has been preached to all nations.But the NT church was slow to preach it to gentiles and it was mostly by the apostle Paul.

Anyway, this is for another thread :)

3 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

one of those fake Bibles 

Which bibles are fake?

23 hours ago, No Nicolaitans said:

 

If you read Peter's sermon in Acts 2, it's evident that he preached the gospel; which is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ. The majority of what is recorded of his sermon has to do with that.

How could the Jews repent of killing Christ? They couldn't go back and "unkill" him. So, there was actually something else they were to repent of. It's there...in the text.

 

 

Who was Peter talking about when he said there were things that Paul wrote which were hard to be understood? Was he talking about himself? No, he's very clear about who has a hard time understanding the writings of Paul...and it's not just Paul's writings...it's also "the other scriptures".

2 Peter 3:16

As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

As to the "mystery", there are several "mysteries" that Paul wrote about. The only time that I know of; in which, he refers to the "mystery of the gospel", is in Ephesians 6:19. However, when taken with the whole of Ephesians and its many references to "the mystery", the context is clear that he's speaking about the church...both Jew and Gentiles together as fellowheirs.

It's also interesting to note that when Paul mentions this "mystery" which was kept hidden, his is telling how he received knowledge of "the mystery". Which is, he received his knowledge of "the mystery" by direct revelation. However, Paul wan't the only one who knew about "the mystery"...he just received his knowledge of it in a different way.

Ephesians 3:3-6

3 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

The other apostles (and prophets) new of the mystery too. It wasn't just given to Paul; it's just that the method of how the mystery was revealed was different for Paul than the other apostles and prophets.

One last thing...

What were some of the very last things that Christ told the apostles (including Peter) before he ascended to heaven?

(Matthew) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,

(Mark) Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

(Luke)Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations

...and what was the very last thing that Christ told the apostles (including Peter) right before he ascended to heaven?

(Acts) But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Sounds like Peter knew that Gentiles would be included to me. :)

You forget that Jesus told the apostles NOT to go to the Gentiles, but to the lost sheep of Israel.  (Matt 10:6-8)

Matthew 10:5-6: “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying:  "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Jesus Himself said he was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel. (Matt 15:24)

It took a while for the early church to recognize that salvation was available to the Gentiles. The Jewish Christians who fled the persecution in Jerusalem went into the Gentile regions of Phoenicia, Cyprus and Antioch, but they were “spreading the word only among Jews”(Acts 11:19)

Read the story of Cornelius. Peter did not want to go to this man's house because he was still keeping the law refusing to touch anything unclean, but God had to open his eyes about the Gentiles.

Yes, eventually the Gospel was preached to all the world.

   A little study is a wonderful thing. :)

37 minutes ago, DaveW said:

Sounds luke you are saying salvation is different for Jews? That Peter and Paul preached different things?

Nope, not saying salvation is different for the Jews today. There is only ONE WAY: Jesus Christ. Do a google search and compare what Peter said to what Paul taught.

Jesus told the apostles to go only to the lost sheep of Israel and not to Gentiles. Peter admits later that Paul taught things "hard to understand." However, he validates Paul's apostleship and tells Paul and Barnabas to continue to go to gentiles with the gospel and that he (Peter) would continue to preach to the Jews. It was only until God ordered Peter to go to the gentile household of Cornelius, that Peter finally understands that God had extended salvation to the gentiles.

Did Jesus teach Peter about His death, burial and resurrection? Or did the risen Christ teach this "mystery" only to Paul?

Anyway, this is off topic sorry

15 hours ago, Invicta said:

The gospel to the Jews is the same as that to the gentiles. 

Acts 2:38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39  For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Those that are afar off are us.  even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Yes, of course there is only one Gospel whereby we must be saved. However, the Jews understand the gospel of the kingdom which is Christ their king setting up an earthly kingdom in Jerusalem. This what the Jews are still waiting for. Do you not know that Peter accused the Jews of killing Christ because they could have had their King if Israel had accepted Him.

Paul on the other hand does not say: "repent and be baptized. He says BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ.

Peter never says anything about the power of the cross for salvation. He tells the Jews they killed the Christ. The Jews are stricken by this and ask what should they do. Peter says repent of it and get baptized.

so many miss this but I sat under a wonderful bible teacher who had the gift of teaching.

17 hours ago, John Yurich said:

I am currently unemployed and residing in a homeless shelter for men in the small town I reside in where every men does not have to leave in the morning but can remain on the premises all day. Other homeless shelters in the big  town 20 miles away kick out the homeless in the morning. I am only getting 97 dollars a month in EBT Cash Support and 30 dollars a month goes to pay the cell phone bill. But I am looking for a full time Data Entry or other clerical position in the small town I reside in. If I am not yet a member of that Baptist church I attend on Sunday mornings then I do not see the reason to put more than a nickel in the collection plate at a time.

I am very sorry to hear that John. I will pray for you that your situation improves.

46 minutes ago, swathdiver said:

 

You are still wrong, confusing repentance for salvation with repenting for sin.  They are two different things.  I sin daily and repent of my sins to keep fellowship with the Lord.

When I made repentance to God and put my trust in Christ at salvation, my thinking about sin changed, I no longer took pleasure in sin, my heart was regenerated and given new desires, namely, a desire to please the Lord.  That's not works.

Read the article if you're at all interested in getting right on this subject.  Your comments reveal that you did not read it through and through.

If your local New Testament church teaches what you've written, you need to find another church and get right with the Lord.  If you're not a member of a NT church, you need to be, and need to be to get right with the Lord.

I agree that we should confess those sins we commit daily as it does affect our walk with God. If we are saved, we confess them, not to receive forgiveness as we have already been forgiven by the shed blood of Christ, but  It can hinder our prayers and fellowship with God.

I've been thinking about this a bit more and I am coming to realize that it's a false teaching that's been making the rounds that we do not need to repent of current sins.Heaven can be like brass if these sins build up and are never confessed.

44 minutes ago, swathdiver said:

More Ruckmanism/Protestant garbage.  No sir, the bible teaches one way to heaven for all, for all times.

You are still wrong, confusing repentance for salvation with repenting for sin.  They are two different things.  I sin daily and repent of my sins to keep fellowship with the Lord.

When I made repentance to God and put my trust in Christ at salvation, my thinking about sin changed, I no longer took pleasure in sin, my heart was regenerated and given new desires, namely, a desire to please the Lord.  That's not works.

Read the article if you're at all interested in getting right on this subject.  Your comments reveal that you did not read it through and through.

If your local New Testament church teaches what you've written, you need to find another church and get right with the Lord.  If you're not a member of a NT church, you need to be, and need to be to get right with the Lord.

Nope, don't follow Ruckman or Protestantism. Only the holy Scriptures.Read Acts again and see what Peter said; He was addressing: "Ye men of Israel.

30 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

I knew an Independent Fundamental Baptist church who got a new Pastor who swore he wasn't Calvanist, within a couple years that church got rid of the KJV and became a Calvanist church 

 

What Bible do they use now? ESV?

9 minutes ago, John Yurich said:

I should have been more specific and state that some months at that Baptist church I attend on Sunday mornings I only put a nickel in the collection basket once a month and other months I put a nickel in twice a month. Since I am not yet a member of that Baptist church as I have not taken membership preparation class than I do not want to donate more  than a nickel at a time. But when I do become a member of that Baptist church than I will donate a dollar every Sunday.

I mean no disrespect, but I'm having a hard time understanding why an adult would put only a nickel in the collection plate. Or even just a dollar a week. Churches have bills to pay, missionaries to send, etc etc. Remember, it's really to God you are giving back to.

3 hours ago, swathdiver said:

This fellow believes in the wrong Jesus and has not repented of his sins.  He needs to make repentance to God and put his trust in Jesus Christ (the Christ of the Bible).

The Catholic Jesus was not good enough to atone for man's sins and he is under Mary, in the RCC cult.  Both blasphemies.

The Holy Ghost burdened my heart and showed me the errors of Catholicism.  He would not let me rest until I removed my family from there and into a sound New Testament Church of the kind that Christ built and died for during his earthly ministry.

It was then that we began to really grow in grace and have our prayers answered by God through Christ and not by the devil.

That's what religion is: a system of works and man made traditions because Christ's atonement was (is) not enough according to them.

This is why Christianity is NOT a religion.

Praise God you left the RCC!

16 hours ago, BabeinChrist said:

 

Thanks for the photos.

1 hour ago, swathdiver said:

Repentance and Faith are two sides of the same coin.  One cannot enter into His eternal rest without making Repentance to God and putting one's trust (Faith) in Jesus Christ.

Repentance for salvation is a one time event, turning to Christ from sin.  

Repentance is...  https://www.wayoflife.org/database/biblical_repentance.html

 

An Excerpt:

“To repent literally means to have a change of mind or spirit toward God and toward sin. It means to turn from your sins, earnestly, with all your heart, and trust in Jesus Christ to save you. You can see, then, how the man who believes in Christ repents and the man who repents believes in Christ. The jailer repented when he turned from sin to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ” (John R. Rice, What Must I Do to Be Saved?, 1940).

“Repentance is a godly sorrow for sin. Repentance is a forsaking of sin. Real repentance is putting your trust in Jesus Christ so you will not live like that anymore. Repentance is permanent. It is a lifelong and an eternity-long experience. You will never love the devil again once you repent. You will never flirt with the devil as the habit of your life again once you get saved. You will never be happy living in sin; it will never satisfy; and the husks of the world will never fill your longing and hungering in your soul. Repentance is something a lot bigger than a lot of people think. It is absolutely essential if you go to heaven” (Lester Roloff, Repent or Perish, 1950s).

I agree. Peter was talking about a specific repentance for the Jews. He was handing down a 'murder indictment' against them for killing the Christ. Paul taught a different repentance. For salvation.

I know of a Maranatha Baptist church near where I live. It is very conservative. The women dress much like the Mennonites/Amish. Very plain, long dresses.

I used to attend American Baptist. It has an early Sunday service run only by the laity and the pastor rarely ever attended. When he did, he sat in the back. The laity would put on skits and each week a different person would give the sermon.

On 6/13/2017 at 0:22 PM, Baptistsenior said:

I listened to a radio preacher for a couple years before I realized that he was a calvanist, hope I'm not in a church that long before I figure it out LOL 

Might be a good idea when looking for a church to set up an appointment with the pastor and ask what his beliefs are.

The apostle Peter told the Jews they needed to repent and be baptized. This is different from what Paul said. The things many Christians don't realize is that Peter was preaching to Jews, not Gentiles. Pentecost was a Jewish Feast Day. He accuses the Jews of killing Christ and that they needed to repent of this crime and get baptized.

This is where the misunderstanding come from. Those who adhere to a "works" theology, claim Peter taught repentance and baptism as necessary for salvation. But they miss the context. It's very important to know who was writing , to whom they wrote and what were the circumstances.

9 hours ago, 1Timothy115 said:

I helped pull some dear relatives out of the Roman Church several years ago. They now attend my Baptist church and reject all tenants of the Roman system of religion as practiced in the mass and purported by their dogma. I hope some day you will come to the full knowledge that you cannot serve Babel and Jesus Christ at the same time.

It sounds to me as if John Yurich is attempting to tell Roman Church members it is ok to be both as long as THEY REMAIN ROMAN CATHOLIC at heart.

Praise God you were able to bring your family into the Truth. I come from a long line of Catholics and helped my own parents to become born again. Most of my relatives quietly left the RCC and joined different denominations.

There seems to be quite a bit of mixing law and grace going on today.Very difficult to leave a "works" theology church. I know of a Jewish lady who is roman catholic. She calls herself both a messianic Jew and a Hebrew Catholic. I think you are right about how some want to remain SOMETHING at heart. In her case she didn't want to lose her Jewishness.

For Catholics, it isn't just a religion, but a way of life.

18 minutes ago, Invicta said:

I have just been watching a prgramme on yesterday channel called Forbidden History, about the vatican archives. They have 52miles of shelves of documents.  The Vatican is built on on pagan temples.  Osiris and Isis are integrated into Catholic saints.  Well we knew that, but I have not seen it said on TV before.  Some anti christians on there.  THey refer to Christians, not realising the the RCC church is not Christian, but pagan with and very thin Christian veneer.  Very interesting I don't know if you can get it oversseas but it is on  Uktvplay https://uktvplay.uktv.co.uk/shows/forbidden-history/watch-online/?video=5453746319001