fastjav390

As far as I'm concerned, and this may sound harsh, Europe deserves what they get. They've just about totally apostatized from Christianity and are allowing themselves to be invaded and colonized by Islam. Candlelight vigils, crying and hugs, free rock concerts and punishing those who speak up is not going to stop the madness. 

1 minute ago, Salyan said:

My comment was in response to 1 Kings 20, specifically. You're jumping all over the place here.  I have no argument with the idea that the unborn are the same as the born in God's eyes, or that they deserve justice. I just disagreed with your application of 1 Kings 20.

The idea of 'life for life' speaks specifically of the life of the murdered for the life of the murdered. God doesn't punish people for what they did not do. Will God use war to punish countries? Possibly. Even probably. He's done it before. But I think it might be for a lot more than 'just' abortion. (not to downplay it, but not to make it the only factor, either.)

Anyways. What God does He will do. I think we need to be careful not to ascribe methods or plans to Him that He has not specifically informed us about, though.

 Actually, my premise is pretty straightforward. If the civil authorities don't carry out the death penalty like they are commanded by God will God allow murderers to multiply among the people. And does this include the abortion of babies if that is considered murder.

God said he would punish the children of Israel because of Ahab. He also ordered the destruction of Achan's whole family because of Achan's disobedience. So God may not punish you specifically for another person's sin but he'll still allow you to reap because of their disobedience. 

On 5/11/2017 at 1:30 AM, Ronda said:

Sadly, the devil has long loved to bring SOME Jews against Jews (and Christians). We see Judas as one example. I see today those such as George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg (facebook) with the same intent. I can myself testify to Zuckerberg's own antisemitism due to my posting a factual account of what Israel looked like in the 1800's wherein a king had given use of one of the first cameras and took photos of the area.. proving there were no arab 'palestinians' there at the time. Nothing but wasteland, overgrown with weeds and such. A few Jews remained, there were many former Christian dwellingplaces also overgrown and in disrepair. Even the arab abomination that currently sits on the temple grounds was in rot and decay with trees and bushes growing in front of and out of it's foundation and walls. All was desolate and abandoned, excpet for the few Jews there. Even just a couple of years ago those photos could be easily found on 'google' or other search engines. BUT today the search engine results yield a decidedly antisemitic anti-Jew, and anti-Christian compilation of results. 

Anyways... those photos were taken down by 'facebook security' claiming it went against their 'community standards'. Yet I had made NO calls for violence nor for murder of anyone. YET the same week I saw NUMEROUS muslim posts which actually called for the murder of Jews. When I (and numerous others) reported those posts calling for violence, those were NOT taken down! There is definitely an antisemitic platform that thrives on facebook (and many other prominent venues online). How sad that Zuckerberg is yet another self-loathing Jew. 

I also (as you profess to) have the love for Israel and the Jews that we are to have. I recognize that we (gentiles) are merely wild olive grafted in! (Rom.11:17) And it is dangerous grounds to boast of our salvation in comparison to them, also the false teaching of replacement theology is on the rise again... no doubt because these are the perilous last days. If more grace age believers actually understood the great PRIVILEGE we have by even being permitted into God's plan of salvation, for a specific purpose of God, whereas before salvation was of the Jews (John 4:22). Thankfully now we are in the age of grace... Jesus has gone to the cross and paid for our sins, He was buried and rose again the 3rd day (the gospel as outlined in 1 Cor.15:1-4). Right now Jews can come to Christ the same way Gentiles can. 
Yet, sadly, right now, in the age of grace, many Jews are still blind to the gospel... and will remain blind until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in (Rom.11:25). But we must also recognize their blindness is only "IN PART", since Jews still are coming to Christ alone for salvation even today. I know several of them, and am thankful they were part of them that were NOT blinded. 

There is an agenda which is apparent to any who can Spiritually discern. The unsaved world wants to remove TRUTH because they find truth offensive.

During these perilous last days where the characteristics noted in 2 Tim.3:1-7,13 and Rom.1:18-32 are prevalent (we can see ALL of those characteristics right now on full display). I also see 4 major attacks that I can attest have risen over my lifetime, especially in the last couple of years.
#1 Antisemitism - hatred of Jews and replacement theology
#2 The pre-trib rapture is also under attack
#3  The gospel is under attack... many profess a false gospel which doesn't align with what God's word declares the gospel for the age of grace to be (1 Cor.15:1-4)
#4 The KJV Bible is also under attack. There are numerous PERversions which have come out that attempt to remove the deity of Christ and even worse attempt to give that  deity to lucifer. Besides the removal of numerous verses, the changing of words to mean something other than what God's word said, and the fact that these PERversions all have COPYRIGHTS owned by men... who can (AND DO) change the words in their PERversions often to come up with what they call 'updated' and 'revised' issues. God's word does NOT need to be copyrighted by mankind. Neither does it need to be 'updated' nor 'revised'. The entire goal of those PERversions is to cast doubt on God's word. Just like the serpent did in the garden by questioning "Yea, hath God said?" God preserved His word in the KJV for English speaking peoples. 

I see this rapid turning on the state of Israel by their own people as a "sign" that things are getting close. I know we don't look for signs but Paul did mention we can know about "the times and seasons".  

On 5/10/2017 at 3:18 PM, John Yurich said:

The Death Penalty is totally scriptural. And it saves the tax payers money by not having to foot the bill to keep those convicted of first degree homicide in prison. The Death Penalty should be done via the electric chair only. I could easily throw the switch on the chair, turn the juice up full blast and state "fry dirty, rotten, animalistic insane murderer".

I know about the death penalty. My question was about all the murderers who are let off.  God commands the civil authorities to carry out the death penalty. If they don't will he do like he said to the king of Israel who was command to carry out the death penalty and punish them instead. Or at least allow murderers to multiple among the innocent? 

And what about aborted babies? If it's murder and there's been millions of them since Woe vs Wade, will God require it another way. 

On 5/10/2017 at 3:43 PM, Salyan said:

1 Kings 20 speaks to a specific command of God to a specific individual. I don't think it applies to the topic at hand.

That being said, government has been given the responsibility for the 'punishment of evildoers'. We see this throughout the OT (with the exception of the Avenger of Blood - which position only existed during the Theocracy when there was no human governmental structure in place). A king, as head of the government, could thus be held responsible for his government's actions (or lack thereof).  

As to the abortion & war question... the Avenger of Blood is no longer a thing. There is no account to be settled (except perhaps with the government that no longer follows God's laws - and that's His business. Isn't that kindof what the tribulation is for?). It's not up to us, and it's certainly not an issue for a war (which would kill more than just the perpetrators). That's just off the wall.

Genesis 9

[5] And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
[6] Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
[7] And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.

I don't see in this passage how that "fetuses" are excluded. They are still in the "image of God" as David made clear when he said that God "covered him in the womb" (Ps. 139:13). Are we going to say that only applies to one individual? (I realize it's a prophecy of Christ but it was still David speaking of himself also).

I'd like to point out to that verse 7 is talking about having babies. Interesting that it's in context of the death penalty.

I realize that all of this is out of my power and that the death penalty is to be carried out by the civil authorities. But I can't help feeling that this nation will pay the price for millions of babies aborted and "life for life" will be the way. 

On 5/10/2017 at 3:41 PM, Orval said:

sorry.

 

The first time I read this sentence it seemed to in infer future payment for sins done in another life time.  My apologies.  

No problem. I misread a lot of things because I tend to find myself scanning a lot of post, articles, books, etc. because I'm so busy throughout my day. 

On 5/8/2017 at 11:32 PM, DaveW said:

People talk to animals all the time today - the strange thing is that when the serpent ANSWERED she was not shocked...... 

 

Sorry, couldn't help myself. 

I remember being surprised when I first noticed that Eve was not in the least bit fussed about having a conversation with a snake. Just took me by surprise when I realised it.

That's because the "serpent" was not a "snake". No more than Dan was one (Gen. 49:17) or leviathan is one (Isaiah 27:1).

Personally, I think everyone should be fully persuaded in their hearts about what music is good and what is bad. I've watch these arguments go on endlessly and turn into sniping at one another (behavior worse than music) about something that is a matter of conscience, IMO. That being said, if I was a pastor I would only allow the most conservative, traditional music and hymns to be played so as to not offend anyone. 

31 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

As I understand it, there are types and styles of music that originated with specifically secular, sensual and often sexual music and venues.  For instance, I believe it was Paul McCartney who said, about the beatles music, that their intention, with their music, was to destroy some of the conventions in America, like obedience to parents and authority. There was an intention in the music, not just of theirs, but of all 'popular' music styles, most coming directly from old blues and jazz,, to incite attitueds of rebellion in the youth. Rock music virtually brought about the 'youth culture', the idea of the 'teenager', and the generation gap that came with it.

Those old enough to remember may recall a time when youth were treated as basically young adults-they had chores, were expected to act mature, and polite and respectful. With the music cultures came the youth cultures and rebellion against authority of all kinds. As far baclk as the 50's, the music of such tame musicians as Bill Haley and the Comets wrought violence in the streets by the youth attending the concerts. That was intentional and the music was the primary tool to bring it about.

Since, the music that has come from those roots, including rock of all stripes, rap, goth, pop, etc, etc, actively and openly promote fornication, violence, murder, drugs, abuse, spiritualism, worship of devils AND the performers, and rebellion in general.

So the point it, this type of music has an intention behind it, and this kind of filthy and profane music should never, ever be mixed with the things of God. Biblical lyrics mixed with profane music styles profanes our holy and sanctified God and Saviour, and such should not be. And the only reason it began to be used was to bring in numbers and make people comfortable-it changed the proper use of godly music, which is primarily to praise God or, secondarily, edify the believer, and made it to tickle the ears and raise the emotions. It has become about the listeners and performers, and is only about God for a pretense.

The musical style used generally in hymns as we know them for 500+ years, is a style that has developed primarily FOR hymns. Yes, ocasionally someone has snuck in profane tunes, but I would even today say to reject such. Just because someone puts it in a hymnal doesn't mean it's any good.

As for instruments, I have no problem with almost any instruments, depending on how they are used. Drums, except when used to accentuate a song, as seen in classical music, I reject because they are designed in their use, to bring a form of hypnosis through the beat. Drums are used in some cultures to summon devils, such as voodoo rituals and some african religions. New Agers use them in their drumming circles to bring a kind of hypnosis to all involved, opening one to posession. Drums I would shun.

You never hear pastors talk about country or rap for some reason. Country is some of the most depressing music there is. Kids today listen to those styles of music more than rock music. Rock 'n Roll is just about a dead genre now.

The church will be ruling with Christ and judging the world while the Jews will be on the earth with the Gentiles as their servants. Now, it also appears that some Christians will not reign with Christ at this time. It's not clear what shall be of them. There are some Baptists who believe carnal Christians will be suffering in the Lake of Fire during the millennial kingdom to burn away all the dross. But this is crazy and comes from wresting scripture in order to come up with a new doctrine to sell books and/or scare Christians into making sure they tithe and always do what the pastor says.

I would post some scripture to support this but I'm too lazy to do it know and I have to go out and mow the lawn which I'm dreading to do.

23 hours ago, Orval said:

Fastjav,

First let me clarify that by second coming you are not referring to the rapture but the event known as the 2nd advent.  That being said I would have no idea if 96% of the news outlets are Jewish owned or not and really do not care if they are or aren’t since (in my opinion) none of them are completely trustworthy and have gone from reporting events to manipulating public opinion in order to create news. 

The Jews (Israelites) like all people groups have a history of wickedness in relation to humanity and have found themselves involved in barbarities of all stripes including enslaving their own people. Because of their love for money they find themselves willing to do whatever fills their coffers regardless of the harm done to others and in this they do not differ from any other race of people. 

The fact that Israel is the “apple of God’s eye” Deut. 32:10 does not mean they are a perfect people just the opposite they are a sinful and wicked people just like you and me. 

I agree with you that there will always be those who turn against their own people Jesus stated in Mark 13:11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. Mark 13:12 Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.

There will always be those who refuse to place their allegiance with God through Christ and instead trust in themselves, their own wisdom, their own wealth, their own health etc. 

 

Your last paragraph caught my attention because I too wonder about the attacks leveled against other believers.  I am not against calling sin, sin or marking one or a group as heretical my concern is in properly determining what is “Christian” and what is not “Christian”.  Because someone does not read the same bible as me, or conduct their Christian Liberty as I do, does that make that person a none-Christian.  And if we judge what we can see what about what we cannot see?  And do we judge ourselves by the same measure we judge others?  Paul asked the question in Romans 2:17-23 to those who were confident in their standing in the law, “thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?”

When I call out someone for saying or doing something am I doing the same thing.  (this is an illustration) If I call out a well-known bible speaker for using a different version of the bible and yet I use concordances, commentaries to help discern the context and message of a given bible passage have I not in a sense, done exactly what the bible teacher has done?  Am I willing to cast the first stone as it were? 

The bottom line concerning my dilemma is your exact point, who are we or who am I to turn on other Christians and to believe I am the standard?  Don’t get me wrong the bible is our canon and it is infallible but I am not infallible and though I study I cannot see the heart of another person.  I believe the intent of the Lord’s parable concerning the seed and the tares is that they both grow until harvest because while we think we know who will be fruitful and who will not the fact is only God knows who will be fruitful and who will not be fruitful. 

I will be interested to see how others view your thoughts.

I agree with your last paragraph and think we do need to be very careful how we judge other believers.  

Yes, I was referring to the Second Advent, not the Rapture.

The 96% I came up with came from a website. I was going to post the link but I really don't want to do that in a forum like Onlinebaptist.

The percentage comes from the number owners and CEO's of these media sites. For instance, the New York Times, New York Daily News, Disney (who also own ABC and ESPN and a slew of other media corporations) , NBC (who owns CNN and HLN), CBS,  Facebook, Google,  MTV, Time Warner, Sony, ViaCom, HBO, Universal, Dreamworks, US News and World Report, etc etc, etc. are all founded,  owned or headed by Jews although there are plenty of Gentiles in lower positions in those organizations. This is an indisputable fact. The only exceptions I can think of are FOX and Turner Broadcasting (who merged with Time Warner). It's true that it most likely isn't an exact percentage but a rough guess-timate based all the few largest companies of the bunch who own just about every media outlet. (A little off topic but you would be amazed at how many of the major trucking companies are owned by the Mormon Church).

Now I really don't care that these groups are headed or owned by Jews. As far as I'm concerned their ability to thrive in these areas are a talent form God but at the same time it's alarming how many of these that hold these powerful positions within the media and entertainment are anti-Israel. lt seems to be no longer a minority among them but the majority of those that live outside of Israel.

This was the point I was trying to make. They are the false brethren that will actively side with the Beast against the remnant of Israel. 

I know we are not to look for "signs" of Christ's coming but Paul also said that "we are not in darkness that that day would overtake us like a thief". 

23 hours ago, Ukulelemike said:

Well, just as the Bible speaks of those who call themselves Jews but aren't, so we know there are false brethren, (so you named the posting), who claim the name of Christ, yet clearly are none of His-these will more than likely, when the time comes, willingly betray true believers, because they will be led to believe the strong delusion. Even today, many so-called Christians ignore the Bible's warning against taking a brother before the unsaved law, and sue each other over stupid things. So it is already happening. 

Yes, the First Council of Nicea dealt with the dispute about Christians who betrayed other Christians as well bishops who had betrayed their flock to Diocletian. 

22 hours ago, Orval said:

Fastjav,

First I enjoy your questions.  secondly I believe this was a one time happening and not principle of God's word.  If we follow your train of thought as a legit interpretation we could quickly find ourselves on the side of Buddhism and Hinduism and reincarnation.  Just a thought.

 

Not sure why you would think this would put us on the side of Far Eastern religions. There's nothing about reincarnation in my post. I just wanted to point out that in the bible, at least the OT, when blood was shed in the land it was to be cleansed by blood. I believe there was even a sacrifice for this under the law.

 It just seems to me that if abortion is murder than America will pay for it big time down the road

14 hours ago, Alan said:

I think your thoughts on are correct. As Orval mentioned, God was dealing with an incident under a king in Israel. I do not think though I want to be dogmatic about it.

God keeps good accounts and all of the murders, abortions, and other legal and moral matters that have not been settles by the legal system (either under the Law or under Grace), will be set straight at either the Judgment Seat of Christ or the Great White Throne of Judgment.

Also, I put my thoughts on the abortion fetuses on my Revelation Chapter 19-22 Study thread, page # 4, here is the link:

These are my thoughts on the aborted babies and the end result.

Alan

I think sometimes those accounts are settled ahead of time before the judgments. In the bible nations (as well as individuals) that turn against God pay the price eventually in this world and will pay again in the world to come.

I Timothy 5:24- Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.- Isaiah 66:5

The context of this verse is the Second Coming of Christ where Jews will turn on the remnant in the name of Jehovah..

It's interesting that it's mention that some Jews will be hated and betrayed by their own brethren at this time. Like during the Holocaust when a minority of Jews worked hand in hand with the Nazis in rounding up their own people. Even Dr. Josef Mengele's (aka the Angel of Death) right hand man who actually performed most of the hideous experiments on Jews was a Jewish man although he claims he feared for his life.

I bring this up because once again I see the New York Times (the CEO is a Jew) siding with Hamas against Israel. 96% of media in the world is owned by Jews. I won't list them all but you can check it out for yourself. Plus, the deafening silence of big Hollywood directors like Spielberg and Abrams whenever there is an attack against Israel yet they have no problem speaking up for the rights of Palestinians. 

Now before anyone thinks I'm antisemitic let me make it clear that I'm 100% pro-Israel and their right to statehood and their sovereign right to choose who they allow and don't allow within their borders. But it appears to me that the stage is being set for the Great Tribulation where most Jews (if they really are that, there's debate if "Ashkenazi Jews" are really children of Abraham), not a minority like during WW II, are turning against their own brethren. In this case, turning against the nation of Israel. I've read that even in Israel there's a substantial segment of Jews that wants to put and end of the state of Israel. Can you imagine that?

In a practical context for Christians this could apply to anytime Christians turn on other Christians in the name of Christ like we've seen so much throughout the last 2,000 years. It's one of the most discouraging things that could happen to a believer but things will be straightened out at the judgement seat of Christ.

And he said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Because thou hast let go out of thy hand a man whom I appointed to utter destruction, therefore thy life shall go for his life, and thy people for his people.- I Kings 20:42

You see here that God promises the king of Israel that since he didn't kill the king of Syria as commanded that God would punish him and the children of Israel because of it.

This makes me wonder that if the death penalty isn't carried out when a man is murdered (Genesis 9:5,6) that someone else will pay for the crime or is it that if murderers are continued to be let off the hook that they will murder again, that a culture of murder will develop that you see in some parts of the world now. In Europe we are starting to see their acceptance of terrorist attacks as part of daily life.

And what about all the millions of abortions? If it is indeed murder then sometime in the future will God require blood to be shed for all those "fetuses" aborted? A major war would be a way for the account to be settled.

Any thoughts on this or do you think it only applies to Israel under the law? 

A close study of Daniel would suggest that the Antichrist comes out of Syria. With all the Syrians flowing into Europe right now the man who takes over the so-called "revived Roman Empire" might already be there.

On 4/8/2017 at 2:48 PM, No Nicolaitans said:

 

You think this is bad. Try witnessing to someone who knows about all the different conflicting English versions or about the "original autographs".

On 4/4/2017 at 2:30 PM, D-28 Player said:

The fact remains that if you walked into a room full of Calvinists and claimed that Calvinists believe these things you would be laughed out of the room 

That's because there's a disconnect between what many Calvinists teach or say they believe (T.U.L.I.P.) and what they practice. Thus why you will find Calvinists who go soul winning. I've only met a few Calvinists who are consistent with what they claim to believe. 

I don't like Trump bombing Syria. Especially when there is no proof that Assad had anything to do with it except from what the "White Helmets" have said who have already been proven to be in league with Al-Qaeda. Trump said  during his campaign he would not get involved over there with regime changes that only make matters worse. This has the Neo-Con stamp of approval all over it.

I'm also disappointed with him selecting Kevin Hassett as his economic advisor. Hassett is 100% pro-illegal immigration and outsourcing and is a former chairman of the Council of Foreign Relations. So more broken promises by Trump. I think we can forget about the Wall.

I think the 24/7 hammering he has been taking by the globalists and liberal MSM has worn him down. Let's hope he doesn't become a CFR stooge. 

On 4/6/2017 at 4:25 PM, Ukulelemike said:

“[God] devotes to destruction whom he pleases … they are predestinated to eternal death without any demerit of their own, merely by his sovereign will. … he orders all things by his counsel and decree in such a manner, that some men are born devoted from the womb to certain death, that his name be glorified in their destruction. ... God chooses whom he will as his children … while he rejects and reprobates others” (Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book III, chap. 23).

Some interesting facts of the punishments meted out in Geneva under Calvin's reign: http://www.a-voice.org/tidbits/calvinp.htm

I had one Calvinist admit to me once that there's millions of babies burning in hell that were predestined as such. Not sure what Calvin said about babies or those that die in the womb but if you follow the logical conclusion of his teachings you would end up believing the same. Unless, like I've heard other Calvinists say, that only elected babies die never the unelected.

On 4/7/2017 at 4:42 PM, Tyndale said:

Would you suggest that the translators of the 1560 Geneva Bible and the majority of the translators of the 1611 KJV, who were Calvinists, followed a false god and not the true God of the Bible?

Would you suggest that Theodore Beza, who edited the primary edition of the Greek New Testament used in the making of the KJV, followed a false god?

Would you claim that Charles Spurgeon, a Calvinist, followed a false god?

I am not a Calvinist, but I wonder where your allegations against Calvinism are accurate.

Not all the translators of the KJV were Calvinist. I believe about half were. This is why King James was so strict with the translators so that none of them would try injecting their own theology into the translation. 

4 minutes ago, No Nicolaitans said:

I think he was just being humorous. :)

No he wasn't. If he was then he needs to look up Poe's Law.

Alan, even on this site words get shamelessly twisted. 

"When I preach I sin.  When I pray I sin. My very repentance needs to be repented of, and my tears need washing in the blood of Jesus Christ."-  Rev. Edward Bickesteth

"The more I think of some dogs, the less I think of some Christians". Rev. Robert "Fighting Bob" Shuler (Some Dogs I Have Known).

Washington did great with what little he had at his disposal. It's hard to carry out any great campaigns when you don't have weapons, food, men or finances to support  it. What he was really great at is patience, taking advantage of opportunities  and recognizing other great leaders to place in various roles of leadership. 

3 hours ago, Orval said:

If I like Matthew and Luke does that make me a heretic after the first or second admonition? 

I knew someone would come back with a wise comment that twists what I said. It's the way of the internet.

18 hours ago, The real Bob Hutton said:

I'm not sure if this is the right place, or if it has been discussed before but here goes...

I read recently that one can read the Bible through, at moderate reading speed, in 80 hours.  Therefore, half hour spent daily just reading it systematically would get one through it in 160 days.

However, I wonder if it is wise to read it through from Genesis to Revelation as it means that one doesn't come to the NT for some time.  What do y'all think?

For a mature Christian I would highly recommend reading from cover to cover but with a newbie they should start off in the NT. The Gospel of John, I & II Thessalonians, Romans and Ephesians. IMO, those books should be read first before the rest including Matthew through Luke which can be hard to grasp at times. This is why heretics will gravitate towards Matthew-Luke, Acts and Revelations.

On 3/21/2017 at 3:34 AM, DaveW said:

Did you not read my second post?

I am no fool - locking doors and locking cars is reasonable, but where I am I feel no need to arm myself for protection.

 

I AM GLAD THAT I LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE I DON'T FEEL I NEED TO ARM MYSELF.

 

I also feel sorry for you folks who live in places where you feel that you have to arm yourself.

 

Ask yourself - where would rather live?

In a place where you feel so threatened that you have to arm yourself, or in a place where you feel comfortable being unarmed?

I COULD ARM MYSELF IF I WISHED, but I don't feel it necessary.

 

 

 

Famous last words: "I live in an area I FEEL I don't need to arm myself". Hear this all the time before someone is raped or murdered in their own bed.

Crime was virtual unheard of in my area until a year ago when a group of thugs from out of the area went on a crime spree robbing two stores by gun point, breaking in a few homes and highjacking a car while murdering the owner in the process.