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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ukulelemike in Beliefs   
    Well, sort of. It kind of depends on wich prophet you read, or which of their 'authoritative' books you read. Some claim Jesus to be God, Himself. Somce say he is Adam. Some say he is only ONE of the billions of spirit children of Elohim, as is Lucifer. Their doctrine is such a mess, because every 'prophet' of the church is allowed authority to write, or re-write, what has been written, as part of their progressive revelation. Even the book of Mormon declares unequivocably that there is only ONE God who is everlasting, and that Jesus IS God, while Doctrines and Covenants clearly says otherwise, as did Bring'em Young.
    In fact, when compared, there is more true doctrine in the Book of Mormon about God than any of their other books, which disagree terribly one with another. It is amazing to me that ANYONE can be so stupid, or willingly ignorant, as to fall for it.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in How would you define "Soul Liberty"?   
    Brother Schneck,
    I believe that the phrase "individual soul liberty" is that phrase which we use doctrinally to indicate that -- Each and every individual human soul stands before the Lord our God spiritually as individuals, retaining individual responsibility before God, individual choice before God, individual accountability before God, and individual reward or judgment before God.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1611mac in How would you define "Soul Liberty"?   
    I wish there were more replies....
    Thank you Salyan, and Disciple.Luke for your replies. I appreciate it very much.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from 1611mac in How would you define "Soul Liberty"?   
    Each believer will ultimately answer to God alone - not a pope, priest, denomination, convention, fellowship or any other human being.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from 1611mac in How would you define/explain "The Priesthood of the Believer?"   
    ^^ I think she summed it up perfectly.
    I would agree with the above just worded a little differently.
    Every believer is a priest before God and does not need a human mediator to pray, interpret scriptures or offer spiritual sacrifices.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from 360watt in Christ Consciousness   
    I remember  reading Erwin Lutzer re telling a conversation he had with a "popular woman Pastor who skillfully blends Christianity with the New Age movement...". He pointed out how her answers seemed very orthodox to his first several questions he posed to her. As he persisted with his questions he eventually forced her to define her doctrine with more precision until she finally revealed that "When I speak about Christ, I am not speaking about Jesus of Nazareth".
    He never revealed her name, but I suspect there are many people being deceived by false doctrines without even realizing it. This is why I get annoyed when I ask someone a question who claims to be a "Christian", and their response starts with "My Pastor says" or "My church believes.." instead of "The Bible says...". Too many people in the pews have become Biblically illiterate.
    Thanks for your testimony!
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1611mac in How would you define "Soul Liberty"?   
    In a paragraph or so, how would you define/explain the Baptist distinctive "Soul Liberty?". (For research, I'm gathering info.)   I appreciate all replies.  Thanks 
    (See related post on "Priesthood of the Believer")
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Salyan in How would you define/explain "The Priesthood of the Believer?"   
    That, as believers, we have the right and privilege to come directly to God through Jesus Christ, and have no need of human priests or mediators.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from 1Timothy115 in Christ Consciousness   
    I remember  reading Erwin Lutzer re telling a conversation he had with a "popular woman Pastor who skillfully blends Christianity with the New Age movement...". He pointed out how her answers seemed very orthodox to his first several questions he posed to her. As he persisted with his questions he eventually forced her to define her doctrine with more precision until she finally revealed that "When I speak about Christ, I am not speaking about Jesus of Nazareth".
    He never revealed her name, but I suspect there are many people being deceived by false doctrines without even realizing it. This is why I get annoyed when I ask someone a question who claims to be a "Christian", and their response starts with "My Pastor says" or "My church believes.." instead of "The Bible says...". Too many people in the pews have become Biblically illiterate.
    Thanks for your testimony!
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Jim_Alaska in Jehovah's Witness   
    Their organizational structure is very much compartmentalized. For instance I will list positions people hold within the organization.
    1. The average JW: who will never miss a service, even feels guilty when sick and can't attend. There is a large majority of women in this classification.
    2. The Publisher: This is the person than knocks on your door with the aim of putting literature in your hand and trying to get you to agree to a "bible study."
    3. The Pioneer: This is also the person that knocks on your door, usually accompanied by a publisher and/or average JW in training. This person has applied to the elders and been approved to become a Pioneer. This is viewed as a full time ministry and all expense is born by the pioneer, they are not reimbursed nor paid in any way.
    4. The Ministerial Servant: This classification is held only by men, they are the ones that pass out the microphones at meetings, do odd jobs like cleaning, running errands, visiting the sick, or anything of a menial nature that is below the dignity of an elder.
    5. The Elders: These are always men who have shown a degree of leadership qualities over long periods of time. They have been recommended for the position of Elder by the other Elders in the congregation and approved for the office by both the Elders and the Circuit Overseer. These men are the ones that conduct the services by making sure that the guidelines of the governing body are followed to the letter. Usually one of them is assigned to record things such as, the performance of various parts of the services. They actually keep a written record of how the other people in the congregation are performing. This is critical for advancement in the local congregations.
    This is a critical control tactic. They record things such as: How the speaker holds his bible, how any speaker pronounces words, whether or not they pause in their reading at appropriate places, proper use of punctuation, proper posture. This is not confined strictly to platform speakers, but also to audience question and answer and bible reading. People are vocally praised at the end of their presentation for their proper use of these things.
    A detailed record is kept, listing exact numbers of home visits, numbers of materials passed out,  baptisms, bible studies held, numbers of attendees at both yearly assemblies and conventions, and the progress of every JW. This information is made public as an incentive for every JW to excel in his or her ministry.
    6. The Circuit Overseer: This man has an assigned "territory". He makes his circuit on a regular schedule, visiting every congregation in his territory at least once per year. His job is to make sure things are being done correctly, supervising the Elders, making sure that the rules of the governing body are being followed, writing evaluation reports to the home office. He also helps out with any problems that the Kingdom Hall may encounter.
    He is held in high esteem by all, almost to the point of being seen as an Apostle, although not called one. They are not paid a wage, but are required to demonstrate that they can be self supporting. They are afforded a very small stipend to help with travel expense.
    7. The Governing Body: These are the men headquartered at what they call "Bethel" in New York. They are the ones that dictate all material used by all JW's. Design lesson and "talk" material, produce lesson movies and videos and generally run the whole show.
    At Bethel there are also servants that do the menial tasks like the printing material, videos, conducting tours of the facility.
    I could go on and on, but it would take quite a bit of writing time, which I don't have this morning. Suffice to say that they are a highly organized cult that is possibly the most influential cult in the world at this time.
     
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Orval in Churchless again   
    Interesting posts.  Without understanding the criteria for immodest dress my first response would be to establish a biblical criteria for immodest dress.  And that would not be easy if one, the pastor is new to the church or two the ladies in question are visitors.  I would think the topic would be better handled in a teaching environment as opposed to a preaching service.  Also, age is likely to determine what is considered moral and immoral apart from bible teaching.  As I am nearing seven decades of age I tend to see dress in black and white either modest or immodest, but those under thirty years of age and apart from being raised in a home where modesty was driven my both mom and dad and explained why, do not consider anything short of being nude as immodest.  Culture has definitely impacted what we consider modest, and going beyond ones dress will bring you language which in my opinion is foul but is used by both men and women, this is the millennial culture and demonstrates that generations X and Y have dropped the ball in passing on moral prerogatives. 
    There may come a time when a person has to be approached but that time should be prayed over earnestly and thought out carefully, because if the case of modesty is presented incorrectly the results can be horrible and you could lose the opportunity to impact one or more families. 
    Concerning the pastor's behavior, I am not sure any of us are in a position to judge, because we do not have all the details nor do we have the facial expressions, tone of voice nor the accusations.  Best to leave that one alone, against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.  
    I Brother S does not feel the church is for him, he should really keep looking for a church he can serve in.  Without speaking ill, at this point, I believe he might be looking for perfection in which case he will not find it or he might wish to research the common denominator of why he has not found a church he can serve the Lord in.
    I hope this post is not hurtful but thoughtful. 
         
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Biblical verses about asking others for help.   
    I would consider a stubborn attitude toward asking for help a form of pride.
    James 4:6King James Version (KJV)
    6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
     
     
    Proverbs 8:13King James Version (KJV)
    13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ukulelemike in Churchless again   
    Well, anyone who has read about any of the issues in our church of late, probably have an idea as to how that would have gone down.  Ideally, however, it should have been an older woman in the church to speak to thse girls and teach them the importance of modesty. As some know, we have a young woman in our church, I think 25, who still wants to pop in wearing yoga pants or, last Sunday evening when I picked her up from a friend's before evening service, she was in a skin tight shirt and shorts, (and she isn't a thin girl by any means), and I asked her if she needed to be dropped off at home to change and she said, "No, I'm good." So I said, "Yeah, maybe I should drop you off to change", and she got the idea and went and put on a skirt. And this is a continual issue. I have now placed it on the shoulders of her husband, (who was sick that day, or I'd have not said anythig to her directly) and if she dresses immodestly, I will go to him and he will be expected to go to her and take care of it. 
    These girls being teens, did their parents attend the church? They are the ones the pastor should have spoken to about the dress, and as a pastor, I am not shy about telling young people, (or old I don't care), that they need to out their phones down during service.  I think this pastor was not doing his job-didn't sound as though he was even trying, and he will continue to lose new people and maybe older members if he doesn't teach modesty, or they will quickly become a modern, carnal church. Better to be out of there before that happens.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1611mac in Churchless again   
    I think it a given that we have a "mix" in the church due to visitors, new un-taught Christians, etc but my concern is that we are NOT teaching modesty and that in general churches are going "immodest" in wholesale....
    When visiting churches I judge by the dress of the leadership, the teachers, the greeters, the choir members, the singers, etc etc.  If someone is dressed in-appropriately I try to assume they may be visiting or just haven't been taught yet.  (For example, dress in VBS is generally awful, the kids and the parents. We have to allow for that.) But sadly, teaching on "dress" is being removed from our churches overall. Yet, it is plainly taught in the Bible.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Salyan in Churchless again   
    I think this is a constant struggle in churches - whether from the youth, or from new folks coming in. Sometimes it's regular members who have different views. A church can require a dress standard of active members, but it's rather difficult to enforce from nominal members or visitors. You can't really just make them sit in the back or send them home to change - treating adults like children in this fashion is a good way to make sure they never darken your doors again. I'm one of the kind of folk that figure one should just make a rule, and people will obey it - cause that's what I would do - but it (frustratingly) doesn't seem to work that way with the majority. Even with our youth, we can require a standard, but if it doesn't become their standard, they will just reject it (and church) when they get older.  It can't be required of by rules - it has to be taught by principle and example. As slow and painful as that is.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1611mac in Churchless again   
    The Bible says that the Christian is not conformed to this world, but rather, transformed.  Dress should reflect this.  Modest means modest and that means covering up in a way that is not revealing.  I believe men understand what is modest better than women.  It is the man that has the "sight" problem. If they would be HONEST, most men could pretty easily tell you if a woman was dressed in a modest fashion or not. (Note: Some have not been taught yet and don't know better. But some ladies simply insist on "conforming to the world" in the matter of dress, even when that pastor teaches and requests modesty.)
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from Alan in Churches in Greenville SC   
    I would say Morningside Baptist - morningside.org 
    Pastor Josh Crockett left our church here to become the Senior Pastor there. He is only about 38 yrs old but his reputation and teaching ability are second to none in my opinion. His father Leigh Crockett was the Pastor of our church for many years, after his battle with cancer ended and the Lord took him home, his son Josh was voted in as Pastor until he went to Morningside. Josh and all of his brothers graduated from Bob Jones University and they all stayed in the Greenville, S.C. area. When Leigh Crockett (Josh's father) past away he was so highly thought of that Governor Mike Pence sent a letter to the church family with his condolences, and Bob Jones 3 came to preside over the funeral here in central Indiana.
    I would recommend just visiting the Morningside website and listening to a few of his sermons.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from swathdiver in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    Ukulelemike -
    Your friend is absolutely correct about evils behind Mormonism.
    When you first join the church all you hear over and over is how great and peaceful going inside a temple is, but they a forbidden to talk about the actual rituals in public. Immediately they teach how to find your dead ancestors names to prepare to take to "new convert group baptisms". When I joined there wasn't a temple in Indiana yet, so a female convert, the Bishop, The High Priest group leader and myself made the trip to the Columbus, Ohio temple. The temples are beautiful on the outside but I will never forget how something felt terrible wrong once we got inside. If it would've just been me feeling that way I would've just brushed it off, but almost immediately the female convert whispered how it felt evil "like walking into a horror film".
    Eventually I started searching the web looking for information about what happens during the other rituals, and that was the beginning of the end for me. I found out about the two secret handshakes you have to know to pass through the gates of heaven. And things like how the "sacred" undergarments (Mormon underwear) had Freemason type symbols embroidered on them. 
    Ive experienced the life of being a Mormon and it's either the stupidest religion ever created by man, or false worship that originated in hell.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Potatochip in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    Study the bible and about narcotics pharmakeia I believe its called and freemasonry.  None of that fascinates me.  The web is great for research and youtube also.  Several people mentioned sources in this thread.  If you read back.  Its all there in the research when you find credible sources.  
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ukulelemike in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    There is a fellow named Bill Schnoebelen who was apparently, by his own testimony, a practicing high level witch who practiced vampirism, and a high level Mason. He reached a point, (apparently through the influence of some Christiand praying fervently for his salvation), where he wanted out. He had heard that the best way to get out was through the Mormons, (probably since they were just as bad anyways), so he became a Mormon. He found that, due to his Masonic past, he was able to be inducted into the temple mysteries very quickly, and advanced fast. While there, he began to study the KJV very seriously, and chose to avoid the other LDS books, much to the chagrin of the Mormon leadership. It was through study of the KJV Bible that he became convinced the LDS were wrong as well, and got saved and got out. Now he teaches a lot on the evils of Masonry and witchcraft and mormonism.
    Supposedly, again according to his testimony, his hair and beard are white due to a ritual he performed while a witch where he encountered a devil and the experience turned his hair white, and his son, who was performing the ritual with him..disappeared-he never saw him again after the ritual. I don't know how much of what he says is true, but it is interesting nonetheless.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Potatochip in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    Knowing what I know about them I wouldn't come within a country mile of that place lol.  Nor would I knowing associate with one on a personal level.  Weather they know whats going on or not.  Christ and salvation is the priority in my life.  
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Potatochip in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    Simple facts.  Of course me and my witnessing brother discussed it.   His uncle was one of the top guys in his state with the Freemasons.  Do some research and you'll find out thats exactly what they believe.  All Gods are lesser gods thats in the lower levels and the ultimate revelation that Lucifer is their most high.  Reveled in the higher Mason degrees.  The other gods do his bidding. Basically its witchcraft in my opinion again.  Lucifer most certainly has a place with the governments of the earth.  Hard to dispute that also.  I would not play with it for certain.  I make no judgements.  I am only interested with salvation of the individual weather it be a witch or drug addict (same deal lol)   Killer or polygamist.  In arguing anything other than salvation.  Sometimes its necessary to have a working knowledge of what they are trapped in.  However Salvation in my opinion is sufficient in all situations.  People don't always say.............  I would never have anything to do with freemasons on a personal level and would avoid it.  I like being with saved wholly dedicated to Christ Christians and nothing else.  I do like preaching the Gospel however..... 
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from DaveW in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    Oh sorry man. I didn't pay any attention to your post date. I wrongly assumed since there were new posts it was started recently.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to OLD fashioned preacher in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    About 2 years ago I did a series on Free Masonry, followed by Islam, followed by Mormonism -- many, many parallels and similarities within them.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1Timothy115 in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    I've known of the Freemasons who have also claimed to be Christian. They are deceived...pray for them. I can't see them believing the Bible and holding to freemasonry. 
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