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    Disciple.Luke reacted to No Nicolaitans in Giving the Gospel / Are YOU Ashamed of Christ?   
    Yesterday, I shared the gospel with someone with whom I've befriended in Britain. Please pray for him if the thought crosses your mind. He has gotten caught up in the new age mindset of... "we're all one small part of the greater universe"..."all roads lead to the same place"..."we all have good in us, and it's what we do with that good that matters"...etc.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ronda in Giving the Gospel / Are YOU Ashamed of Christ?   
    Giving the Gospel / Are You Ashamed of Christ?
    I had intended on writing a SHORT encouraging note to others about sharing the gospel.
    That truly was my main intent prior to setting about to type some thoughts and copy corresponding scripture down...
    But as often happens, the Lord put something else on my heart. 
    I recently had a discussion with a fellow believer who admitted that he or she rarely shared the gospel with others.
    Since the conversation was somewhat recent, it may be why the Lord put it on my heart, BUT I think it may well be that it wasn't this person (in particular) but someone else (unknown to me whom) and perhaps ALL of us that could benefit by serious consideration of the following 2 questions (and why the Lord put it on my heart to bring this forward HERE today, I am not sure, but felt compelled to do so).
    The 2 questions I am asking each one of us to consider today are these:
    #1. Do you share the gospel with others?
    #2. Are you ashamed of Christ?
    Most of us here (at least those whom I've come to know somewhat) would likely answer the questions with an emphatic "YES, I share the gospel", and "NO, I am not ashamed of the Lord".
    But I'd like to ask you all to take time to delve deep into those answers and see if we ALL couldn't improve?
    I'd like to first address any who would be brave enough to admit (even if only to themselves) that they do NOT often share the gospel with others... and ask them Why not?
    (And I am not asking for anyone here to come forth to admit they do not, nor give a reason, nor am I singling out anyone in particular... just asking them to please read and consider these things I am writing)
    In another group I heard many (anonymous) responses to that question (of why they do not regularly share the gospel) with the following answers:
    A. I am shy or uncomfortable sharing the gospel
    B. I don't know how to start the conversation
    C. I don't know scripture well enough to show (or tell) another person the gospel
    D. I could lose my job if I did
    E. It starts arguments in the family when I've tried before
    F. I would be ridiculed or mocked
    G. No-one listens anyways
    H. It's not socially acceptable, there is a time and place for that kind of thing
    I. I leave that up to others (for varying reasons)
    J. I don't have time
    K. No one has ever asked me 
    L. I'm not a proficient speaker
    M. I worry about what others might think of me
    N. I am a coward
    There are likely hundreds of other answer such as these, but do we recognize they are all EXCUSES???
    Yes, if you have never shared the gospel before it can seem daunting and be uncomfortable (at first).
    But is that really a good excuse? Just like everything, the more you do something, the more proficient you become at it, the less stressful or intimidated you will feel.
    As for those who answer "I don't know scripture well enough"... there is a remedy for that! Only you can determine to study God's word and remedy your ignorance of it... asking prayerfully for Him to lead and guide.
    There is another reason which we ALL need to examine ourselves about...
    We need to question ourselves truthfully and ask: Are we ashamed of Christ?
    Even for those whom have answered "YES, I share the gospel with others", I would like to ask you also to consider this question as well...
    Do we find that at times we don't share the gospel because we are worried more about what mankind thinks rather than serving the Lord?
    Are we worried that it could cause familial rifts? Cost us social standing? Be passed up for promotion? Possibly even lose a job? 
    Either way there is a pattern I have noticed among some believers today. A pattern of shame. 
    I wonder how many recognize that with knowing the gospel comes a responsibility to SHARE the gospel with others? 
    I also wonder if many of us are waiting around for SOMEONE ELSE to share the gospel with our loved ones???
    I've seen many a prayer request (on other venues) for an unsaved family member, but when asked it they themselves have shared the gospel with that loved one the response is often some hemming and hawing, and an admission of "NO", they have not.
    The excuse most often given is "it never seems to be the right time".
    I'd like to note that it is ALWAYS the right time to share the gospel. 
    No-one is promised tomorrow... if that unsaved loved one were to die today and YOU didn't share the gospel with them... how will answer the Lord? Will you then make more excuses as to why you didn't share the gospel? Do you think HE will accept them?
    Some serious questions we need to each ask ourselves... and if you are waiting for an opportune time, might I suggest NOW.
    " Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?"
    "Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame."
    "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek."
    "And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us."
    "As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."
    "For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed."
    " For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day."
    "According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death."
    "Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began"
    There is more scripture to draw from regarding this topic. But I wonder if we couldn't ALL do better insharing the gospel.
    I can attest to the fact that both Christians and conservatives are being censored on Facebook and other social media platforms.
    Over the last year I have felt compelled to share the gospel there where it is needed most.
    I was recently banned on facebook for 24 hours for quoting (ironically). 
    The very next week I was given a 72 hour ban (which only lasted 24 hours???) with no real reason given.
    The facebook message from "facebook security" stated that they had "noticed suspicious activity on my account"... but they failed to note exactly WHAT the alleged "suspicious activity" was!
    I have heard numerous accounts from other Christian and conservative facebook users in regard to this.
    I have one friend on facebook who ONLY posts scripture, and she also was given a 24 hour ban recently.
    For far too long, we in the states have become complacent, thinking that we will always have the free speech we enjoyed thus far in our lifetimes.
    Many of us have become lazy thinking that now that republicans hold the presidency, the house, and the senate that our freedom of speech is secure.
    Even though the left lost the election, they are still in control of most media. Zuckerberg (facebook) as well as the owners of Google are openly censoring conservative and Christian content. (If you haven't YET noticed a change in your search results there on Google, you soon will).
    They have gotten together (along with many leftist groups) in order to determine what THEY think is "fake news", which of course means that anything in opposition to their own liberal-left-leaning ideology they will deem to be "fake news".
    As many missionaries here can attest, they do not have the same freedoms to witness to others as we have here in the US.
    Yet sadly, so many of us are frittering away time here, taking for granted we will always have such freedom to share the gospel openly.
    I wanted to bring forth this timely encouragement for believers to share the gospel with as many as you can... in whatever venue you can... WHILE you can.
    If you are not sure what the gospel IS... it is found in
    1 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;"
    2 "By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain."
    3 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;"
    4 "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"
    The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ Jesus.
    Sadly, this is often overlooked in an attempt to share WHY one must believe on Jesus for salvation, and skip right to the "believe" but not WHAT to believe! (A watered down version of the gospel).
    How many times growing up did I hear the Billy Graham style mantra of HIS version of the "gospel"?
    Graham's version was: "Ask Jesus into your heart".
    Where, I wonder, did he find THAT "gospel"? And how many were deceived by it?
    Now that we know what the gospel is, we also know that we must BELIEVE the gospel.
    16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
    17 "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
    18 "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
    10 "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
    "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him."
    "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
    "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

    "And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation:
    To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."
    We see then that the gospel (the death, burial, and resurrection) must be believed for salvation.
    We further see that Jesus took OUR sins upon Himself on the cross... He went willingly to, to pay for those sins which we coud NEVER pay for ourselves ("...all our rightousness are as filthy rags..." ).
    Salvation is a free gift, but one must BELIEVE and accept the gift... it is not 'automatically applied' without belief. In fact, tells us "... he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.".
    We further see that in His resurrection, Jesus defeated death... rising in a glorified, uncorruptible body!
    So that we (believers) will ALSO have a body like Jesus' own perfected eternal body (1 John 3:2).
    When will we receive those uncorruptible/perfected bodies? At the rapture!

    51 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"
    52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
    53 "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
    54 "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."
    55 "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"

    13 "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope."
    14 "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him."
    15 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep."
    16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:"
    17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
    18 "Wherefore comfort one another with these words."
    God's word tells us to "comfort one another with these words".
    Nothing is more comforting to a believer than to know that Jesus has defeated both sin and death... and HE is the reason for the hope that is within us.
    Won't YOU share the gospel with someone today? Or could it be... and be honest with yourself and with the Lord... that you are ashamed of the gospel? Ashamed of Christ?

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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from 1Timothy115 in Billy Graham   
    Your reasoning is what is illogical. Billy Graham is only a sinful human like everyone else, and that's why we have to examine our beliefs daily to make sure our beliefs fall in line with the Bible. Even if an angel from heaven comes down preaching a "different" gospel, we would have to reject it as false teaching.
    Even if, as you say, that false statements outside the pulpit don't really count as his personal beliefs, that would just make him look like a hypocrite and a liar.
    I respect Billy Graham, but he isn't infallible when it comes to doctrine and theology.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from No Nicolaitans in Billy Graham   
    Your reasoning is what is illogical. Billy Graham is only a sinful human like everyone else, and that's why we have to examine our beliefs daily to make sure our beliefs fall in line with the Bible. Even if an angel from heaven comes down preaching a "different" gospel, we would have to reject it as false teaching.
    Even if, as you say, that false statements outside the pulpit don't really count as his personal beliefs, that would just make him look like a hypocrite and a liar.
    I respect Billy Graham, but he isn't infallible when it comes to doctrine and theology.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to No Nicolaitans in Billy Graham   
    John, you are either continuing your game, or you are naive in your understanding.
    Popes make statements from pulpits, Benny Hinn makes statements from pulpits, and all kinds of false teachers make statements from behind pulpits, yet the pulpit doesn't make the statement true.
    If you actually believe what you're espousing, you have my deepest and most sincere regret for your naivety. However, if you are just espousing shenanigans that are supposedly pointed at Christianity, you are the one looking quite foolish...not us.
    Which is it friend? 
    Sadly...as much as I appreciated your "uniqueness" at first...I will no longer play your game at this point.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1611mac in Billy Graham   
    Well, I think anyone would agree that we all rejoice about the "good" done in his ministry...  In my mind that is a given...
    But his teaching has not changed. False doctrine is to be rebuked. If I spouted false doctrine here you would rebuke me... you wouldn't ask how many people have been saved as a result of my preaching Christ.  And then, even at that, you'd have to decide how many "salvations" it takes to "qualify" for non-rebuke.  We have too many compromising pragmatists!
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to No Nicolaitans in Billy Graham   
    I appreciate what I perceive as being your sense of humor; however, Mr. Graham has shown in personal interviews what his view of salvation is...and it's not biblical. 
    If this is all just a game to you (along with your other posts in other threads), then have your fun while it lasts. It's no longer humorous...even to me. If it's not a game, and you actually believe what you're posting, then you have a long way to go my friend.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to DaveW in Billy Graham   
    The plain facts of the matter:
    some people were saved under the ministry of Billy Graham Billy Graham from some of the earliest times spoke in interviews things that are contrary to biblical salvation. Billy Graham is known to accept and stand with groups that clearly DO NOT preach the biblical Gospel. Those are the facts.
    WHY he stands with unbiblical groups, and WHY he says things in interviews that are contrary to the Biblical Gospel is actually NOT IN THE LEAST BIT IMPORTANT.
    If he is mentally unstable as you suggest without any evidence or proof. or if he knew exactly what he was doing and why, it makes no difference - some people were saved under his ministry and preaching, but in interviews he teaches a false gospel.
    End of story, those are the facts.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to HappyChristian in Billy Graham   
    "Totally sick and demented..." is unacceptable speech toward members who just don't happen to agree with you, John Yurich. You are hereby officially warned, and as soon as I finish this, you will receive warning points. Step back and be a little less (really, a whole lot less) obnoxious towards fellow Christians. It seems that you are more concerned with defending a compromiser than you are in being gracious in your speech towards Christians.
    A word to the wise should be sufficient. We shall see.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to DaveW in Church website contact.   
    Our church has a website, and on that we have a place where people can ask questions, to which we can respond via email.
    A while back I got an inquiry from a gent which, to be perfectly honest, appeared to have some sort of agenda, but it was not clear what that agenda was exactly.
    I answered in good nature, giving Scripture, and then illustrations, to explain the particular concepts.
    Today I got a response from him.
    The first statement in response to my answer to him was that he had heard that argument many times before, but it was just plain wrong.
    He then proceeded to wrongly state what I believed and basically make fun of my response. 
    His response made it very plain that he was not in any way interested in my initial answer, and that he really wanted to push his doctrines on me.
    I basically sent him an email saying that I was happy to answer genuine questions, but was not interested in continuing when he was plainly not interested in discussion, but only in pushing his doctrine.
    Why do these guys think that have any right to try to push false doctrine on a church at random.
    I would never dare to go onto a church website and try to convince the Pastor that he is wrong.
    That is just like these deceivers that come onto this forum and try to cause trouble and push their false teaching where they know we don't believe like they do.
    It will be interesting to see if he responds, but I will not be answering him again anyway - not interested in entertaining false teachers. I have far more important things to do with my time.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Invicta in Billy Graham   
    Some were saved as a result of his campaigns, including some members of my own family, but many whopo were enquiring were sent back to Catholic churches,
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1611mac in Billy Graham   
    Free eBook... Billy Graham's Sad Disobedience.... available in pdf, mobi (Kindle) and ePub formats.  
    Web page: https://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/billy_grahams_disobedience.php
    Direct pdf link: http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/downloads/Billy_Grahams_Sad_Disobedience.pdf
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to 1Timothy115 in False Brethren   
    Yes, Christ will take care of this issue. 1 Corinthians 6:1-7 .
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ukulelemike in False Brethren   
    Well, just as the Bible speaks of those who call themselves Jews but aren't, so we know there are false brethren, (so you named the posting), who claim the name of Christ, yet clearly are none of His-these will more than likely, when the time comes, willingly betray true believers, because they will be led to believe the strong delusion. Even today, many so-called Christians ignore the Bible's warning against taking a brother before the unsaved law, and sue each other over stupid things. So it is already happening. 
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ukulelemike in Billy Graham   
    John, I hope you're trolling here. To say that he was suffering from some sort of mental illness when he said some things he said, but to stand and uphold other things he said, and to outright deny that he said certain things he is well known for, well, either you have no sense of reality in yourself, or you;'re just playing with us.
    Billy Graham gave up basic solid Bible doctrine for the love and approval of the world a long time ago. He is an ecumenical compromiser, at best, and the fringe of heresy, at worst.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Salyan in Billy Graham   
    I can see what an influence he was in your life. It's hard to hear anything against someone that has been important to us. I remember the first time I heard anything spoken against Elizabeth Elliot and James Dobson (both influential evangelical figures in my youth) - it was pretty much unbelievable to me that there could be anything wrong with anything they said! But all men are fallible.
    I really don't see the mutual exclusion here that you do. Let me illustrate. If one person in a particular setting (say casual workplace acquaintance) ask where I was from, they'd get the quick answer (hometown, central AB). If another person in another setting (say good friend at home) was to ask me, they'd probably get a more thorough answer (born in BC, moved back at such an age to be with family, etc.). The first answer does not negate the second.
    In the same fashion, it is completely possible for Graham to give a short definition of salvation in his crusades, and a more thorough explanation of his views in that area when giving interviews or writing books. His short definition may sound correct to us (and frankly, since the crusades are designed to appeal to a wide variety of denominations, he probably chooses his words carefully while preaching in them so as not to offend anyone), while his more detailed explanation exposes some serious doctrinal deviances.
    Ultimately, what you choose to believe about any person is your choice. It really doesn't affect me at all. I am concerned, though, that you allow yourself, in any part of life, to consider all the pertinent information, and not reject out of hand anything that does not meet with your preconceptions. It is not logical to refuse to accept a man's own words as evidence of his beliefs. Faith is not strengthened by the refusal to challenge it, and God's Word is strong enough to stand up to our questions.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from Alan in hello   
    You were led to this site by searching for  commentary on 2 Kings 5?
    Im no expert on the 4th and 5th chapter of 2 Kings, but verse 27 seems to answer your question.
    27 The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cleave unto thee, and unto thy seed for ever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Alan in SEX: RESPONSIBILITY OR RAUNCHYNESS?   
    I think that the post needs to be deleted. The subject matter is so intimate that it should not be blazed in the public eye. I do have my children looking at my posts occasionally and I have always handled the matters of the intimate relationship with others in a proper, discreet, and biblical manner.
    Also, the word 'sex' is not a Bible word for the relationship between a male and a female. It is a worldly word that has demeaned the relationship between the male and the female. The proper word is 'to know,' or 'to love.'   
    OnLine Baptist is not a forum of the world. OnLine Baptist is an IFB forum that is supposed to be discreet in the handling of intimate matters in a Christian manner and in Christian terminology.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Salyan in Were Men Born Again Before Pentecost?   
    "It may be that your lack of diligence in understanding the Word of God explains your tendency towards hostility for people you do not know, your assumptive slander, and your attempt to disrupt..."
    Whoa, there. Just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean they don't understand the word of God.   We don't make those kind of accusations here. 
     As a newcomer, it would behoove you to pay attention to established members when they seek to give you guidance for how we do things here.   For them to give you some gentle guidance, and have you threw it back in their faces,  reflects rather poorly on you.
    Since, as I said earlier, I think this is an argument about semantics, I'm not following the subject matter here very closely. I am making no judgements as to who is 'right'.   However, as this topic  seems to have come to a standstill, and its originator  appears to be combative, I'm going to shut it down to prevent this debate turning into a fight. 
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to weary warrior in Were Men Born Again Before Pentecost?   
    Stop. Just ... stop. For heaven's sake, listen to yourselves.  Has anyone actually stepped back and looked at the pointless, inane basis for this "discussion" started by a complete stranger, a stranger that possesses an arrogance of the kind instrumental in destroying so many good churches today? Being doctrinally right does not put one on an automatic moral high ground. It's like Tyndale all over again. You keep feeding these guys by responding to them, because they crave attention and need to feel important.
    The OP said "And to be clear, I am not asking if men were "saved" before Pentecost, I am asking if men were regenerated prior to Pentecost". Pages and pages of discussion that turns out to be regarding nothing but silly semantics and  childish word games over a basic 1st grade Bible doctrine. Because some dude walked in off the street and decided he was going to ... what? 
    Where does he attend church? Does he attend church? Does he have a history of faithful service? 
    Never trust a man who is "impossible to offend". Even Christ was offended. A man who is impossible to offend (look at Tyndale's posts) is a man wrapped up so tight in his own intellectualism he cares nothing for people, nor even for the actual subject he's touting itself. Think about it. Offense comes from passion, a passion for people and a passion for truth. A man with no offence is a man with no passion. These guys don't care about you, and they don't care about the truth. They care about being the one holding an intellectually superior position, and are constantly beating you over the head with it in order to maintain that superiority, if you'll stand there and let them. Again, actually step back and look at the shallowness of this subject, and compare it to all of the ...words... the OP has put into it. The same with the effort Tyndale has put into saying ,,, nothing. There is no substance. They're sucking all of the air out of the room, a man can't even breath in here any more.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Jim_Alaska in Jehovah's Witness   
    This is true to the extreme, Mike. They are adamant that only 144,000 go to heaven, all other JW's get to spend eternity on what they call "Paradise Earth."
    This imaginary 144,000 are so special that only they get to actually partake of what we call the Lord's Supper, which they call "The Memorial." At their memorial service no one gets to actually partake of the wine and bread. They pass it out and you are supposed to just pass it to the person next to you. This si  supposedly because no one can possibly know who is of the 144,000, and they don't want to leave out the possibility that one of the 144,000 might actually be in their congregation and therefore worthy to partake of the bread and wine.
    They get a tremendous amount of mileage out of the 144,000 that is nowhere to be found in Scripture.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Ukulelemike in Jehovah's Witness   
    I was under the impression that ONLY the 144,000 go to Heaven, or even ever see the face of God. All other good JW's will be resurrected into the new (renovated) earth and will dwell there forever.  They don't believe in an actual NEW heaven and NEW earth, just that earth will be made back like Eden. Those who die lost will be resurrected for their judgment, then cast into the lake of fire to be quickly burned up and blink from existence.  This is what I've gotten from local JW's. The doctrine seems to change often. I guess, like the Mormons, they have a 'progressive revelation'.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to HappyChristian in Billy Graham   
    Billy Graham, over the years, went his own way rather than sticking completely with scripture. He was warned by a number of men who saw the trail he was beginning to take. He chose to ignore the warnings of men like Dr. John R. Rice, Dr. Bob Jones I, Dr. Charles Woodbridge, etc (and I'm not lifting any of those men up - just naming a few names of well-known men who rebuked Graham early on).  As early as 1957 Graham had modernists (120 of them) on his crusade committee.
    While there have been people saved via Graham's ministry, that does not excuse his disobedience - any more than some fruit in ministry excuses ANY sin on the part of ANYone. 
    We can choose to believe or not believe whatever we want (although it is illogical to disbelieve that what someone claims to believe - and teaches it over the years - is what they actually believe). But the Bible tells us "out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh." Graham's mouth spoke what was in his heart, and a good bit of it was heresy.
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    Disciple.Luke got a reaction from swathdiver in Freemasonary in the midst of the brethren   
    Ukulelemike -
    Your friend is absolutely correct about evils behind Mormonism.
    When you first join the church all you hear over and over is how great and peaceful going inside a temple is, but they a forbidden to talk about the actual rituals in public. Immediately they teach how to find your dead ancestors names to prepare to take to "new convert group baptisms". When I joined there wasn't a temple in Indiana yet, so a female convert, the Bishop, The High Priest group leader and myself made the trip to the Columbus, Ohio temple. The temples are beautiful on the outside but I will never forget how something felt terrible wrong once we got inside. If it would've just been me feeling that way I would've just brushed it off, but almost immediately the female convert whispered how it felt evil "like walking into a horror film".
    Eventually I started searching the web looking for information about what happens during the other rituals, and that was the beginning of the end for me. I found out about the two secret handshakes you have to know to pass through the gates of heaven. And things like how the "sacred" undergarments (Mormon underwear) had Freemason type symbols embroidered on them. 
    Ive experienced the life of being a Mormon and it's either the stupidest religion ever created by man, or false worship that originated in hell.
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    Disciple.Luke reacted to Pastor Scott Markle in How would you define/explain "The Priesthood of the Believer?"   
    Brother Tyndale,
    I would certainly agree that 1 Timothy 2:5 speaks concerning the High Priesthood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of our access unto God the Father through that High Priesthood.
    However, I would ask if you might explain in what manner you would consider 1 Timothy 2:5 to be speaking concerning OUR priesthood?
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