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Disciple.Luke

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  1. Well said and I could not agree with you more! I've noticed this problem in probably 95% of the churches I've ever been in. This is exactly what I was emphasizing in a different thread a few days back when I mentioned that Christians should be cautious of trying to be MORE forgiving than Jesus on issues related to sins. I've have become increasingly frustrated with people taking verses out of context like Matthew 7:1 implying that Christians can never make any kind of moral judgement or stand.
  2. when I googled Pastor Locke earlier several stories popped up from just yesterday where he is apparently telling church members they will get kick out for wearing masks. I feel like he's going a little too far if he really said that https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/27/tennessee-pastor-greg-locke-masks/
  3. Good point. I wasn't really looking at it from the view of the missionaries themselves as much as I was the Nigerian government. I had to look up the Nigerian President on Wikipedia and he sounds as worthless as most elected officials in Africa. He apparently supports sharia law in Northern Nigeria but went to war with Boko Haram (Probably only because they were a threat to him). I always believed Nigeria was well balanced with Muslims and Christian relations compared to most of Africa but it seems I was mistaking.
  4. I was reading this same story on the Christianity Today website and they mentioned that Nigeria is the 9th most dangerous country for Christians. It's unbelievable that they can't find ways to prevent many of these incidents when it comes to children. I suppose no security is fool proof but I cant even get into my son's Private Baptist school without pressing a button for them to see who is at the door and get let inside. If any children are under threat there they need to at least provide security that is armed better than the kidnappers.
  5. I apologize for my late reply to this but I am just now seeing and hearing about this. I've never heard of this guy but I have a very different view of Mike Pence since we have known him here since he was our house representative here in Madison County, Indiana. Even back then Mike was known to be a deeply religious and godly man and found support among Indiana Christians. Many people in our IFB church knew him and supported his run for Governor. Several years ago when our Pastor Dr. Leigh Crockett died we received a letter from Governor Pence that was read to the congregation at the funeral. I can remember back as a representative he was visiting one of the local Wednesday night church services andwas taking questions. One person asked him if he knew the Bush administrations stance on the State of Israel. He answered by telling about a meeting with Condelizza Rice where she asked him why he thought supporting Israel was important. He told us that his answers was that he believed it was biblical to do so, and Rices reply was that she believed te same. The Trump/Clinton election was the first one I voted in that I felt like I needed to repent afterwards, but when it came to Mike Pence I always believed he would do what he felt was right an consistent with his faith.
  6. The question was much easier with the focus on COVID, because the larger vaccination question is so much more complicated. I can tell you for sure that you will never see me post anything on here attempting to identify the "mark" like Hal Lindsey and Van Impe.(That comment isn't a jab at you SureWord...I'm talking about people who play "pin the tail" on the antichrist and the mark and are always wrong) I suppose my answer would be similar as my view of the covid vaccine - that you could make a case either way on which position to take. I personally would fall somewhere in middle. As a father I know how many vaccines my kids have had to have to just attend school and for the most part I see them as a positive thing. On the other hand if mysterious viruses continue to seemingly come out of nowhere and I continue to see ads on TV and YouTube practically begging the unvaccinated to join the others like a marketing scheme I will become suspicious and hesitant to just do what "most" people are doing. The issue for me is a very grey area and my reaction to the government forcing vaccines on the public would vary depending on the situation and what it's for. I would do what I felt was right and biblical over a man made government any day.
  7. Agreed. There is an older couple at church who have been going around telling other members or emailing saying NOT to get the vaccine. That is going a little too far in my opinion. If someone asks their advice about why they have chosen to not get it then by all means explain. I haven't been vaccinated but I almost never bring up my decision unless it's in context of discussion because it's such a personal decision. I am friends with a Muslim girl in Sudan and even there many people are refusing to take the vaccine because they're just as suspicious of the vaccine as we are.
  8. I have never posted about anything political on here but this is such a huge topic and I've seen personally how the Body is dividing over it. I personally have not chosen to get vaccinated yet because something about it makes me feel very uncomfortable. If the government demanded it I would probably do as they asked but I would also support those who would refuse. I just don't feel like it's the governments place to force things like this even if it involves our lives. I don't see it as much difference as telling the Snake Handlers Christians that why can't do something dangerous as an act of faith. I also don't believe the government should make Jehovah's witnesses get blood transfusions even if their lives depended on it (except for maybe when it comes to a minor) and also for Christians who refuse to join the military and participate in war.
  9. I started out using Mark Cahills tracts. They are rather lengthy and well made but they are meant to really help break down the Gospel. They are more like small booklets. I've talked to Mark through email and he told me he was IFB and always uses the KJV. He gives a lot of talks on soulwinning and has written books on the importance of it. My favorite book of his is "The One Thing You Can't Do In Heaven" which is save the lost so making it a priority during our lifetimes. Mark is probably most famous because of his friendship with Charles Barkley who he played college basketball with and his attempts to share the gospel with people like Micheal Jordan (who rejected it)and whoever crosses his path. Mark tells a story in the book I mentioned above about how Charles Barkley's brother flatlined and during the time he was dead he says his body went to a place that could only be described as hell before he was brought back to life. Mark tried to use that experience to try to get him saved but even then he refused Jesus. MarkCahill.org
  10. Oh I completely agree. I occasionally watch YouTube videos of these guys for entertainment purposes. The compilations they've done on Jim Bakker and his guest's are beyond normal and hilarious watching him trying to sell those food buckets for thousands of dollars. Copeland and hIs crew are on a different level. Between him, his wife, and Billy Bryne (spelling?)...I can't stand to watch them for more than ten minutes.
  11. It seems like most church growth here is mostly from people switching churches. I see people go up to get prayed for after the sermon but it doesn't seem like many get saved that way. We do have a lot of baptisms and people getting saved because of K-12 school that is a ministry of the church and literally attached to it. The teachers must have academic credentials and be a member in good standing at the church. The salvation of the kids that attend there is just as high of a priority as the education, and the church is used for many school activities to show the kids the relationship between the two. Sometimes the parents will get saved as well as a result of the child's decision.
  12. We have a Disciples of Christ congregation here whose Pastor is a openly gay and married homosexual but when I their "advertisements" they come off as very traditional in belief. That congregation is growing and has influence with the city officials and the "elite" business people. Where I live was the headquarters for the Wesleyan Holiness denomination Church of God and where their main university is. They started out very conservative but have shift mostly to progressive or social gospel. The church of Gods most prominent members are the Gaithers and Sandy Patty. I know they are not pastors or teachers but they still have influence...Bill and Gloria Gaither and Sandy Patty. As far as televangelists Kenneth Copeland bothers me more than even Joel. It's no wonder people hate our faith so much when all they see are money diggers like Copeland, Duplantis, Dollar, and the rest of them.
  13. Yes Joel Osteen is very misleading to biblically illiterate people. The mindset he uses by insisting that it's better to talk about good instead sin is absurd, and one of the main reasons many local churches are losing members rapidly. If church is just a weekly feel good seminar than there's no reason you can't just stay home and watch Joel. Several years ago there was church here that was very popular with people my age. One friend invited me to attend describing it as a "feel good seminar for the week with rock music". Of course I declined the invitation because that's not what I would consider a biblical church. Never talking about sin is dangerous. Why would anyone feel the need to get saved if they keep hearing that God loves them just who they are? I think Pastors need to be cautious about be MORE forgiving than Jesus was. If people in the pews aren't feeling even slightly uncomfortable for serious sins because you don't want to offend anyone...then you are in the wrong profession. Every liberal "Christian" wants to try to overlook sin by claiming we are the type of people who would throw the first stone at the woman caught in adultery, but even after Jesus forgave her....they like to ignore that he told her to "go and sin no more".
  14. Thanks for posting this! Justin Peters has several videos exposing these frauds for what they really are. My aunts and uncles were raised believing they are Baptist, but don't have a clue what it means to be one. They don't attend church or read their bibles but are always sharing some "inspirational" quote on Facebook by one of those false teachers. It is very disheartening to know so many claiming to be Christian can support any of these people.
  15. i honestly never felt like street preaching where I live would be effective in my area. I have a!ways preferred conversations over presentations when witnessing to someone, but I would use tracts mostly to give them towards the end of the conversation hoping maybe they would give it some thought later on. Ive encountered many people who will willingly engage in a spiritual conversation but refuse to take the tract for some reason. Then there have been a few times that I would just hand people tracts with less discussion which at times I would just find them thrown on the ground or in the trash nearby. When our previous Pastor was shepherding our congregation we had access to The Exchange tracts by Jeff Musgrave (from BJU) and along with the tracts we had all the study book series available for us to use if we found someone who got saved. This equiped us to be able to immediately do discipleship lessons with the new believer. Our new Pastor recently made it a priority to have our own tracts with our specific information on them. I haven't had a chance to look at many of them to see who authored or printed the new ones but I will definitely look Sunday and see.
  16. Brother Tony like probably most people on here I can certainly relate to your situation. My father and younger brother both seem to have no interest in salvation whatsoever. When my mother and laws brother died to my surprise my father called me. This is a man who isn't good at showing emotion or expressing feelings but on this night he was hurt and looking for a reason these terrible things happen. That was the only chance I've ever had to talk about Jesus with him and his mind was open hoping my faith could make sense of a tragic death. I embraced the moment and shared the Gospel without holding anything back. His heart was being pricked for answers and I tried my best to answer them biblically. I don't know if that night had any spiritual effect on my father because like I said he just doesn't discuss things like that. He's getting up there in age and pray with all my heart that at some point he has surrendered his life to our Lord and Savior. While my father would probably fall into the agnostic category my brother and his wife consider themselves Pagan followers of the Norse God Odin. My brothers Facebook profile picture says "I'd rather be a wolf of Odin than a Lamb of God". Despite my brothers beliefs he has never been hostile towards mine but his wife made it very clear to me once that "my Christian God" wasn't welcome in their home. My brother and I hardly see each just from being busy with life but it makes it nearly impossible to talk about the Lord when his wife is there to counteract. My brother has always been my best friend and we were closer than most siblings could imagine so it breaks my heart to not be able to reach him with the Gospel. My mother used to attend church many years ago but it was a Church of God (Anderson, IN.) congregation that is Wesley- Arminian in theology and do a poor job at presenting the Gospel because their beliefs have slowly allowed progressive and social theology drastically change the message they started out with. I have never seen my mother pray or even read the Bible...not once. She doesn't talk about her faith but when she does her beliefs are not biblical or severely distorted. The problem with talking about the Gospel with her is that she thinks she already knows everything and as long as she's a "good person" heaven awaits. I wish I could help by giving you advice about talking to your family but I unfortunately have the same problem myself. It's easier for me to walk up to complete stranger and start a conversation to purposely be a able share the Gospel, but my family just refuses to talk about or in mom's case has made up her own view of the bible and not open to other interpretation.
  17. In several threads I've noticed your posts come across as argumentative, and that's the impression I've got just from interacting with you here. It certainly felt like a debate after you suggested that I am spreading false information that needed to be confronted.
  18. Every thread on this board is full of people's opinions and in most cases good points can be argued for differing views so there's no point of debating. Unless the person opinion is complete blasphemy and without merit the one person's opinion of another is just that - a personal opinion. I am not a fan of Constitatine either but I know many Christians who believe he was a sincere believer. And I don't disagree that Roman Catholicism has been a disgrace to the name of Christ and Pope Francis still continues down that path. There are too many false teachings and groups to mention in a single post and I chose to specifically speak on JWs because in the original post that you took issue with I was replying specifically to SureWords post where he mentioned both JWs and LDS.
  19. Like I said in my previous post I have no desire to argue or debate over a post where I explained my own opinion and why. You keep bringing up things that having nothing to do with the comment in my post. I was talking specifically about groups that impose works and deny the bodily resurrection of Christ but claim to be "Christian". And I asked specifically who were talking about just so I could understand your position better.
  20. The Jehovah's witnesses may not be violent killers but they still have blood on their hands. An unknown amount members and their children have died from rejecting blood transfusions to please the "Watchtower". Who knows how many JWs have committed suicide because their family disfellowshiped them. Also the endless allegations of child abuse and rape keep coming out. When I said "more than" I was referring to their rejecting the basics of a false gospel by emphasizing endless works on members AND complete denial of the literal bodily resurrection of Christ. I suppose the "ecumenical world church" could have a just a dangerous false gospel as the JWs but I still have no idea who you are specifically referring to. Also in that post I was just giving my personal opinion NOT making a definitive claim. I wasn't looking to debate or argue anything.
  21. I will Google "ecumenical world church" because I'm still not sure what groups you are referring to. My opinion about the Jehovah's witnesses was based on the false gospel qualifiers that SureWord correctly mentioned in his post.
  22. By ecumenical work church are you referring to mainline protestants?
  23. You're welcome. I just appreciated that you inquired about where the information came instead of just wanting to believe it is true.
  24. I must admit that I am not familiar with the other 37 versions of the Quran, but if they exist I would love to be able to understand what exactly is different. I wonder if they are clerical punctuation errors or if they include contradictory "revelations" compared to the common text of today. If there are major theological implications I am surprised that Islamic sects like the Ahmadiyyas, Shia, Sufis, and even the Baha'i scholars have not searched these others versions out looking for differences that would support the validity of their beliefs over Sunni Islam. As far as an apologetic issue I personally wouldn't put too much weight behind these various versions to discredit the Quran and convert Muslims. The current accepted text of the Quran is already as false as any other version in my opinion and Muslims still largely believe it is divinely inspired. I feel like the average Muslim would completely dismiss the idea of there being other versions or would just see them as a fabrication produced by anti Muslims. If these other versions exist then I have no doubt that the Sunni Islamic scholars are aware of their existence and so it would appear they are ignoring and unconcerned about the differences. Im not sure I buy into the idea that Muhammad never actually existed although I am open to be proven wrong. Just based on the biographies I've read about him and the many historical events and places that are linked to his direct descendants it's hard to imagine how the Pagan Arabians could fabricate an entire bloodline and religious influence based on someone who didn't exist. Maybe if his influence was isolated to the Mecca and Medina areas I might be able to fathom it, but knowing that his nephews impacted the world as far away as Iraq with all of the historical burial sites there around Karbala it seems unlikely. I have always believed he existed and was a founder of a false religion that he helped expand and change the entire society of the Arabian country. There is one thing I have always wondered about him though...his motive. For years I have debated in my head if he completely made the Quran with his own mind and knowledge or if a demon transmitted the Quran to him disguised as an Angel. The claims of Joseph Smith and Muhammad are so so similar that I can't help to wonder if Mormonism and Islam came from men or messengers from Hell?
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