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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Martyr_4_FutureJoy in Patriotism   
    I am the granddaughter, daughter, daughter in law, sister in law, wife and mother of veterans. (WW1, WW2, Japanese Occupation Forces, Korea, Cuban Missile Crisis, VietNam, Desert Storm/Shield, Iraq/Iran)
    HOWEVER, I see too much of the need to 'export' American style democracy around the world to places that didn't ask for it, don't want it, and our young people pay the price. My son, who did two tours in Iraq explained it simply...he said "mom, we have no business being over there. Their tribal wars have been going on for hundreds of years and they're just going to keep on going. They don't want nor understand our form of government and wish we'd leave them alone." 
    The last "just" war, in my mind was WW2. A war that had to be fought to stop a greater evil. Vietnam, there was no exit strategy and was kept going so the war profiteers would continue to make money off it. Iraq/Iran, same sort of thing. Our fighting forces were not given the equipment they needed and people died because of it. 
    My beautiful son is now 100% disabled, has PTSD, and mentally ill. He has a traumatic brain injury that has totally changed him from the bright, loving, funny young man he was into someone who is dark, hateful, reclusive and so far away. He is 29 years old. 
    If someone wants to call me unpatriotic, then so be it. I've seen too much carnage from those who fought and died so others could fatten their wallets. 
    I long for the day when the swords will be beaten into plowshares and man shall learn war no more. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from swathdiver in What would you do?   
    Yes! It seems that men are given a pass...they just can't help it. 
    I work in a male-dominated industry. Yes, I dress fairly modestly most of the time, yet...it is not my responsibility to keep some man from losing self-control. I see many men wearing things that I might consider inappropriate...like the guys who walk home from the pool in wet swim suits that leave nothing to the imagination. I may notice it, but it doesn't cause me to "lust" after them. There's only ONE man that I go completely ga-ga over...just one. I've been married to him for a long time.
    This whole thing over pornography, "modesty", etc. is just an excuse for not exercising self-control. Personally, I have NEVER had the urge to look at pornography. It's just not something I'm interested in. I don't watch "chick flicks", I don't read romance novels either. I find them a waste of my time. Now, if there's a good sci-fi movie or series on, or a good drama, or something with lots of explosions and car chases, I'm there. My reason for not being interested in those things is simple...sex is not a spectator sport. 
    I spoke with my husband about this last night and read him some of the posts. Poor guy's eyes rolled so far back into his head I think he saw his own brain. Something about needing to grow up, learning respect, and yes, developing self control were in his comments. We're talking about a retired 24 year sailor here. 
    So, for all you men who are so fragile that the glimpse of a shoulder or a curve can turn you into a boiling pot of lust, it's not the woman's fault, it's your own. Seeing women as human beings that are not property to control will go a long way to resolving your lust issues. 
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    Saved41199 reacted to Thief on the Cross in What would you do?   
    Brother Stafford, may I ask how you would respond to the original question.  Please understand Im not trying to argue with you.  I believe by your responses that you love the church and its people.   I know we dont see some things the same,  but would like to know your opinion on what would Be the best way to deal with someone dressed like described in the OP.    If you dont want to answer thats fine.  
    Also I agree completely that both saved men and women are responsible for their thoughts and actions.   But an unsaved is not in the same way.  They are in bondage held captive by the enemy.  We should first be concerned with their souls , before clothing.    I dont want to forget those the Lord used , some of them were Harlots.  Why was Mary Magdalene drawn to the Lord, because he had compasion on her , I believe.    I would have to do the same with soneone thats walked in , in the attire of a harlot.    Maybe its because Im a woman, and one that lived in the world for 36 yrs.  I would like to think as christians we woukd put aside our comfort for a while in hopes that a soul might be saved.    
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    Saved41199 reacted to Thief on the Cross in What would you do?   
    I have a solution for the debate on clothing. We should all go back to wearing tunics like the bible times.   Yes Im being silly,  but honestly I would be all for it.  I wouldn't have to think about what to wear.  No one could judge another about their spiritual state based on what their wearing.   And comfortable!!  Im mean what could be more comfy.   
    I understand everyones point of veiw to some extent.   As far as bikinis and Speedos go.  I personally cant see anyone entering a church wearing one,  unless their intention was to offend.   Or maybe if you decided to hold a service on the beach, then perhaps. 
    I do believe that the IFB does put more pressure on women to be modest than men.   I see way to many men with their pants far to snug , And I have Never heard anything preached at them.   Alot of women now a days , (and its an awful thing) are addicted to pornography as well.   I do believe we are all accountable to one another and should help each other to not sin.   But it can go overboard,  thats why  so many of the Arab nation have their women wear burkas.    When we take all responsibility away from men for watching their eyes and controlling their thoughts, it puts a heavy burden on women and allows men to believe they are not responsible for their actions.    
    So many times when a Christian man falls in adultery,   what I hear is more preaching about covering up directed toward women.  The man is talked about as a poor brother that fell.   I find it disturbing.     
     Im all for modesty ,  I believe that I do dress modest , even when I do wear pants.   I see others will disagree with me.   And I know that many in my church feel Im less sanctified and a lesser christian because I dont see things their way.   I guess that's just the way it will have to be unless the Lord tells me different.    I do understand that everyone has their own personal convictions,  and I do respect that.    
     
     
     
     
     
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Thief on the Cross in What would you do?   
    Exactly. I know if I had been spoken to about my clothing the first time I set foot in a church, I'd have never returned. In my pre-IFB days, my primary wardrobe was jeans, concert t-shirts or tank tops and tennis shoes. If I had gone into a church and someone decided to pick on my wardrobe rather than being happy I was at least there, well...my mouth would have gotten the best of me and I'd have never returned. It would have also reinforced the idea I had that Christianity was some exclusive club that only took those who walked, talked, lived a certain way. Fortunately, we were blessed to find a church that did not look down on us because of our situation (pretty much dirt poor and on welfare). We were immediately surrounded by love...and that is what made the difference. 
    So, the next time someone shows up at church in raggedy clothing or revealing clothing, understand, they don't know any better and it's not YOUR job to point that out in their first visit. Love them, pray for and with them, and let GOD do what He's good at. Years ago there was a t-shirt that was very popular among the Christian crowd. It said "Fisher of men, I catch them, HE cleans them". There's a lot of profound wisdom in that short, pithy saying. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in What would you do?   
    Exactly. I know if I had been spoken to about my clothing the first time I set foot in a church, I'd have never returned. In my pre-IFB days, my primary wardrobe was jeans, concert t-shirts or tank tops and tennis shoes. If I had gone into a church and someone decided to pick on my wardrobe rather than being happy I was at least there, well...my mouth would have gotten the best of me and I'd have never returned. It would have also reinforced the idea I had that Christianity was some exclusive club that only took those who walked, talked, lived a certain way. Fortunately, we were blessed to find a church that did not look down on us because of our situation (pretty much dirt poor and on welfare). We were immediately surrounded by love...and that is what made the difference. 
    So, the next time someone shows up at church in raggedy clothing or revealing clothing, understand, they don't know any better and it's not YOUR job to point that out in their first visit. Love them, pray for and with them, and let GOD do what He's good at. Years ago there was a t-shirt that was very popular among the Christian crowd. It said "Fisher of men, I catch them, HE cleans them". There's a lot of profound wisdom in that short, pithy saying. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Salyan in What would you do?   
    I live in Las Vegas...there are times when you're happy with the bare legal minimum (which ain't much in Sin City). 
    In terms of "allowing"...it ain't your church, it ain't my church, it's God's church. 
    Now...quit it. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from ... in What would you do?   
    I live in Las Vegas...there are times when you're happy with the bare legal minimum (which ain't much in Sin City). 
    In terms of "allowing"...it ain't your church, it ain't my church, it's God's church. 
    Now...quit it. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from wretched in What would you do?   
    If a lost person shows up at church, they should be shown the love of Christ, not slammed for their clothing...they're lost, they don't know any better. Perhaps instead of singling out that person or immediately talking trash about their wardrobe, maybe have a member of the congregation reach out to them in love and disciple them. 
    No, I no longer wear pants most of the time, I wear dresses and skirts. BUT...if I had walked into a church wearing jeans and a t-shirt and was immediately run off, whatever spark of faith I had would have been quenched and I would have had my opinion of Christians reinforced. 
    DO not be a stumbling block to these searchers...if they show up at church, their hearts are tender towards the Lord. Foster that, nurture that. In discipling them, they can learn the other standards. 
    Remember, Jesus didn't toss anyone out for their clothing (or lack thereof)...why should we be any different? 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from heartstrings in What would you do?   
    If a lost person shows up at church, they should be shown the love of Christ, not slammed for their clothing...they're lost, they don't know any better. Perhaps instead of singling out that person or immediately talking trash about their wardrobe, maybe have a member of the congregation reach out to them in love and disciple them. 
    No, I no longer wear pants most of the time, I wear dresses and skirts. BUT...if I had walked into a church wearing jeans and a t-shirt and was immediately run off, whatever spark of faith I had would have been quenched and I would have had my opinion of Christians reinforced. 
    DO not be a stumbling block to these searchers...if they show up at church, their hearts are tender towards the Lord. Foster that, nurture that. In discipling them, they can learn the other standards. 
    Remember, Jesus didn't toss anyone out for their clothing (or lack thereof)...why should we be any different? 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from HappyChristian in What would you do?   
    If a lost person shows up at church, they should be shown the love of Christ, not slammed for their clothing...they're lost, they don't know any better. Perhaps instead of singling out that person or immediately talking trash about their wardrobe, maybe have a member of the congregation reach out to them in love and disciple them. 
    No, I no longer wear pants most of the time, I wear dresses and skirts. BUT...if I had walked into a church wearing jeans and a t-shirt and was immediately run off, whatever spark of faith I had would have been quenched and I would have had my opinion of Christians reinforced. 
    DO not be a stumbling block to these searchers...if they show up at church, their hearts are tender towards the Lord. Foster that, nurture that. In discipling them, they can learn the other standards. 
    Remember, Jesus didn't toss anyone out for their clothing (or lack thereof)...why should we be any different? 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from DaveW in What would you do?   
    If a lost person shows up at church, they should be shown the love of Christ, not slammed for their clothing...they're lost, they don't know any better. Perhaps instead of singling out that person or immediately talking trash about their wardrobe, maybe have a member of the congregation reach out to them in love and disciple them. 
    No, I no longer wear pants most of the time, I wear dresses and skirts. BUT...if I had walked into a church wearing jeans and a t-shirt and was immediately run off, whatever spark of faith I had would have been quenched and I would have had my opinion of Christians reinforced. 
    DO not be a stumbling block to these searchers...if they show up at church, their hearts are tender towards the Lord. Foster that, nurture that. In discipling them, they can learn the other standards. 
    Remember, Jesus didn't toss anyone out for their clothing (or lack thereof)...why should we be any different? 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in What would you do?   
    If a lost person shows up at church, they should be shown the love of Christ, not slammed for their clothing...they're lost, they don't know any better. Perhaps instead of singling out that person or immediately talking trash about their wardrobe, maybe have a member of the congregation reach out to them in love and disciple them. 
    No, I no longer wear pants most of the time, I wear dresses and skirts. BUT...if I had walked into a church wearing jeans and a t-shirt and was immediately run off, whatever spark of faith I had would have been quenched and I would have had my opinion of Christians reinforced. 
    DO not be a stumbling block to these searchers...if they show up at church, their hearts are tender towards the Lord. Foster that, nurture that. In discipling them, they can learn the other standards. 
    Remember, Jesus didn't toss anyone out for their clothing (or lack thereof)...why should we be any different? 
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    Saved41199 reacted to Jim_Alaska in What would you do?   
    She is lost, you can't, or shouldn't, in my opinion dictate how a visitor dresses. Jesus takes me "just as I am". We should follow His lead in this. The only exception I would make is if this caused some sort of uproar in the membership, then one of the ladies should gently take her under her wing and explain.
    I can't think of of anything positive that could come from trying to change a lost person. She would most likely just stop coming, which would be a shame and a lost opportunity for The Holy Spirit to work on her.
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Rebecca in Divorce and Remarriage (The Exception Clause)   
    I was married to a man who thought it was funny to beat my children, turn off the telephone, take my car keys, refuse to give me money for food. He finally snapped and threw me and the kids out of the house at the business end of his shotgun. He filed for divorce. I didn't want to even THINK about trying to reconcile with him. 
    Now I'm married (and have been for about 20 years) to a Jesus loving, praying, loving his wife man.
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    Saved41199 reacted to Alan in Patriotism   
    President Donald Trump, Patriot
    Thank you President Trump and your love for America, the Constitution of the United States, and the values that we hold dear as Americans.
    Alan
     
     
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Divorce and Remarriage (The Exception Clause)   
    I was married to a man who thought it was funny to beat my children, turn off the telephone, take my car keys, refuse to give me money for food. He finally snapped and threw me and the kids out of the house at the business end of his shotgun. He filed for divorce. I didn't want to even THINK about trying to reconcile with him. 
    Now I'm married (and have been for about 20 years) to a Jesus loving, praying, loving his wife man.
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    Saved41199 reacted to Joe Coley in Churches   
    Personally, I like the free meal Baptist!!!!!
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    Saved41199 reacted to Jordan Kurecki in Missionary School   
    Well, I graduate from BBTI one week from tomorrow :) 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from Roselove in mental health and other things   
    Please pray for me. I've had depression issues for many years, usually well controlled with medication. Unfortunately, I lost my health insurance last summer and along with that, access to doctors and medication. The walls are starting to really close in again and I feel that my entire existence is useless and a burden to my husband, who has to support me because I don't have a job. I also was in a car accident about a year ago and the daily pain from it isn't helping any. There are so many things I can't do as a result of my accident and it's not helping me feel any better about anything. 
    ***Please don't tell me that medication is baloney. You don't know what I've dealt with and how much strength it took to get through it all. I have a brain/biochemical problem, not a spiritual problem.
     
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from wretched in The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants   
    As a woman, I don't think it's a sin...there are times when wearing pants/jeans is appropriate. I had to wear them for years for safety reasons...construction sites are NOT set up for someone in a dress or skirt. I think modesty is more a state of mind rather than what's on your body. Its an attitude that doesn't call attention to self. That said, since I no longer have to deal with construction sites, I wear skirts/dresses much more often now. 
    I think the idea is that women should look like women and men should look like men. I think each woman should pray about what the Lord would have her do when it comes to wardrobe. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from HappyChristian in mental health and other things   
    well, the good news is that I was able to get into a doctor and start back on meds. The better news is that I was referred to a CHRISTIAN therapist. I'm currently on some pretty heavy duty meds but the doctor is coordinating with the pain specialist to try to find the right combination that will help both the mental and physical issues. 
    About SSDI...I am hoping to be able to find a job. If I can't, then I'll apply for SSDI. We'll see what happens. I'd much rather work...
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from swathdiver in mental health and other things   
    well, the good news is that I was able to get into a doctor and start back on meds. The better news is that I was referred to a CHRISTIAN therapist. I'm currently on some pretty heavy duty meds but the doctor is coordinating with the pain specialist to try to find the right combination that will help both the mental and physical issues. 
    About SSDI...I am hoping to be able to find a job. If I can't, then I'll apply for SSDI. We'll see what happens. I'd much rather work...
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from swathdiver in mental health and other things   
    Thank you all! I found a clinic that does sliding scale fees. They're still a little steep but my husband hasn't raised a fuss at all. I got my meds today and a referral to a Christian therapist who charges very little for referrals from this clinic. 
    I'm looking forward to feeling more like me again. Please keep me in your prayers. You have no idea how much I appreciate it. 
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    Saved41199 got a reaction from swathdiver in mental health and other things   
    How do I know? Certain brain chemicals are used when one is coping with certain situations and there can come a time when the body's ability to secrete these chemicals falls long behind the brain's need for them. Use of fMRI (functional MRI with certain radionucleotide tagging) shows what parts of the brain are deficient in certain neurotransmitters. Now, in the last 10 years I have been through the following:
    #1 son - 2 tours in Iraq
    my husband becoming very ill 
    my mother's strokes and death
    my husband's extensive and life altering surgery
    Job changes
    having custody of my grandchildren 
    losing my job and becoming homeless (living in a SUV with 2 cats is NOT fun)
    You can be as skeptical as you want, that's fine, you're not living in my skull. Why did I start on them? Something about actively looking for a semi to run in front of, thinking about running my car off overpasses, you know, little things like that. How do we "justify" the use of psychotropic drugs...would you rather I became completely non-functional and end up completing a suicide attempt? I DO NOT advocate the use of semi-legal and illegal drugs. The medications I take are prescribed by a psychiatrist and I am followed by the psychiatrist and therapist. This isn't something you just jump into. I'll forgive your ignorance and/or narrow-mindedness regarding real physical/biochemical issues that manifest as mental health issues. 
     
    What Proof? Really? fMRI studies have been done for years regarding the use of anti-depressants, particularly SSRIs in the treatment of long-term chronic and major depression. I'm not stupid, nor am I ignorant, nor am I looking for a "quick fix". I have a PHYSICAL problem that manifests as mental illness. It is comorbid with my other neurological issues, ones that I was born with that you probably don't "believe" in either. That's fine, you don't live in my skull. 
     
    Without appropriate medication and treatment, I would be dead. I have 4 separate diagnoses...2 I was born with and 2 that developed later (trying to be "normal" and certain life events that knocked me down further than I ever thought I'd be). Now, by the Grace of my Lord I have made it this far. Did you ever think that the researchers that developed these medications were guided by the Lord, to bring relief of suffering? Or are you just of the opinion that I can't possibly be saved and/or faithful to my Lord because I take certain medications? 
    Now, this is the one and only time I will answer these questions. If you have anything negative to say, please keep it to yourself. Thank You. 
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