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Brother Stafford

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  1. 55 minutes ago, Jim_Alaska said:

    OK, Bro. Matt has tentatively given his blessing to a garden forum. I am going to go ahead and put one up, but need some input from members. I need a general name for the forum that will indicate a general idea of what the forum is about. I can do this two ways. I can create a general forum with sub-forums under it, which takes up board space and some sub-forums may not get much use.

    Or I can create a general forum with a descriptive name and let the threads within that forum define the subjects, something like The Lounge is set up now.

    I have church this morning and want to start work on the new forum this evening. But I want to ask those that are interested in this new forum to help with a descriptive name for the forum that will show on the main board page. In this respect, what would members think of the name "Homesteading?" Or "Self Sufficiency?" I suggest this because if you do a search online for a definition of those names, you will see that they encompass just about everything that could be discussed. Because of the topics a forum like this would generate, it might be better to just name the forum and let the subjects define themselves instead of having sub-forums.

    Suggestions?  :15_8_3:

    Thank you for taking the time to do this, brother.  I agree that a general forum without sub categories would be best.  I cast my vote for it to be called, "Homesteading." The less work for you the better. :)

    If you include a description beneath the forum name, you might include any of these subjects: Gardening, Beekeeping, Canning, Husbandry, Hunting, Fishing &c.

  2. @Orval I saw the photos of Orval's straw bale plantings and am very interested in them.  I have heard that you can purchase straw bales for only a few dollars each and that it may be a much cheaper way to get gardens started as opposed to purchasing soil to fill raised beds &c.

    Orval, could you share a bit more of your bale gardening experience? 

  3. 18 hours ago, DaveW said:

    Why not just sit further back where you can't see their bare shoulders ( all you could see from behind a seated lady, which they would be while the preacher is preaching), rather than making it so obvious that the Pastor is distracted from his preaching by your actions?

    I have a hearing condition that requires me to sit near the preacher so that I can hear.  I am not intentionally "making it so obvious," I am just looking away.  Why should me looking away from indecency draw more attention from the pastor than half naked females seated directly in front of him?

  4. Has anyone here ever grown fiddlehead ferns; the kind you pick and eat while they're still curled up?  If so, how to you start them?  can you buy fiddlehead seeds or plants?  DO you have to find them in the wild and transplant them?  I'd love to know.

  5.    Recently, I was asked by a friend of mine if I would recommend that she let her 5 year old daughter watch the Disney animated film, Prince of Egypt.  I have never seen the film, but from what I know of Disney films, I said, "Absolutely not."  She said she was confused because everyone said it was a good Christian film and that it was biblically accurate.  I decided to see what people think is a biblically accurate Disney film and so, tonight, I watched it.  I just finished it a few moments ago.

       I must say that I am not surprised that Hollywood had produced another biblically inaccurate film to add to the scores of others.  It does surprise me how many professing Christians actually believe the film is biblically accurate.  Very little of the film followed the Exodus account.  Even when they included accuracies, they had to simultaneously include falsehoods.  When they put Moses in the basket in the river (true) they showed it dodging a number of dangerous, near death happenings, like being hauled in by fishing nets and almost being hit by a number of ships.  They show Moses confronting Pharaoh, but it is Zipporah by his side instead of Aaron.  Zipporah, by the way, is shown to be an outspoken, rebellious woman with the ability to use a whip as a weapon, free herself from guards and is shown dressed like a prostitute.  They also play up the fiction of Moses and Ramases being best friends.  They insert ridiculous fictions and omit numerous essential aspects of the story.

       The inaccuracies, outright contradictions and inappropriate scenes are too numerous to list outside of a full critique.  I wonder if any of the Christians, who are fans of the film, have ever read one line of the book of Exodus.  Some say that Hollywood tries its best, but they just don't know any better because it's not a Christian industry.  I say Hollywood most definitely knows precisely what they are doing when they make films like this.  They are so completely off the mark that one can come to no other conclusion than that they do it to intentionally muddle God's truths.  Treat Biblical accounts the same way as comic book fiction and God is no more real than Shrek, yet a Spiderman is possible.

       Is it any wonder why The Shack has been so warmly embraced by the "Christian community?"


  6. 35 minutes ago, weary warrior said:

    I hope they do not accidentally wind up in a church you are in, and get asked to set in the back row so that you can maintain your moral high ground.

    Do you have a line you draw when it comes to the attire of women (or men) in your church?  Is there a point that you put the safety of your flock before the hospitality of the indecent?  At what point do you tell people that they cannot flaunt their flesh in front of the rest of a church who has gathered to worship the most holy and almighty God?  Would you allow your female members to sit in the front row in bikinis and weep that such broken women are at least willing to attend?  Would you allow them to flaunt themselves and ignore your preaching by giggling and playing with their phones?  If not, then where do YOU draw the line of decency in your church?

    What about the men and women in your church that are doing everything within their power to keep their thoughts pure and who avoid indecency at all costs (Psalms 101:3)?  What about those members and visitors, who are bombarded with hyper sexuality absolutely everywhere they go in their public lives, and are counting the moments until they can gather with others who are thirsty for holiness and where they can get a respite from the open indecency of the world?  Would you require them to stare at the half naked flesh and the skin tight attire of intentionally provocative women who position themselves in the front of a house of worship? 

    35 minutes ago, weary warrior said:

    I'm going to get off this forum for a while tonight and cool down. Because I am very angry right now. And if that's a problem for anyone, look up how many time Jesus got angry at the disciples, what he was angry at, and how he in contrast treated the whores, thieves and sinners.

    At what point did Jesus get upset at the disciples for asking whores to not attend church half naked?  At what point did I call the women at the church whores?  At what point did I say that lost whores outside of a place of worship should not be given the Gospel?

    We obviously have different views on this subject, but I would not compare myself to Christ Himself because of how I feel about it.

  7. 39 minutes ago, weary warrior said:

    You actually asked the pastor of a church that you are not even a member of to try to get some folks in his church, whom I assume from your story were there before you, to move to sitting in the back rows because their immodest dress bothered you?!?

    Sorry, Brother. I would have run you off too.

    He approached me.  I didn't include every aspect of the situation, step by step.  He called me into his office and asked me what my problem was when I was just minding my own business, trying to avert my eyes, specifically because I did not feel that I had the right to speak about the situation because I was not even a member.  I repeat:  HE came to Me.  Then, when I answered  his inquiry, he blew up at me.  Call me crazy, but I don't appreciate having names yelled at me for responding to a pastor's questions.

    It saddens me to hear that you would have treated me inthe same manner.


  8. Well folks, I am once again without a church.  I have been attending a local Independent Fundamental Baptist church. There are four teenage girls and three women in their early thirties that dress very immodestly for church, or for anywhere else for that matter.  They wear skin tight yoga pants, low cut tight tops, miniskirts, loads of make up, a few of them have multi colored hair and they are often on their cell phones. Lately, they also all seem to enjoy sitting in the front two rows.  Being a new attendee, but not yet a member, I have tried to ignore it, but it is next to impossible, since they sit in the front.  I have had to look down at my knees or out the window the entire time, which makes it look like I am not paying attention.

    The pastor approached me about three weeks ago and asked me, in a light hearted way, if his sermons were boring me, because I was always looking everywhere except at him.  I told him that it's because I don't want to look at the girls and women who are dressed in the way I described.  He chuckled and said that he's working on it, but they just don't seem to want to listen to his "suggestions" on the matter.  He said, "It's just not an issue I want to make a big deal about right now. At least they're coming, right?"

    I spoke with him earlier today and I politely asked him if there was any way that he could at least get them to sit at the back of the church so the rest of us can attend services without having to avert our eyes the entire time.  Well, you would have thought that I had just called him a sodomite, by the way he responded.  He got red in the face and told me that he didn't need some "impatient, weak willed pervert" telling him how to run his church; especially when they're not even a member.  When he stopped speaking, I looked at him for a moment, stood up, put my coat on, said, "Goodbye, Pastor," and walked out of his office.

    This is the third self-proclaiming IFB church, in my area, that I have tried and have found enough of an issue that I could not remain attending.  I have been trying to practice patience with certain things, knowing that there is no such thing as a perfect church, but churches that don't believe in soul-winning, allow pastor's wives to fill in when the pastor is ill, allow hyper-sensual dress in church &c. are not churches that I can attend in good conscience.

    So, I'm on the hunt again.

  9. I have mentioned previously, in other posts, that I fully support Brother Cloud.  I have purchased a number of his writings and find them some of the most accurate and helpful available.  I do not consider myself a "Cloudite," nor do I think of him as my pastor.  I just recognize that he is one of the relatively few men that address dangerous trends and doctrines amongst Christians, which others either ignore, minimize or embrace. 

    When I read his writings, I never get the impression that I am reading someone attempting to justify their own opinions with convenient scripture.  What is unique about Brother Cloud's writings is that it seems that he intentionally leaves himself out of it, focusing on objective truth of scripture.  I have no memory of reading about him writing emotionally and subjectively.  Certainly, he shares stories of personal experiences, but not for their own sake; he shares them to illustrate God's truths.

    I know of no other modern author who is as dedicated as Brother Cloud.  He has written an enormous amount of books (and offers a large number of them as free downloads), yet none of them are subjective fluff.  They are all sound works of deep study and are packed with scriptural support.

    Overall, I find him to be a very reliable source of information and I thank God for his seemingly endless devotion and dedication to furthering our Lord's Kingdom.

  10. 7 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

    Last couple years we have been inundated with preying mantises-hundreds, maybe thousands of them, all through the garden area: huge green, tiny sage ones, red ones, brown ones, tan ones-I never knew there were so many variations! They do great with the pests and are very inquisitive, climbing over everyone and everything, even a baby goat we brought into the garden one day.

    Cool!  I'd love to see that!

  11. Let's not get into gossip and hearsay about Hovind's case.  I have heard and read as much as anyone else and I have my opinions, but I wasn't there, I wasn't in court and I'm not Kent Hovind.  All I said, at the beginning of my OP was that the fact that I started questioning his integrity when he went to prison, not because he went to prison.  The event caught my attention and caused me to explore him and his teachings further.

    I have tried to focus on the things that can be known as a fact from his writings, his statements in his own videos and my own personal experience with him.  This is about Hovind, and his defense and promotions of his behaviors and teachings, not the IRS or the government.

    As Frère du ukulélé mentioned, this isn't the thread for discussing positions on the tribulation either.

  12. 2 hours ago, brandplucked said:

    In the wisdom of God something can be in process or even non-existent and yet God calls it done. This is totally contrary to the wisdom and ways of men. God refers to “the book of the LORD” before it is even finished and certainly before it was gathered into one single volume.

    God has preserved His words in the Scripture of truth that is recorded in heaven. They will never pass away. But we also see the Scriptural principle that, though His words may be hidden away or forgotten for a time, as the history of Israel itself shows, yet He progressively reveals them and when they are all gathered together and brought to light, then make up "the book of the LORD."  

    Psalms 12:6-7 says: "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever."

    Even at the time of the writing of Psalm 12 not all but maybe half of God's words had been penned, yet they are and were pure at that time. This Psalm says the words of the LORD ARE pure, and that God will keep them from this generation for ever.  Up to this point we only have about half of the Old Testament and it was in the Hebrew text.  God has kept His pure words in the Hebrew text.  GOD keeps His words, even though man may forget them or hide them away, or not even has access to them himself.  But God knows where they are and He will keep and preserve them from this generation for ever.

    Are all the rest of the O.T. books that were written after David penned Psalm 12 part of the words of the Lord? Yes, we believe they are. How about the whole New Testament? Can we apply the principle of preservation to the New Testament as well?  Are they also part of the pure words of the Lord? Again, we affirm that they are. Keep in mind, it is GOD who preserves His words, even though man may not know where they are, or has neglected them or forgotten them or doesn't even have access to them. This in no way nullifies the promise of God to preserve His words.

    Brother Kinney,

    How may I begin to express my gratitude for the time and effort you put into responding to this issue?  I don't seem to have the words, so please accept a very sincere, "Thank you."  

    Your response speaks to the way that I have come to surmise how God experiences time.  I tell people that God is outside of our conception of time.  I tell them that, perhaps, our human time and space is like a book.  I go to my shelf and pull out a copy of Oliver Twist, hold it out and say, "What time is it in this story, right now?"  For the reader, every moment has already happened; it just depends upon where we choose to open the book and start reading, but the characters, themselves, are bound by the illusion of linear time.

    Your explanation offers an almost tangible example of that concept and there were moments, as I was reading, that I got full body chills.  The pre KJV question is as clear as crystal to me now. Thank you again for your very thoughtful and thorough response.

  13. 8 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

    I just don't know that her method, which is point-blank bluntness, ("You're a liar, you do such-and-such," etc), is always the right way. I agree that some people need just that, and can accept it and learn from it-both she and I personally work well that way. 

    But, it seems that we are told to just just that; not to beat around the bush, but to address it head on; in meekness and charity, of course.

    8 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

    But not everyone does and she doesn't seem to accept that not everyone receives instruction the same way she does.

    It just seem to me that we are told how to confront people:  Bluntly; privately, at first, then publicly.  I'm sure that not all people will respond to God's methods, but I don't think that we should seek out softer or alternative methods simply because of the fact that people are hard headed or hard hearted.

    As I said before, it is not our job to make sure that people respond, it is our job to address situations in the ways that God tells us to.  If they still rebel, unless they are our children (or if someone wants to make a case for using a rod on wives or church members) then we must let God deal with them.

  14. 40 minutes ago, No Nicolaitans said:

    Does anyone know of a good Creation ministry other than the first three on my list in my previous post? 

    I'm not really a fan of "Creation ministries" anymore.  Every one that I know of has made it the primary focus and has spend millions of dollars on, what I believe to be, unnecessary buildings, staff or gimmicks.  I don't see any biblical precedent for a creation ministry.  We are not called to go forth and disprove evolution or even to attempt prove the existence of God; scripture just assumes it.  We are called to spread the Gospel.  Giant models of Noah's ark or an infinite number of books refuting evolutionism or even young earth creationism, are a waste of time, money and other resources, in my opinion.

    I used to be very into that kind of thing, as well as very into apologetics.  I used to think, "If I can just make the right argument, then they'll finally understand." What I have found is that the only thing that has ever caught the attention of anyone with whom I have spoken, has been God's word.  When you show people irrefutable truths, if it conflicts with their world view, they will defiantly (and usually angrily and awkwardly) reject it outright; even when you can tell that they know they are wrong.  They do that with scripture as well, but scripture is the only thing that I have witnessed having any awakening affect on them.

    When getting into a creation vs evolution discussion with someone, first ask them, "If I can give you compelling evidence that support my views, do you think you would change your mind?"  You will find that, more often than not, people will usually say, "No, probably not."  That is why I try to stay focused on scripture.

    When focusing on gimmicks or off-the-cuff logical debate, it is your logic against theirs, and they know that.  When you focus on scripture, and especially when you stand next to them and read with them from an open King James Bible, they can still disagree and argue, but they are usually aware that it is not just your logic against theirs any longer, but rather, their logic against God's word.

    (Romans 10:13-17) "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. {14} How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? {15} And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! {16} But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? {17} So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

  15. My instinct is to suggest that the first place to go for such answer, is scripture.  If you haven't already, or even if you have before, do an in depth study on the subjects of authority and conflict resolution in scripture.  

    1 hour ago, Ukulelemike said:

    Yes, I can say, "I am the man and you'l do thinsg as I say!", but I suspect most of us men know how well that works.

    As Christians, I don't think it's as much about us getting our desired results as it is obeying the commands and processes laid out for us by God.  If we are following God's directions for certain situations, but others are being disobedient or we are otherwise not getting the desired result, it does not follow that we try something other than what God has laid out.

    We know that husbands are to honor and love their wives and treat them with respect and dignity (and vice versa): 1 Corinthians 7:3-5, 1 Peter 3:7,  Ephesians 5:25, Ephesians 5:28, Ephesians 5:33 &c.

    We know that women are to submit to their husbands and they are not to have authority over the man: Ephesians 5:22-24,  1 Timothy 2:12.

    We know that we are to expose and rebuke sin amongst believers, in love, meekness and charity: Matthew 18:15-17, Luke 17:3,  1 Corinthians 13, Galatians 6:1,  1 Timothy 5:20, James 5:19-20.

    As I said, I would start in those places and go through the processes that God has designed.  If they don't submit, treat them in the way we are told to treat them, or, if scripture is silent on further treatment, allow God to work.


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