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10 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

But, again, please edit the attack on his character out of your answer. Thank you.

9 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

In any editing of this reply I would request that you also remove the uncalled for accusation of a brother being "given over to a reprobate mind." This is totally uncalled for.

4 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

Thank you for editing your post. I hope that you edit the post on Facebook as well

Just adding my opinion here.   Unless profanity has been used, I'm not a big fan of editing posts to remove things to which people have taken offense.  I much prefer clarification, retraction and apology and leaving the original posts the way they were.   Returning to past posts to remove content disrupts continuity and makes it difficult for others to follow.  Also, I believe it is a good example to others to leave the original content and apologize/clarify/retract in a later post.  This allows others to see how appropriate and courteous resolution is to be conducted.

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He, for example, thought "humble" meant "prideful".  [1]How do we even attempt to correct something so basic?  If he doesn't understand basic English ([3]and he's a white boy born in the USA) [2]how can he ever hope to understand the KJV?

[4]...he's spina bifida

1. You correct it by teaching him.  If you taught him the meaning of that word, now he has a better understanding of the English language by one word.  Some people need to take one step at a time.
2. How can he hope to understand the KJV?  With the guidance of the Holy Spirit and, perhaps, your husband (or someone else)  could sit with him and teach him; knee to knee, one letter at a time, if need be.  
3. What does being "a white boy born in the USA" have anything to do with it.  Would it make more sense if he were black or hispanic?  If a person is illiterate or if they have a shallow understanding of the English language, it is because of the simple fact that they never learned it properly.
4. He is not spina bifida; he has spina bifida.  He is a human being.

This is not meant to be unkind and please forgive and correct me if I am wrong, but as someone on the outside of this, you come across as bearing a great deal of resentment and disdain for this couple and I am guessing that they are probably picking up on that.

Might I suggest you revisit 1 Corinthians 13?  Here is the definition of charity from Webster's 1828 dictionary:

1.  In a general sense, love, benevolence, good will; that disposition of heart which inclines men to think favorably of their fellow men to think favorably of their fellow men, and to do them good. In a theological sense, it includes supreme love to God, and universal good will to men.

Also, remember what Jesus said to Peter and the disciples in Matthew 18:21-35 and Luke 17:3-4.

One of the cliche's they used to use in the church in which I worked, was that some people are EGR; "extra grace required."  If they are suffering from physical issues with their brains, they may need more guidance and patience than others; they may not comprehend things with the same ease and clarity as others can.

Have you ever considered taking her out shopping for an appropriate outfit?  Tell her how wonderful she looks in it and buy it for her as a surprise gift.  Perhaps you could make it an afternoon for just the two of you and try to really connect with her.  Apologize for any past wrongdoings and misunderstandings and show her that you are genuinely  interested in her.  

Contrary to popular belief, we can learn to choose our feelings and we can learn to feel affectionately toward people that we may have even hated previously; just as we can choose to behave in kind ways.  Through prayer and the assistance of the Holy Spirit, I have learned how to do this myself.

Definitely set boundaries with them and limit some of the day to day help, if they are taking advantage.  However, unless they are doing something that meets the biblical criteria of separating from them, don't give up on them.  Maybe even ask them if they could help you and your husband with a small, light duty project at the church; just the four of you.

When I start getting too big for my britches, I try to remember 1 Timothy 1:15.

If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you see ok?

12 minutes ago, OLD fashioned preacher said:

It's not my upcoming 40th birthday but rather 40th anniversary.

I thought your beard showed a bit more age than that, but I didn't want to say something and hurt your feelings. :)

4 hours ago, DaveW said:

Why is "abbreviated" such a long word?

Why do they call them apartments when they're all stuck together?

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2 hours ago, MountainChristian said:

With your infallible Bible could you please tell me who these prophets were and list chapters and verses so I can mark the references?

Could you clarify that a bit?  At first glance, the bolded words above give the impression that you may not believe in an infallible Bible.  Is that your view or am I misinterpreting that?  Please clarify.

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2 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

Why do you keep referring to me as "DH"? Just Mike is fine, everyone knows you're my DW, lol. You make me sound like Kim Jong Mike, "Dear Husband". I'll make you call me that at home now.

I had to look up what "DH" and "DW" meant.  So, whisperingsage is your wife, Brother Michael?

19 hours ago, RSS Robot said:

Positive response: "The way I see it, these people are addicted to fleshly music and they respond just like an addict when confronted about their addiction.”

Amen!

19 hours ago, RSS Robot said:

Negative response: “David Cloud, may God strike you dead and send you to hell for condemning another Christian’s music like the Clarks.”

The negative response above pretty much sums up the rest of the negative responses, even though the others wax on, ad infinitum, and in a way that warrants censorship of foul language, about how much deeply seated hatred they have for Brother Cloud; but out of their superior righteousness and love for Christ.

I find it very telling when opponents launch vile, hateful and profane rants when a calm, collected and respectful response would suffice.  

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11 minutes ago, Ukulelemike said:

FWIW, no one else in the church attends this site. Otherwise neither of us would mention much of this. The reason we feel comfortable doing it is because I susect we aren't the only ones going through much of these types of things, and are looking for experienced advice and comments. Not to aire dirty laundry.

I understand and it has not been too specific until the long post by whisperingsage.  It is my opinion that far too much specific information has been divulged regardless of whether of not they see it.  There is a difference between remaining as vague as possible in order to solicit advice/guidance and divulging the information whispering sage has just included.  If a person releases specific information about another person, without their knowledge and that they would not say in that other person's presence, I would consider that gossip.

It reminds me of a few women I worked with at a Church years ago.  They would say things to me like, "I think we need to pray for Cindy Johnson.  I just found out that she has been cheating on her husband and has gotten pregnant by her lover.  I don't know about you, but I think we should pray for her."

They want to gossip, but know that they shouldn't, so they hide their gossip in the guise of prayerful concern.  I am not claiming that this is what is being done here, but it just reminds me of it.  We don't need to publicly get into nitty-gritty specifics in order to know enough to give counsel.  If a solution really requires the nitty-gritty specifics in order to come to a resolution, I believe it should be taken out of a public forum and into private counsel.

It is my opinion that it is a bad practice and is also bad taste to do so.

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@Jim_Alaska @Salyan Do you think it would be better to close this thread and remove the above long post by whisperingsage?  It seems like there has been quite a bit more personal and specific information has been added and may be turning into a gossip thread.  If anyone else from that church were to read it, they would certainly know about whom this is being written.

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24 minutes ago, heartstrings said:

Man, you need to get into town a little more often...... :D

 

(Ephesians 5:15-16) "See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, {16} Redeeming the time, because the days are evil."

6 hours ago, swathdiver said:

If that little stainless revolver is a Smith & Wesson it's called or was at one time called a Bodyguard.

It's a 638. https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-638

On 3/14/2017 at 11:19 PM, Roselove said:

I don't understand why there would be no writings that i can find anywhere at all, talking about being eternally secure. I just find that a bit, odd. 

There are early writings; there are many of them in the King James Bible and the fragments that make up the texts from which the KJV was derived.  

• John 3:16
• John 6:37
• John 10:27-29
• 2 Corinthians 1:22
• 1 John 5:13
• And most clearly: Romans 8:38-39

Correct me if I am wrong, but you don't seem to be considering the KJV, and its sources, valid historical writings.  

20 minutes ago, Alimantado said:

You're not allowed to carry any weapons at all in UK--nothing that's designed to cause injury or that you're carrying for the purpose of causing injury. For example if someone mugs you and flees and you chase them with a brick, the police would consider the brick to be a weapon.

Let's not go there... the UK sounds like a silly place.

8 minutes ago, Roselove said:

Do you feel it was a common belief, back then? 

Yes I do.