Wmccarthy99

I Got a job Praise God! In two weeks I'll be being trained on small engine repair! Thank you to everyone for your  input and anyone that has prayed!

Thanks for responding 360 watt, and this gives me a little encouragement to hear that others go through this as well. I definately acknowledged my sin, actually felt sorrowful over it and believed that Jesus Christ could still save me, that's about as far as it went. I only finally made a confession to my mom that I believed in Him probably months later. I believed for a while, but went back to my old ways pretty much immediately
Recently I've realized I never really understood how one becomes saved. I knew you had to place your faith in Christ, but because of ignorance and false teachings I've thought that there was always something added to it like "commit your life to Christ" or "surrender everything to Him". 
There's a couple reasons I believe that Hebrews 6:4-8 is talking about non believers
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
 
The main reason being verse 8. I don't believe anyone who has been born again will be rejected, no matter how bad they sin. Also, the quick lesson of Esau in Hebrews 12:17
17: For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
 
As to being partakers of the Holy Spirit, isn't King Saul an example of this? He prophesied, and later God took away His Spirit and sent him a spirit of distress. Just my two cents though.
I have heard that Hebrews 6:4-6 is talking about someone who falls away in unbelief so badly that they never even want to come back, but I don't find that very convincing. The story of Jacob and Esau fits in so perfectly, the ridiculous trade of his inheritance for a bowl of soup, and later regretting it greatly,but not able to repent.
 

The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD. ~ Proverbs 16:1
I just read this verse this morning, and praise God for it because it comforts me greatly at the moment. I looked up the Matthew Henry Commentary on Biblehub.com and found out that every other bible rendering on the page besides the American King James Bible says that it is up to man to prepare his heart, but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord. So blessed to own a copy of the King James!

Now you can help Ken get that jalopy out of Barbie's driveway!

I Got a job Praise God! In two weeks I'll be being trained on small engine repair! Thank you to everyone for your  input and anyone that has prayed!

I Got a job Praise God! In two weeks I'll be being trained on small engine repair! Thank you to everyone for your  input and anyone that has prayed!

I Got a job Praise God! In two weeks I'll be being trained on small engine repair! Thank you to everyone for your  input and anyone that has prayed!

Thank you Swath and Brother Stafford. I'm going to hand out some resumes today.
 

Thank you Swath and Brother Stafford. I'm going to hand out some resumes today.
 

Just another lame excuse to keep the world in the spotlight and the things of God away, far away from his darkened heart.
If I were in your shoes, I'd witness to them, share the Gospel and let them "Christians" know that livin' together is a sin against God and they ought to get right with the Lord about it right quick.  Then I wouldn't tarry long until deciding to leave lest anyone think I condone such behavior and hurt my testimony.  If you have children, they may see that you think it's (fornicatin') alright by your refusal to separate from the presence of evil.
I worked for two different men over the years who began to cheat on their wives, I resigned quickly.  I worked for a man who was a professing Christian but loved the things of the world more than the things of God, he had no salvation testimony and made fun of my faith, I resigned quickly.
Either my boss is a genuine believer or I work for myself, no more heathens.  Course, my ultimate boss is Jesus Christ!

You have changed my view on this.  Scripture says so much about this subject that I am embarrassed about my previous posts on this matter.  Consider these verses:  Matthew 18:15-17, Romans 16:17-18, 2 Corinthians 6:14-18, 2 Thessalonians 3:6, 2 Thessalonians 3:14, 1 Timothy 6:3-5, 2 Timothy 3:2-5, Titus 3:10-11, 2 John 1:10-11 &c.  Open and unrepentant fornication and, not only forsaking the assembly of believers, but condemning it, would qualify for separation, I believe.
Wmccarthy99, I believe that your initial instincts were correct and that swathdiver's post, which I have quoted in this response, is much more in line with Scripture than what I previously shared.  I use 1 Thessalonians 5:22 quite a bit to discern the proper action to take in questionable situations and should have known better.
Brother David Cloud has fantastic teachings on the subject of separation.  He makes them available for free in eBook form and video format:
Biblical Separatism Video Series.  The Collapse of Biblical Separatism eBook
 

If they are members of your church or you all consider each other in a "brothers in Christ" relationship then you would would be supporting them because we are called to help each other in submission to God. However, if you have no spiritual obligation to each other and you are only working for them in the capacity of a contractor who was referred to them and not as a "brother in Christ" then they can more or less probably be considered the same as another heathen in the world that you exchange services for money to provide for yourself and your family. That is if your conscience will have it.
Matthew 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
1 Corinthians 5:9-12 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10 yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

Wmccarthy99,
Thank you for setting me straight. Due to the post I assumed an incorrect assumption.
To me, it seems like your pastor is giving you some wise counsel. As time progresses, you should have more opportunities to witness. And, Brother Stafford was correct, you are supporting your family; you are not supporting their sin.
It almost seems in our day an age many folks enjoy living in open shame. "Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them." Romans 1:32
Regards,
Alan

I'm sorry Alan, I'm not sure where I might have made it seem that I'm not getting paid. They do pay me.
My issue was whether or not it is right to be working on the house seeing that they are living there together unmarried. I talked to my pastor about it the other day and he said I should keep the job and just pray for the opportunity to be a good witness to them. Another man I go to church with thought maybe I should look for a different job. I was just feeling guilty and wondering if God's word has anything to say about this. I'm probably just taking this whole thing a little far... I have a tendency to do that. 
 

I don't think that God specifically addresses being employed by Christians who are living in fornication.  Here is what I would do it it were me in your situation.
If they were engaging in fornication in another room while I was there working or were being lovey-dovey-kissey-poo in front of me, then I would tell them that I was no longer comfortable working for them and that they should start looking for another contractor.  
If they are not home while I was working, or if they were just there watching television or paying bills or something, then I would treat it like any other job and mind my own business.
Of course, if you are just too uncomfortable with just being there, knowing what you know, you have every right to tell them that you need to spend your time elsewhere and just stop working for them.

I would probably take two things into account:
Is there opportunity to influence closer to the Lord. If yes, then it may be worth staying with that as your primary goal. If no, then you really have to consider the next point. How is your own conscience about the matter? 1 Cor ch 8 and ch 10 both talk about a man's conscience, and 1 Tim 4:2 talks about the danger of a seared conscience. If your own conscience is causing you trouble over it...... Those two things - is there possibility to bring them closer to the Lord, and are you in danger of searing your conscience? 
Only you really know these answers.

I'm sorry Alan, I'm not sure where I might have made it seem that I'm not getting paid. They do pay me.
My issue was whether or not it is right to be working on the house seeing that they are living there together unmarried. I talked to my pastor about it the other day and he said I should keep the job and just pray for the opportunity to be a good witness to them. Another man I go to church with thought maybe I should look for a different job. I was just feeling guilty and wondering if God's word has anything to say about this. I'm probably just taking this whole thing a little far... I have a tendency to do that. 
 

As you are helping a friend of the family, and not a family member, with remodeling work on the house, I would suggest you start stop working for free and charge as a professional for your time and labor.
I applaud your Christian ethics and witness. But, it seems that they may be taking advantage of your Christian ethics.  Remodeling work is not only hard work, but, it is a professional trade and worthy of your hire. You have been working for free and I would suggest you change that situation as soon as possible. A lot of good Christian workman are an excellent testimoney and they charge for their work accordingly.
When the Lord Jesus sent His twelve apostles to preach, He added a phrase at the end of one of His admonitions that I think is pertinent to every type of work: "... :for the workman is worthy of his meat." Matthew 10:10b
As a Christian laborer you are worthy of your hire. I would inform them, very politely, that from now on you will start charging them for future work; but you would not charge them for work done previously. To me, that would be very generous.
Hope it works out well.
Alan

Wmccarthy, the best way I know to explain eternal security is that when a person is born-again he/she becomes a child of God. A child can turn against his/her parents, a child can decide he/she does not want to be the child of his/her parents, a child can die, etc. but that child can never be un-born, and a child of God cannot be un-born-again.
Don

I Saw God
by William Leroy Stidger I saw God bare his soul one day 
Where all the earth might see 
The stark and naked heart of him 
On lonely Calvary. 

There was a crimson sky of blood 
And overhead a storm; 
When lightning slit the clouds 
And light engulfed his form. 

Beyond the storm a rainbow lent 
A light to every clod, 
And on that cross mine eyes beheld 
The naked soul of God. 

I Saw God
by William Leroy Stidger I saw God bare his soul one day 
Where all the earth might see 
The stark and naked heart of him 
On lonely Calvary. 

There was a crimson sky of blood 
And overhead a storm; 
When lightning slit the clouds 
And light engulfed his form. 

Beyond the storm a rainbow lent 
A light to every clod, 
And on that cross mine eyes beheld 
The naked soul of God. 

I Saw God
by William Leroy Stidger I saw God bare his soul one day 
Where all the earth might see 
The stark and naked heart of him 
On lonely Calvary. 

There was a crimson sky of blood 
And overhead a storm; 
When lightning slit the clouds 
And light engulfed his form. 

Beyond the storm a rainbow lent 
A light to every clod, 
And on that cross mine eyes beheld 
The naked soul of God. 

The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD. ~ Proverbs 16:1
I just read this verse this morning, and praise God for it because it comforts me greatly at the moment. I looked up the Matthew Henry Commentary on Biblehub.com and found out that every other bible rendering on the page besides the American King James Bible says that it is up to man to prepare his heart, but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord. So blessed to own a copy of the King James!

The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD. ~ Proverbs 16:1
I just read this verse this morning, and praise God for it because it comforts me greatly at the moment. I looked up the Matthew Henry Commentary on Biblehub.com and found out that every other bible rendering on the page besides the American King James Bible says that it is up to man to prepare his heart, but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord. So blessed to own a copy of the King James!