Scott Lyons

Submission as a requirement for salvation is works as well! That is Lordship Salvation and is a false gospel! So your definition of repentance is wrong as well my friend.

I never said it wasn't. The problem is you have a wrong definition of repentance which results in works! Repentance is simply a change of mind, period. It is not turning from sin or repenting of sin. Your definition is what John MacArthur teaches and he is the posterboy for Lordship Salvation. So instead of saying that it isn't Lordship Salvation, why don't you research it for yourself? God bless!

That isn't what you posted in your OP! What you posted in your OP is Lordship Salvation, it is works and is heresy, a false gospel! Nice try though!

Yes in Matthew 3:2, and Mark 1:15 repent means to change your mind. Change your mind for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. And The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: change your mind ye, and believe the gospel. NOT repent of your sins! Does it say repent of your sins in those verses? No it does not! It says repent! Repent is the Greek word Metanoeo which means to change your mind or thinking.

Repent is from the Greek word Metanoeo which means to change your mind or change your thinking. It does not mean to turn from sin or repent of sin. You will not see the exact phrase "repent of sin" anywhere in the Bible. And the Greek words for turn and repent are completely different words! So to tell someone that they must repent of their sins, or turn from their sins in order to be saved is heresy! It is false! That is Lordship Salvation! I will link an article by the late A. Ray Stanford in explaining exactly what repentance is in regards to salvation. And if we do have to repent or turn from all our sins, have you done that? http://www.biblelineministries.org/onlinebooks/handbook-of-personal-evangelism/ch6.html

This is WORKS! It is Lordship Salvation! Repentance is from the Greek word Metanoia which means to change one's mind or thinking. Not repent of sin, repent of sins, turn from sin, turn from sins, none of that as those are all WORKS!

Want an eye opener on just how evil MacArthur and his schools are? Read this! http://www.brentdetwiler.com/brentdetwilercom/the-account-of-john-macarthur-rick-hollands-horrific-handlin.html

Both Calvinism and Arminianism are heresy! Calvinism teaches that if a person walks away from the faith and rejects Christianity they were not saved to begin with and Arminianism teaches that if a person walks away from the faith and rejects Christianity that they lost their salvation. Both are absolutely false! The Holy Spirit seals us once we are saved and no one can pluck a believer out of God's hand. The moment you believe and trust the gospel, you are saved and have eternal life which can never be lost! Calvinism and Arminianism are both from the pit of hell and must be avoided!!!

I am a former Calvinist and Lordship Salvationist as well. I was for five years. I was finally excommunicated and shunned from my former church, GraceLife Church of Edmonton. It is a cult and is to be avoided!

Calvinism is from the pit of hell!

Oh yeah you are! Do you understand what the doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints is? They will tell you it is eternal security but it is not. One must persevere in GOOD WORKS to prove that they are one of the elect. If a person backslides or falls away it proves they were never saved to begin with according to Calvinism. So you my friend if you do believe you are one of the "elect", you cannot know if you are saved until after you die! How many good works must a person do to prove they are one of the elect? This is where Calvinists become fruit inspectors and judge other people on whether they are truly saved and one of the elect or not. By the way, election and being elect has nothing to do with salvation. Election is to service! I suggest you study your theology a bit more.

Again outsourcing your sense-making to men instead of Scripture! I don't care what those men said. What does the plain reading of Scripture say? And yes those men were heretics! If they preached and taught Calvinism, which they did, they are heretics because Calvinism is a false gospel of works. None of the five points of the TULIP are supported by Scripture!

Doesn't make it right! The Calvinist's authority is NOT Scripture but IS Calvinism! Calvinists have outsourced their sense-making to "giants of the faith" like Luther, Edwards, Knox, Gill, and even Calvin himself instead of Scripture! Calvinists don't think for themselves and say "well John Knox says, or Calvin Says, or Jonathan Edwards says" instead of saying exactly what Scripture says! I don't care about what those men said. They were all heretics!