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1Timothy115

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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Who wrote this?   
    Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. - I John 2:23
    Italics. Everything after the colon was ADDED by the KJV translators yet we still consider them the inspired words of God yet then deny the translators were under any kind of inspiration (according to Job 32:8 inspiration gives understanding). Curious. I think we confuse "inspiration" with "revelation" when it comes to the scriptures. 
    The workers in Exodus who built the tabernacle we in a sense under the inspiration of God. Exodus 31:1-6
    It think we've boxed in what the term "inspiration" means.
    Now, the term "revelation" is a whole 'nuther ball game. There are no more revelations, at least, not until the Great Tribulation.
    Use whatever terminology we want, inspired or preserved, but those words after that colon were not in the "originals" (that nobody has ever seen or read in nearly two thousand years).
    I've seen Christians disfellowship each other over semantics when at the end of the day they both believe the same exact thing, i.e. that the KJV is the inspired/preserved word of God.
    Now back to Moses. 
    I don't see why the Pentateuch can't be attributed to Moses yet not written by him but by someone else. We have the gospels of our Lord Jesus Christ yet we know he didn't write them but they are still about him and his wondrous works. I don't see why that can't be applied also to the 5 Books of Moses.
    Yet, this isn't something I would harp on. 
     
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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Who wrote this?   
    If I may chime in there's nothing that I know of that states that Moses actually wrote the Pentateuch. But remember, holy men of God SPAKE (not wrote) as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. It's definitely his words yet there are passages that probably weren't written by him like Numbers 12:3 and Joshua 24:26 suggests Joshua may have written down the words of the Pentateuch.
    Now in Jeremiah 36  when Jeremiah tells Baruch to write down the words that God gave him and read them to king Jehoiakim who preceded to cut up the leaves and toss them into a fire. Baruch was then commanded by Jeremiah to rewrite the words he was told and Baruch also ADDED more words to the scripture (Jer. 36:32). 
    My point is that I don't see much difference, if any at all, between inspiration and preservation. Holy men of God were inspired, spoke the words, and those words were preserved by being written down. The KJV translators ADDED words that were not in the "original manuscripts" yet they are still the inspired words of God.
    So, if Moses did or did not actually write the Pentateuch it is still the inspired words of God written down and preserved by perhaps Joshua and passed on to the Levitical priests.
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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Quotations Anyone?   
    For the transgression of a land many are the princes thereof: but by a man of understanding and knowledge the state thereof shall be prolonged.- Proverbs 28:2
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    1Timothy115 got a reaction from BrotherTony in Quotations Anyone?   
    “When God wants to judge a nation, He gives them wicked rulers.” ~ John Calvin
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    "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."  Jim Elliot
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    "You may delay, but time will not."
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    “They (the Arabs) are as unstable as water, and like water would perhaps finally prevail.” T. E. Lawrence in his Seven Pillars of Wisdom.
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    1Timothy115 reacted to jeff_student_of_Jesus in Quotations Anyone?   
    KJV
    Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
    6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
    7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
    1 Peter 2:18, KJV: "Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear;
     
    not only to the good and gentle,
     
    but also to the froward."
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    1Timothy115 got a reaction from Ukulelemike in Israeli archeologists discover new Dead Sea Scrolls for first time in 60 years   
    Climate! Yes and the world wide catastrophic flood changed the climate and which is still returning to its pre-flood state even today. So carbon dating is not a reliable source.
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    1Timothy115 reacted to Bouncing Bill in Quotations Anyone?   
    Doris Harris tells of a “dear old lady” who was asked about her excellent complexion and bright attitude. She replied, in effect, “I use my lips for Truth, for my voice, Kindness, for my eyes Compassion, for my hands Charity, for my figure Uprightness, for my heart Love and for any who don’t like me, Prayer.”
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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Quotations Anyone?   
    "Although my memory's fading, I remember two things very clearly: I am a great sinner and Christ is a great Savior."
    John Newton
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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Quotations Anyone?   
    "For feelings come and feelings go, and feelings are deceiving; My warrant is the Word of God, Nought else is worth believing."
    Attributed to Martin Luther
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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Calvinism   
    Because you don't throw out the baby with the bath water. Too much cancel culture among Fundamentalists.
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    1Timothy115 got a reaction from SureWord in Israeli archeologists discover new Dead Sea Scrolls for first time in 60 years   
    Climate! Yes and the world wide catastrophic flood changed the climate and which is still returning to its pre-flood state even today. So carbon dating is not a reliable source.
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    1Timothy115 reacted to SureWord in Quotations Anyone?   
    "I have often thought that the best Christians are found in the worst of times."
    John Bunyan
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    1Timothy115 got a reaction from Alan in Quotations Anyone?   
    Whoever said it, I like it.
     
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    "The Missionary Conference is the business meeting of the church to determine the fate of the heathen." Dr. Charles Keen, First Baptist Church, Milford, Ohio
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    "The aim and final end of all music should be none other than the glory of God and the refreshment of the soul."
    J.S. Bach
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    “You don’t have to burn books to destroy a culture. Just get people to stop reading them.” – Ray Bradbury
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    It is not titles that honor men, but men that honor titles. - Niccolo Machiavelli
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    1Timothy115 got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in God is not in all his thoughts.   
    Thanks Jim, I may have some folks I need to share The Social Dilemma with. I read a book which discussed some of those things, Christians in the Age of Outrage by Ed Stetzer.
    Praise God for keeping us on His side of His Word. There may come a 'genius' from among the technocrats who will offer the lost a false eternal life, like a false profit possibly as described in Revelation 13. My pastor mentioned an explosion of technological advances toward the last days based on the scripture you quoted from Daniel. He also discussed advances that many if not most of us have observed in our lifetime and how the developments and discoveries are accelerating.
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    1Timothy115 reacted to Bouncing Bill in Quotations Anyone?   
    Travel light, move fast.
    Title of book by Alexandra Fuller.  Good advice IMHO. It is a good read.
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    What we become depends on what we read after all of the professors have finished with us. The greatest university of all is a collection of books.
    Thomas Carlyle
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    If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.
    - George S. Patton
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    1Timothy115 reacted to Alan in God is not in all his thoughts.   
    The individuals that I am thinking of are using pseudonyms. Even though they are using pseudonyms I have read their (some of them), background, computers OS's they are familiar with (some list the different OS's they use), and noticed the material that they post, over several years, to know their knowledge of modern technology is expansive. Also, some are Systems Analysts and programmers and some work for major technological businesses in management and development. I do respect their computer programming and expertise.
     
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