1Timothy115

On 1/22/2023 at 10:51 PM, Jerry said:

Yes, but when it is a false Jesus, the truth about Christ is not being preached. Preaching A Jesus is not enough, and Paul and the other NT writers warned various times about that.

2 Corinthians 11:3-4 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

If someone is not preaching that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh (like the Mormons, who believe Jesus is a man who became a god), then they are not of God and are warned against.

I am persuaded by the scriptures you mention and the scripture I have mentioned support that the errors of the 'Chosen' don't give rise to a non-Biblical Christ. Yes, they have embellished the story of Christ's life but I've seen no attack on Christ's deity. I've not heard this program denies the birth-death-resurrection Gospel of Jesus Christ. Neither have I heard that there is rejection that Jesus the Christ "is come in the flesh." The episodes I watched taught a Christ of miracles only very God could perform. I would further say, I've not heard of revival as a result. If the 'Chosen' does further the Gospel, like Paul, "I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice." I don't see my reasoning as reprehensible toward my Savior or His Word.

On 1/22/2023 at 10:51 PM, Jerry said:

Philippians 1:18 "What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice."

3 hours ago, Disciple.Luke said:

I hope that at the very least it would help a non Christian become interested in the Bible so they can search it out for themselves.

I remember when The Passion of Christ movie came out and how popular it became.

The movie was obviously heavily influenced by Catholic tradition but I think the controversy of it sparked the interest of people who were in spiritual darkness.

I had two tickets I bought from the church I was attending at the time but was having trouble finding someone to go with me. Surprisingly my non religious Uncle said he'd go with me.

What I remember most was the reaction of everyone during the flogging and crucifixion scenes. I seen people jump as if they had been hit themselves and even turn their faces away from the screen.

I certainly wouldn't recommend the Passion as a evangelism tool but I also have no doubt that after seeing it - some of them had to be drawn mentally to asking why Jesus was so hated, despised, and murdered.

I only pray that The Chosen can at the very least be the start of a search for salvation  for some 

I understand what you're saying, and I don't disagree with that perspective. I even have a scripture that speaks to your experience and reasoning, you're probably as aware of as I am. Philippians 1:18 "What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice."

On 1/16/2023 at 7:31 AM, BrotherTony said:

Please, prove your assertion. You seem to have a lot of negative opinions yourself. Thanks for your comment. Have a nice day, Brother.

 

Possibly a little hyperbole... It was meant for "or those you take issue with". Calm down.  You just throw around that word "negative" unsparingly.

On 1/14/2023 at 8:42 AM, BrotherTony said:

Nobody is denying that there is a growing problem with the use of technology and the addiction it CAN cause. It doesn't necessarily mean it WILL happen. Some people seem to find the negative in anything they can. There is such a thing as balance, and I'm sure many here, including yourself, that use a balanced approach. Your exhortation to beware is greatly appreciated and should be heeded, especially in those who exhibit addictive behaviors. 

Tony, you seem to have labels (negative) for everyone, and most thoughts people present; or those you take issue with. I don't suppose you think warning of the impending doom of the world is very positive either but, the fact remains Jesus taught us about its demise. Don't take things too personally or I might believe I've touched a nerve. Thank you for your comment.

On 1/12/2023 at 1:02 AM, Jim_Alaska said:

Some people use them to communicate. Some for work. Some for preparing sermons/

Jim, some use technology more than they should, and they stop using and begin being used by the technology. When they neglect the people and circumstances God has placed in their lives a reassessment is in order. I use technology but refuse to make it my alter for worship. What is common among the worldly is not uncommon among Christians, we are after all susceptible to the same temptations (1 Corinthians 10:13).

On 1/12/2023 at 6:18 AM, BrotherTony said:

Technology isn't the problem...it's the heart of the individual that is. Many use FB and other Social Media outlets for communication, dialogue, and even for witnessing. If we pull out of all venues we'll have no witness to the lost. So many try to cut cloister themselves from the world that they cannot be an effective witness.

Tony, the abuse in use of technology is a problem. The medical professions have recognized a growing addiction for cell phone use and an increase in children's addiction as a result. Anything we put before worship of God is a detriment. My caveat above was, "How many Christians are following the world's example of continual 'smart phone', computer laptop/desktop, or TV screen use?" Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

Facebook would ask me, "What's on your mind, David?"

Sadly, I have some reservations about putting it out on Facebook. Or at least not yet!

I hope I'm not speaking of anyone here but, please, no replies in the form of excuses.

How many Christians are following the world's example of continual 'smart phone', computer laptop/desktop, or TV screen use? This is where the world is worshipping their god. Their god of progress technology consumes them, and they are worshipping at it's alter. Their god controls nearly every aspect of their lives. They burn their dinner, they have accidents, they ignore the people they love, they risk almost anything to get to their god.

Praise my God, that he has kept me from the need to affix my every move, thought or action before the throne of tv, computer, or phone.

10 US Banks Participating in Test of Interoperable Digital Money Platform

Are we heading into a global monetary system? Is this a prelude to a speedier one world government?

It seems like Bible based prophecy is occurring at an exponential rate in the past two years.

Just searched the internet... Ohio Cigarette and Tobacco Taxes for 2023 (salestaxhandbook.com)

 Ohio Cigarette and Tobacco Excise Taxes

New COVID-19 variant, XBB.1.5 even better than Omicron! 
Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel, pictured, said that the XBB subvariants sweeping parts of the nation are "highly contagious," with spike proteins acting like "suction cups." (Fox News)

Suction cups! What will they think up next?

21 hours ago, Salyan said:

Did you know that the US is among the last nations in the world to still require foreign visitors to have a Covid vaccine? Y’all need to get on your politician’s cases and get that silly rule out of there. I have friends I want to come visit.

Might not be coming anytime soon!

Was he making a statement about attire may need to be considered in public?

Is he still living?

Congratulations! God is good.

The spirit of worship, the manifest presence of Jesus Christ, and the transformation of the ordinary into awe, wonder, and respect of Almighty God.

Psalms 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

It is not the images around us, stop thinking of self; it is the image we bear, start thinking of Christ.

Matthew 28:20b "and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

1 hour ago, bluewater said:

I'm just saying Christians shouldn't bring civil secular symbols into the sanctuary of a church. People will begin associating them with Christianity.

 

Well, at least you're not encouraging flag burning to oppose our nation's flag in our churches, I'll give you that.

On 12/26/2022 at 9:19 PM, Martyr_4_FutureJoy said:

I saw a fair number of Messianic Jews years ago,  and none of them as I recall indicated Jesus any lesser than the Father ever,  in practice nor in teaching. 

As far as the name, title , or label "Christian",  most people who identify themselves as "Christian" for about , what, 1700 years now,   are not at all followers of Jesus.   The name , title, or label "Christian" has been co-opted /is that the right word/  for billions of people who never once thought they should even try to follow Jesus,  but who 'joined' some or another group to get the benefits there-of for being 'Christian' as they were told by the groups who actually ignore Jesus but claim all the benefits as if they belonged to Him.

Interesting thoughts presented; I might like to examine the source for the statements. Where did you find your information?

BOOK: Trajectory of the Twenty-first Century, Essays on Theology and Technology by Lawrence J. Terlizzese

Excellent insight into much, if not most, of how Satan is using technological progress as a worldly god to further his purposes and entangle the lost.

For those who must have it, hort biography of the author:
Lawrence J. Terlizzese holds a Ph.D. in Theological Studies from Dallas Theological Seminary and has published three books on the pressing issue of faith and technology: Hope in the Thought of Jacques Ellul, Trajectory of the 21st Century and Into the Void. He has taught and several different schools including his alma mater Dallas Theological Seminary as well as Grand Canyon University, Texas Woman’s University and University of Texas-Dallas

It may help us all to pray, "Even so, come, Lord Jesus."

Merry Christmas Tony, Et tu, everyone else. Have a blessed and very special Christmas.

On 12/14/2022 at 2:50 AM, Brother Stafford said:

I have been hearing a huge number of Christians making the argument for leaving the Word of God out of discussions about morality when talking to people who don't believe the Bible is the Word of God.  Their reasoning is that their focus is on making social changes and that you need to use secular reasoning to convince non believers to agree with you.  I couldn't disagree more because my focus is not on getting lost people to behave themselves.  My focus is on playing whatever part I can in them finding salvation through Christ.
 

 

It doesn't matter how much personal experience we provide. The lost need to hear the word of God and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit...  John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

On 12/17/2022 at 10:36 AM, TheGloryLand said:

This is not impossible, but not easy to do. For they know to much, and they are smarter than you and me.

I bet you are a good fisherman. But, you catch and release the same one/s.

I have little doubt future generations will be weaker in obeying the Lord. 
2 Timothy 3:1-9
2 Peter 3:3-17
2 Thessalonians 2:1-17
I am absolutely and unequivocally positive about God's Word.  My optimism for the soon return of Jesus Christ grows with each passing day and each disgustful edict from our nation's elected government coupled with the permissive agreement of the electorate.
Matthew 24:12   And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Romans 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Revelation 22:20   He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

All of us need a good shaking and test of our foundations. 
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
2 Corinthians 13:5   Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

All that said and quoted, nothing prevents God from allowing revival in the hearts of men. We could see myriads of lost saved before "that great and notable day of the Lord come".

On 12/3/2022 at 12:58 PM, TheGloryLand said:

I know this might sound like a new negative post, but I’ll tell you what I see, it appears that religion and politics, similar in many ways.Looking at the Republican future parties, they are very weak, so as many Baptist churches, and denominations are looking very weak. Christianity seems to be in the minority now, not everywhere, but in the major big cities. Is this prophecy being fulfilled? Are we getting closer to the end times. Some might say yes, we are getting closer to the end of time, and at the same time, there are others that say, we’re still far away. Where do you stand today?

 

I believe this... Romans 13:11 "And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed."

I can't believe this can is still being kicked around. 

I won't accuse any Christian who watches the Chosen. There is liberty given to believers in Christ. I personally will not make effort to see it. If I were in a home where others were watching the Chosen, I wouldn't tell them to turn it off or I would have to leave.

On 11/28/2022 at 2:23 PM, MikeWatson1 said:

I think you can get some Messianic Jews who take issue with being called 'christian'

I've seen it in other forums where anyone can post in them.  It seems they will call Jesus (or Yeshua) the Messiah.. but then not quite give Him fully God status.  Doing what some others do in attributing fully God status only to the Father.  Jesus becomes a great prophet or 'demi-god'.  Denial of the trinity.

They will embrace Jesus-- but still have the OT way of service.  Accept the 4 gospels but reject Pauline letters plus other NT  books.

Then you get Jews who are completely bible believing and their Jewishness is in observing the feasts in remembrance, but they completely accept the whole NT and Jesus as fully God.

 

 

 

Why were the Messianic Jews brought into this? Just as a side note?