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    John Young got a reaction from BrotherTony in In a Local church who is supposed to get paid?   
    Not to nit pick but a lot of BBQs went on in the bible and were commanded by God and supported with tithes and offerings of God's people....
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    John Young reacted to Pastor Matt in In a Local church who is supposed to get paid?   
    To be honest, our church can pay whoever we want in the church and it's nobody business but our own church members. That is the beauty of INDEPENDENT.
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    John Young got a reaction from Pastor Matt in In a Local church who is supposed to get paid?   
    My opinion is that a church can pay whichever ministry worker they want at the level their church needs to maintain the level of ministry they want. You get what you pay for and part time volunteers can only do so much before the ministry or minister suffers due to lack of time and resources.
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    John Young got a reaction from Pastor Matt in Asbury Revival   
    All I know is that it Isn't my Revival. All that really matters is if those experiencing revival draw closer to God and not further away because of it. Everything else doesn't matter, ie opinions of critics and those looking in on revivals that aren't reviving them personally (because when you aren't being dealt with directly by God it will never seem real) or are only trying to find doctrinal faults in order to dampen its potential effects of their revival. Only they whom God is dealing with directly can truly respond to their revival. The rest is just sensationalism masquerading as revival and people with mere curiosity.
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    John Young reacted to Jerry in The Sevens of Revelation   
    Yes, that is a pattern we do see here and there in the Word of God. For example, I was just reading about Elijah (1 Kings 18:32-35) on Mount Carmel and that he dug a trench and filled it with barrels of water - four at a time for three times.
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    John Young got a reaction from Disciple.Luke in Asbury Revival   
    All I know is that it Isn't my Revival. All that really matters is if those experiencing revival draw closer to God and not further away because of it. Everything else doesn't matter, ie opinions of critics and those looking in on revivals that aren't reviving them personally (because when you aren't being dealt with directly by God it will never seem real) or are only trying to find doctrinal faults in order to dampen its potential effects of their revival. Only they whom God is dealing with directly can truly respond to their revival. The rest is just sensationalism masquerading as revival and people with mere curiosity.
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    John Young reacted to Jerry in The Sevens of Revelation   
    Interesting list. The two halves of the tribulation period are spoken of six times as to their length (once in Daniel 12:7; then Revelation 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14; and 13:5) - divided into 3 1/2 years each (not 3+4), and the Great Tribulation, spoken of by name in several places refers to the last half of this seven years: 42 months (of 30 days each, according to the Jewish calendar); 1260 days; a time (one year), times (2 years), and half a time.
    Here are some other sevens that I have recorded in my Bible app from various sources:
    7 blesseds:   Revelation 1:3; 14:13; 16:15; 19:9; 20:6; 22:7, 14   7 names/titles of Jesus in chapter one:   1. Alpha and Omega 2. The Beginning and the Ending 3. The Lord 4. Which is, which was, and which is to come 5. The Almighty 6. The First and the Last 7. He that liveth and was dead... and is alive for evermore   Revelation 1:13-16 contains a sevenfold description of Jesus Christ.   Clarence Larkin lists these Seven Sevens:   1. The Seven Churches - Revelation 2:1-3:22 2. The Seven Seals - Revelation 6:1-8:5 3.  The Seven Trumpets - Revelation 8:7-11:19 4. The Seven Personages - Revelation 12:1-13:18 5. The Seven Vials - Revelation 15:1-16:21 6. The Seven Dooms - Revelation 17:1-20:15 7. The Seven New Things - Revelation 21:1-22:5   Each of the seven letters follows the same general format: 1) Name (of the church that particular letter is addressed to). 2) Its Description of Christ. 3) Commendation: What that church is praised for. 4) Warning: What that church is rebuked for. 5) Promise. 6) To The Overcomers. 7) Prophetic Application (As revealed in church history, found throughout the letter.)   The word “repent” (or a form of it) is used seven times in these letters to the churches:   Revelation 2:5 (x2), 16, 21, 22; 3:3, 19   Seven times the Lamb’s Book of Life is mentioned in Revelation:   Revelation 3:5; 13:8; 17:8; 20:12, 15; 21:27; 22:19   Sevenfold praise in Revelation 5:12 and 7:12.   Seven kinds of men are mentioned in Revelation 6:15.   7 passages with this Greek word for woe/alas:   Revelation 8:13; 9:12; 11:14; 12:12; 18:10, 16, 19   The bottomless pit is referred to seven times in Revelation:   Revelation 9:1, 2, 11; 11:7; 17:8; 20:1, 3   Clarence Larkin lists The Seven Personages:   First Person - The Sun-Clothed Woman - Revelation 12:1-2 Second Person - The Dragon - Revelation 12:3-4 Third Person - The Man-Child - Revelation 12:5-6 Fourth Person - The Archangel - Revelation 12:7-12 Fifth Person - The Jewish Remnant - Revelation 12:13-17 Sixth Person - The Beast Out Of The Sea - Revelation 13:1-10 Seventh Person - The Beast Out Of The Earth - Revelation 13:11-18   The mark is first mentioned in Revelation 13:16, but seven times it is referred to as the mark of the beast or his mark:   Revelation 13:17; 14:9 , 11; 15:2; 16:2; 19:20; 20:4   Clarence Larkins lists The Seven Dooms:   First Doom - Ecclesiastical Babylon - Revelation 17:1-8 Second Doom - Commercial Babylon - Revelation 18:1-24 Third Doom - The Antichrist And The False Prophet - Revelation 19:20 Fourth Doom - The Antichristian Nations - Revelation 19:21 Fifth Doom - Gog and Magog - Revelation 20:8-9 Sixth Doom - Satan - Revelation 20:10 Seventh Doom - The Wicked Dead - Revelation 20:11-15   Jesus is called the Word seven times in the NT:   John 1:1 (x3) John 1:14 1 John 1:1; 5:7 Revelation 19:13   Clarence Larkin lists The Seven New Things:   First New Thing - The New Heaven - Revelation 21:1 Second New Thing - The New Earth - Revelation 21:2-8 Third New Thing - The New City - Revelation 21:9-23 Fourth New Thing - The New Nations - Revelation 21:24-27 Fifth New Thing - The New River - Revelation 22:1 Sixth New Thing - The New Tree - Revelation 22:2 Seventh New Thing - The New Throne - Revelation 22:3-5   From FBF Bulletin -   What Will Not Be In Heaven:   1. No More Sea - Revelation 21:1 2. No More Separation - Revelation 21:4 3. No More Sorrow - Revelation 21:4 4. No More Sickness And Suffering - Revelation 21:4 5. No More Sanctuary - Revelation 21:22 6. No More Shadows - Revelation 21:25; 22:5 7. No More Sin - Revelation 21:8, 27; 22:3, 15 A list put together by me (based on a general comment made by my pastor, but he did not have any specifics, just that he had read a commentator state there were seven portrayals of Christ in Revelation) -   Jesus Christ is portrayed seven different ways in the book of Revelation:   1) The Son of Man in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks, in Revelation 1:12-16.   2) The Lamb in the midst of the throne, in Revelation 5:5-7.   3) The mighty Angel setting His feet on the earth and the sea, in Revelation 10:1-6.   4) The Son of Man on the cloud, in Revelation 14:14-16.   5) The Rider (the Word of God) on the white horse, in Revelation 19:11-16.   6) The Judge on the Great White Throne, in Revelation 20:11-12.   7) The Temple and the Light of it in the New Jerusalem, in Revelation 21:22-23  
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    John Young got a reaction from Pastor Matt in 10 Reasons why you should not "Ask Jesus into your heart!" UGH!   
    While threr is "better terminology" to use, I have no problem with asking people to accept Christ that way. The concept is taken from various passages dealing with the heart and the work Christ does within our hearts. One of the passages is:
    Ephesians 3:14-19 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, 16 that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; 17 that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; 19 and to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

    Matthew 7:7-9 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 for every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
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    John Young reacted to Pastor Matt in How to evangelize to a LGBTQ   
    I approach the same way someone approached me when I was unsaved. Show them the love and peace that Jesus Christ offers. 
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    John Young got a reaction from Jerry in Dr. Gene Kim   
    He teaches against a certain type of hyper-dispensationalism but he still over divides and wrongly adds to salvation. Anyone who adds man's efforts, works or law keeping, in ANY dispensation to gain eternal salvation is wrongly dividing a work that belongs to God alone. Eternal salvation of the soul by GOD has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be by Faith in Christ Alone. Though they may not have known the method of salvation (on a Cross) nor received the promise before us (had to wait with Abraham) they always had faith on the object of their salvation which was Christ. Anyone who teaches otherwise is wrong and hyper-dispensational. You can follow him if you want but I stand by my statements.
    Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
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    John Young reacted to heartstrings in "New" discoveries?   
    Please read the following verse
    And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD. Genesis 18:22
    It plainly says that Abraham was standing "before the Lord" too, but I do believe it was on this earth, not Heaven. Again, neither of the two Job narratives say that the "sons of God" or Satan were "in Heaven" as well.
     
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    John Young got a reaction from Pastor Scott Markle in Dr. Gene Kim   
    He teaches against a certain type of hyper-dispensationalism but he still over divides and wrongly adds to salvation. Anyone who adds man's efforts, works or law keeping, in ANY dispensation to gain eternal salvation is wrongly dividing a work that belongs to God alone. Eternal salvation of the soul by GOD has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be by Faith in Christ Alone. Though they may not have known the method of salvation (on a Cross) nor received the promise before us (had to wait with Abraham) they always had faith on the object of their salvation which was Christ. Anyone who teaches otherwise is wrong and hyper-dispensational. You can follow him if you want but I stand by my statements.
    Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
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    John Young got a reaction from Jim_Alaska in Dr. Gene Kim   
    He teaches against a certain type of hyper-dispensationalism but he still over divides and wrongly adds to salvation. Anyone who adds man's efforts, works or law keeping, in ANY dispensation to gain eternal salvation is wrongly dividing a work that belongs to God alone. Eternal salvation of the soul by GOD has ALWAYS been and will ALWAYS be by Faith in Christ Alone. Though they may not have known the method of salvation (on a Cross) nor received the promise before us (had to wait with Abraham) they always had faith on the object of their salvation which was Christ. Anyone who teaches otherwise is wrong and hyper-dispensational. You can follow him if you want but I stand by my statements.
    Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: 40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
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    John Young got a reaction from 1Timothy115 in Members should have more access to their posts   
    Public posts are a matter of public record as well. I haven't seen it here much but in the past many people in certain forums would intentionally goad people into saying certain things then deleting key posts to make the person seem to say something they actually weren't.
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    John Young reacted to Rebecca in "Counseling"   
    A pastor can give advice, or counsel, but I believe there is a limit in what he can or should do within the confines of a pastorate. 
    I'm not a pastor, but I do work in ministry with ladies and children. Several years ago I was teaching a ladies Bible study when a lady privately asked for counsel. I quickly learned that what she needed was a doctor, and I was not and am not qualified to counsel someone with that level of needs. Unfortunately the situation ended sadly. This taught me to always be very careful with the advice I give and to understand when I am at my limit and the person needs professional help, not spiritual help. I would hope every pastor knows their limits and to know when to advise the person seek a medical professional. 
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    John Young reacted to Jim_Alaska in "sons of God"   
    Preacher, I would respectfully suggest that you do a search of this forum for this subject. This topic has been discussed many times over the years. I suggest a search because this has been requested by this board's owner in his published rules, which are as follows:
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    b) Please do a search before posting the message to see if the topic already exists. We don't need 3 different threads to talk about 1 topic. We will lock any double threads, 1 is enough.
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    John Young reacted to BrotherTony in Baptist churches that supports the LGBTQ movement   
    Very good explanation of the Independent, Fundamental, Baptist churches. ?
    Wish people would realize this about the SBC churches as well...they are all AUTONOMOUS Baptist churches. The only thing they are "joined" by is the cooperative to support sending more missionaries to the field, and they really don't even have to be involved in this. Many aren't any longer because of the influx of Calvinist doctrine and CRT being taught in the seminaries. Many, because of the scandal on the sexual abuse within those that cooperate, have withdrawn from the cooperative. I designate that the tithes and offerings to be used ONLY in the LOCAL operation of the church...nothing going to the cooperative, Lifeway, the EC, etc. 
    I DO wish our church held more to the fundamentals. This guy is OFF on the SBC...sorry. That's one point that I will disagree with. We are NOT a denomination though we're classified by the world as one.
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    John Young reacted to 1Timothy115 in Baptist churches that supports the LGBTQ movement   
    On a personal, Bible based note, it would not take long for me to recognize and walk away from any local church which recognized LGBTQ+IA for membership or office. If that is their position then I could not fellowship with them, only pray for them. I would not recognize them as a Baptist church, at all. But, if they have accepted this position then they don't care what I think nor what God's word says.
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    John Young got a reaction from BrotherTony in Baptist churches that supports the LGBTQ movement   
    Baptist churches have to make those decisions for themselves. If an organization outside of the church made that decision for them then it would not be a Baptist church in the first place. Baptist churches are autonomous and only Christ has the right to direct them.
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    John Young reacted to Jim_Alaska in Memorial services for those that served   
    Our church doesn't do a special service to commemorate memorial Day, nor has any Baptist church I have been in do so. We, and they, just make mention of it and perhaps  say a special prayer for the country and those who served.
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    John Young reacted to Rebecca in Memorial services for those that served   
    Memorial day is a US holiday, other countries have different days to remember their military veterans. Whether or not any church celebrates this holiday or merely makes mention of it to thank their veterans, or doesn't mention anything at all has no bearing on whether or not they are liberal. The Baptist church I attend does not celebrate or mention this holiday since we are not in America. 
     
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    John Young reacted to Jerry in Fundraising in the local church   
    I do agree with the premise of this thread - if all true believers gave their tithes and offerings as the Lord leads, there would be no need to resort to worldly methods of getting money. And, for the sake of the argument, if the Lord's people did not give enough for a need/ministry that came up, perhaps that ministry was not being directed by God.
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