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John Young

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  1. 49 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

    The order of creation is reversed however.

    That's the order of things brought to the garden of Eden and not the order of created things in the  greater world or the universe. Genesis 1 God makes the universe. Genesis 2 the LORD God makes a garden within that same universe with the same first beings and then brings it all there to make the garden. They were not created at that moment but rather brought there.

  2. 29 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

    And, you do realize that there are two creations stories in Genesis.

    There is only one of Creation. The second is is specifically of the Garden of Eden, not all of creation. God gave the broad picture in chapter 1 and then narrowed down in chapter 2 to what happened in that specific location.

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    On 8/30/2021 at 3:23 PM, Bouncing Bill said:

    The Bible is not meant and never was meant to be a science book.

    And yet when it does makes scientific statements it is always completely true and accurate and are meant to be accepted by believers as such even when we may not completely understand how it can be reconciled with current secular theories. We must remember as believers, the bible is written with the Spiritual as a distinct and tangible reality. Secular science however must by design start its observation on the lower material realm. 

    God starts with all knowledge of both Material and Spiritual but man's knowledge without God's help can only start in that material observations that are often inconsistent and have to be rethought when new and ever complex concepts are discovered. Its foolish to try to redefine what scripter means by the meagerly and inept theories when the Devine has clearly explained to us.

    “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.” ~ Robert Jastrow, "God and the Astronomers"

  4. Regeneron's Anti-body therapy (REGEN-COV) for Post corvid patents (the therapy that President Trump took when he had COVID) has now been approved for those who can't take the vaccine. This means that if you took the vaccine or couldn't and for some reason you got infected, then you can be infused with antigens to help reduce or eliminate the symptoms, depending on the viral load or aggressiveness of the infection.

    So if you declined the vaccine and get infected you may want to remember this drug name for later...

    https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-authorizes-regen-cov-monoclonal-antibody-therapy-post-exposure-prophylaxis-prevention-covid-19

  5. 41 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

    Pretty much because John says he "heard"  rather than saw 140,000 and how then mentions a multitude that can't be counted. 

    Literal virgin males on earth were sealed. 12,000 from each tribe, just as it was told to him. The Multitude he saw in heaven was a different group of slaughtered saints that came to heaven after the 144,000 were sealed on earth. The 144,00 are sealed on earth then go into the wilderness, where they are protected from death, for the last half of the tribulation. They don't go to heaven after being sealed but are gathered back to Jerusalem after the tribulation week is over.

  6. The concept seems interesting and the way you are doing it is pretty professional. Good job! As a kid I liked these sorts oft things and a nice uncle (like uncle charley on kids corner) helping out with life lessons for youngsters seem pretty neat. While you want to be accurate and moral for the listeners, a character with small failings is more approachable than one who seems perfect. 

  7. 5 hours ago, mbkjpreacher said:

    In fact there are many in youtube who already mix that pauline dispensationalism to Andersonism doctrine. 

    Granted you can have people try to mix doctrines from various teachers but that doesn't mean it's what others believe. There doctrine would then be their own doctrine and not the groups they got bits from.

    Also, simply stating the fact that the Book of John doesn't say "repent" or "repentance" isn't mid-Acts doctrine. The point is to show that when John says "Believe" it is the SAME act of Repentance that ALL of the Gospel books and Apostles teach.

  8. 38 minutes ago, Hugh_Flower said:

    these people actually send members out of their Church to disrupt other Church’s mid service,

    Was it actually members of their churches or non-member YouTube junkies who watch a few NIFB videos and then think they have a right to correct everyone else? As far as I know their official position has always been to respect the local church pastor and to keep quiet and respectful at any church they happen to visit. When I was pastoring in WA we would have a few from Sure Foundation Baptist Church come through on vacation or work trips and that was always the experience.

    I do know of one case where the pastor of a small town church in WA invited that church in to help theirs with some soulwinning outreach and things, which they were always willing to do for small churches that needed help, but in reality had done it to pull them into a church split that was going on. I don't know much more than that though.

  9. 9 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

    Most information I have on this group calls them a "Baptist Cult." Would you say that this is pretty accurate in your estimation?

    No I wouldn't call them a cult in the modern sense of the word. Its best just to consider them their own Baptist camp. We all do things a bit differently and they more so in certain areas. Just because one group of Baptist has different practices or doctrines than ours or another group doesn't automatically make them a cult. 

  10. 11 hours ago, mbkjpreacher said:

    The Dispensationalists believe many kinds of gospel and different plans of salvation such as the Steven Andersonites and many of his followers.

    Andersonites aren't Dispensationalist (They teach a type of Reformed Covenant Theology) nor do they believe in multiple Gospels for salvation (they teach faith in Christ alone).

  11. The Four Stage return of Christ - A Basic Revelation Outline, Part - 2 (See Part 1 and Book outline here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6s_Q...)

    The Return for His house the Temple. And the restarting of Israelite prophesy.

    Chapters 5-7 The Return for His House (Cleansing the Temple, 7 Seals) Time: Rapture til Midweek Chapter 5: Christ is found worthy to open the book and start Daniel’s 70th week (D.9). Chapter 6: Christ opens six seals, which initiates the first half of Daniel’s 70th week. Chapter 7: Christ re-initiates events of Ezekiel and Matt 23-24 leading to desolation of Anti-Christ Israel, The great tribulation, and the birth of righteous Israel.

         Christ, reunited with his Spiritual body, now claims his role as Head of Israel (5:5-6) and in order to restart Daniel’s 7th Week (Dan 9:24) as a judgment upon Israel (1 Peter 4:17, 1 Cor 11:31, Matt 23:29-39, Heb 10:5-10, Psalm 40:4-10, Acts 7:34-60) which had been indefinably delayed until the gospel was preached (Luke 16:16, Rom 11:11,25, Acts1:6-8, Matthew 24:14, Dan 12:8-13, Rev 10:1,5-7, Rom 8:21-23). The scroll is the delayed prophesy and seals are things needed to be put in place to initiate his coming judgment and to reclaim his earthly throne (The ark ), as shown in the visions of Ezekiel 7-11.

         This throne will be transported to Israel’s desolate house (the Temple in Israel), in which the Ani-Christ will attempt to claim by placing his image in it (2 Thess 2:1-12, Ez 8:1-4) midweek. This act cause God's glory to appear upon the throne, who then directs seven angels judge the wicked and seal the righteous in the temple and in Jerusalem (Ez 8:17-18, Ez 9). This event will anger the Anti-Christ who will then retaliate by initiating war against the saints who flee Jerusalem and enter the wilderness (Matthew 24:15-22, Rev 12:14). The anti-Christ will then initiate the “Great tribulation purge” by slaughtering any non-sealed but repentant people he can find and will reclaim the city (Psalm 79, Reva 6:9-11, 7:9-12) but not the temple or the inner court which will be divinely protected so that he two prophets God chooses can witness in the inner court before the temple doors to the world (Revelation 11:2-3, Zech 4:14, 9:8).

    Of note is the contrast of Christ in Revelation 1 and in Revelation 5:
    1. midst of the seven candlesticks vs in the midst of the throne, four beasts, and elders 2. like unto the Son of man vs a Lamb as it had been slain (Heb 9:26), Lion of Judah, Root of David 3. had in his right hand seven stars vs seven horns and seven eyes/ Spirits of God (Zech 3:8, 4:10) 4. have the keys of hell and of death vs prevailed to open book, and to loose the seven seals

    Summery Notes: Scroll represents the prophetic events promised to Israel that have been sealed until the Great Commission is completed (Dan 12:9). Christ being the initiator and author of all prophetic events has chosen to stop and seal up Israeli (and by default the word's) end time events so that in the church age only our commission is known (Acts 1:6-8). Breaking the seals causes forces to go forth and initiate the events leading up to the abomination of desolation which will cause Israel and the world to be judged.

    Seals: Horses: (1) War, (2) Famine, (3) Pestilence, (4) Death. (5) Prayer of Slaughtered saints, (6) earth quaking and heaven revealed and the abomination in the temple destroyed, (7) Silence in heaven for half an hour then incense representing prayer of the Saints is offered, just before trumpets sound.

  12. 14 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

    this preacher told me that Jesus had called his disciples the last six months of his ministry

    Maybe when he first herd this it was in a hoten' and holleren' preaching conference and the guy preaching said " Jesus got his disciples 6 months IN TO JOHN's ministry" but he was in the back the preacher was in a preachen' fit and so he heard END OF JESUS' ministry....

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