John Young

15 minutes ago, PastorMatt said:

A year ago I was called a conspiracy theorist for mentioning these types of reports

Yeah, but you first have to wait for the multiple triple blind muti-bilion dollar studies to show what we already know because, you know, science.

Des that mean the Roman Catholic church is Ana-Baptist now?

Coronavirus Can Spread to Heart, Brain Days After Infection and can survive for months in organs, according to a new study by the National Institutes of Health.

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If you pay taxes you support the government....

I'm Looking forward to this new health benefit!



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16 hours ago, Jim_Alaska said:

Bro. John, I believe that the verse below shows that they were indwelt by the Holy Spirit. 

1 Peter 1:11 (KJV) Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

While I don't disagree with this, I do make a distinction between their purposes. While "Spirit of Christ" and "Holy Spirit" and "Holy Ghost" is the same Spirit, they reference different operations and different relationships with the believer. The "Spirit of Christ" is given to all men from birth as a witness and to all who believe that witness He will give the "Holy Ghost". The "Holy Ghost" references His union and work within the Believer. "Spirit" and "Holy Spirit" references His work in general among all. For example in the NT when He spoke by David he is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" (Mark 12;36 and Acts 1:16) but when he is sealing believers he is referred to as the "Holy Spirit" (Eph 1:13-14 and 4:30). 

In the example verses below we can see the separate operations at work. My comments are bracketed and in Red:

John 7:37-39 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink [promise of present possession of Christ in them]. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall [future promise] flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

John1:4-34 In him [Christ] was life; and the life was the light of men [his light is in all men]. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou? 20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ. 21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

24 And they which were sent were of the Pharisees. 25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet? 26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 27 he it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose. 28 These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. 31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. [The Spirit of Christ gives power to men so that they can believe and all those who believe are given the Holy Ghost.] 34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

The key is understanding what they were being converted to in Acts 2. Notice these were devout men. Already O.T. believers. If they had died before Christ's sacrifice or hearing the message of Peter they would have gone to be with Abraham As they looked for the Christ. (Luke 2:25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him. 26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord’s Christ.)

The devout of Acts 2 converted to the N.T. faith and entered the N.T church (the body of Christ) as Christ of their faith had been reveled to them. The O.T believer gathered to Abraham and the N.T Believer Gathered to Christ.
 

"Being pricked to the heart, after hearing a very convicting sermon from the Spirit filled Apostle Peter about Jesus of Nazareth being their Lord and Christ, the devout Jews of every nation ask the Jerusalem Church what they had to do to receive Jesus as their Christ. Peter tells them that they must "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

In this sermon we show how that this was not merely for salvation but for conversion of Old Testament Saints to the better New Testament faith. This sermon and call by Peter was primarily for the devout believers of God who sins were already covered by the Old Testament and had faith in a coming redeemer Christ.

In this sermon we also deal with the differences between Old and New Testament believers. In that the OT believer's sin was covered but not cleansed so after death they had to wait, in faith, un-tormented, in hell, until they could be redeemed by Christ cleansing their sin by the cross and then personally going to hell to free them and take them to Heaven. And how they were covered by God's Spirit, but not indwelt by, the Holy Ghost. 

These OT Saints at Pentecost, having faith in the coming Redeemer already, needed to repent by acknowledging Jesus of Nazareth as that Redeemer and be baptized to receive the gifts that come with the New Testament indwelling of the Holy Ghost.

We also note that every Old Testament believer converted to the New Testament faith, by divine power, for the fulfillment of their salvation."

On a lighter note:

12 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

replenish the earth, and subdue it

As always context is key. The false theory of prior peoples has to take the verse out of proper context to make their doctrine. They claim replenish is referring to the people and then attempt to say this means Adam is and his descendance are replacing people that were killed off. They claim  The directive is for mankind but the context shows "Be fruitful, and multiply," is about the people but "Replenish is not about the people but about what the people are to do with the earth.

"replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." Means that mankind is given authority by God over the earth to "Dress and Keep it" as also stated in Genesis 2:15 And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it. 

Genesis 1:28 and Genesis 2:15 are companion texts teaching the same directive. "Replenish" with "Dress" refer to the same directive to put things back to how God made it and "Subdue" with "Keep" means we are to suppress things from over growing and keep it how God made it. 

15 hours ago, SureWord said:

You all insist on forcing that passage to fit your Baptist prejudices.

How many of you pull that verse out when you preach the gospel? Unless you are a Campbellite you steer far from it.

Baptist should not be afraid of any verse merely because of what the false doctrines of some try to teach about it. Baptist doctrine is bible doctrine in context for a reason, and should not be forsaken for hyper-dispensational theory, which attempts to divide out salvation by faith alone from any passage it does not understand.

15 hours ago, SureWord said:

Also, none of you can explain why the gospel was HID from the apostles while Jesus first told them about it heading to Jerusalem?

The passage does not say salvation was hid. Your hyper-dispensational doctrine is reading that into the passage. The passage (Luke 18:31-34) actually says the things "concerning the son of man" was hidden. Meaning the manor of death by the cross and specifically how He was to pay for our salvation but Saving faith was not hidden (as clearly shown in John 12). The way of salvation for mankind has always been clear to the OT believer and is the same for the NT believer. Believe on Christ and you will be saved by HIM. Scripture is clear on that point. 

 John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

John 11:24-27 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26 and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? 27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

Romans 3:22a even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:...

2 Corinthians 4:13-14 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written (Psalm 116:10), I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak; 14 knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you.

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

Hebrews 11:24-26 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; 25 choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

5 minutes ago, E Morales said:

good old email and text are still good tools, and you don’t have to see all other junk.

I get more junk in my email than on facebook. The key to both is to know how to use the blocking and spam tools. I have very little extra junk on my feed because I know how to customize it.

As a Pastor on Facebook with several groups, geared both to the lost and saved, I think more pastors and Christians in general should get involved in intentional ministry and evangelism there. Now if they are just there to chew the fat and complain and read gossip, or they are easily provoked or get high blood pressure, then no they should not be there or any social media platform. 

On 11/5/2021 at 7:11 AM, BrotherTony said:

So, how does one account for Peters allegedly being wrong about the time period and events?

He's not wrong but rather the time period has been drawn out. We are currently waiting on the Jewish nation to turn to Christ nationally by fulfilling the Lord's prophecy about them in Matthew 23.

29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous, 30 and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar. 36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation. 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Public posts are a matter of public record as well. I haven't seen it here much but in the past many people in certain forums would intentionally goad people into saying certain things then deleting key posts to make the person seem to say something they actually weren't.

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2 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

There are many different theories on when the Catholic church started.

A distinction needs to be made between "Roman Catholic" inferring Roman church authority and the general term "catholic" which started out as simply meaning the whole Christian body of believers.

9 minutes ago, palmetotwo said:

When and how did the Roman Catholic Church actually begin?

My opinion is it probably began to be a true political force when the last Western Roman emperor left Rome and in the power vacuum the Roman populace looked to the Roman Church for civil leadership and authority, around 476 AD.

3 hours ago, Guest Teeah said:

Why do we all make up these dominations? God didn't right?

While I'm against denominationalism. I'm not opposed to a church using titles to show what they believe, their church tradition, and who they fellowship with, and anything else that is important to them. So far it is the best and fastest way to know generally what a church believes and practices.

13 minutes ago, E Morales said:

Share your experience good or bad. I still believe it’s the right choice.

I'm vaccinated an I felt it was the right choice for my family after much research and speaking with our family Doctors. I'm 100% opposed to the socialist approach to health and oppose forced vaccination. It needs to remain a personal health choice. The vaccine did cause a normal immune response for about a day where we ran a slight fever but were fine the next day. My company under pressure to comply with the illegal mandates so is now asking for a copy of my card as they are considering implementing biweekly testing for the un vaccinated. I told them I'm vaccinated but wont be providing any medical documents as proof. We'll see how that goes. I may decline their possible future request to do testing but haven't decided yet.
 

Here's a few...

The Four Stage return of Christ - A Basic Revelation Outline, Part – 3

The return for Righteous Israel, Led by the two witnesses and 144,000 sealed and elect saints of God.

-Chapters 8-14 The return For His Nation (Saving Sealed Israel, 7 Trumpets) Time: Last half of the week

Chapter 8-9: Christ opens 7th seal initiating Prayer of Slaughtered Saints from 6:10-11, 7:13-15 and Psalm 79. and Six angels sound the coming Judgment of God.
Chapter 10: John is shown the Seven Thunders that will come just after the seventh angel sounds but before the vial judgments. They will reveal God's eternal plans.
Chapter 11: Two temple prophets described. Called away just before 7th angel sounds.
Chapter 12: New's Israel's Spiritual struggle with The Devil is shown.
Chapter 13: The earth's Struggle with the Beast and False Prophet is shown.
Chapter 14: Christ gathers Israel to Mt. ZION and gathers the World to be judged.

After the 144,000 flee Jerusalem and are safely out of anti-Christ/devil's reach (Rev 12:6,17) and with the two witnesses defending and proclaiming at the Jerusalem temple (Rev 11:2-3) they turn their focus on the world's remaining believers and attempts to slaughter them all in a world wide Great Tribulation Purge (Rev 6:11, 7:9-14, 13:5-8). Their arrival and prayers in heaven causes Christ to open the Seventh seal which initiates the 7 trumpets which sound the coming of Christ to earth to rescue Israel and judge Babylon for the slaughter. They are meant as clear and visible warnings for all to repent. (Rev 9:20-21)

During this end times slaughter the vail between heaven and earth is removed and can be seen by earth (Rev 6:12-17, Mat24:27). Heavenly destruction and signs are shown by the trumpets but the anti-Christ/ false Prophet manipulates many to follow them instead of repenting, by deceiving them in seeing heaven as the enemy of man and the signs as their own (Rev 13:5-7). This continues for 42 months/1260 days until the 7th trumpet sounds and Christ physically steps foot on Mt. of Olives (Zech 14:1-11, Acts 1:6-12) and Gathers his elect 144,000 to Mt. Zion from the wilderness (Rev 14:1, Mat 24:30-31).

In his arrival and just after the angels gather New Israel, he sends forth one last call to surviving nations to repent before reaping and poring out the vials of judgments on Babylon (Rev 14:6-12, Joel 2:30-32).

Trumpets: 1st: Hail and fire mingled with blood falls on earth, 2nd: As it were a great mountain burning with fire falls on earth, 3rd: A great star from heaven (wormwood) falls on earth, 4th: Third part of the sun, moon stars are smitten, and an angel giving warning of three more woes to come, 5th: A star falls from heaven (opening the pit releasing locust and the angel leader Abaddon to torment men for 5 months), 6th: Releases 4 angels from Euphrates which initiates an army of 200k horsemen (Joel 2:1-11) prepared to kill men (starting a year, day and hour before the last trumpet), 7th: the mystery of God as he declared to the prophets, is finished. And announces the arrival of Israel's Christ on earth.

Notes: The timeline for the end time is given by the following verses:

Church age: Now till the rapture. Rev 1:10, 4:1-2, Acts 1:6-8 (and possibly Ten days tribulation just before the rapture as referenced in Rev 2:10)

Tribulation (seals broken): Rapture till the desolation, 1290 days. Dan 8:13-14;12:11

Great tribulation: 35/45 days of intense killing after desolation and cleansing of the temple. Dan 12:12

Trumpets of Wrath: Desolation till Christ return 1260 days. Rev 11:1-3

Vial Judgments: When Christ returns, One day and an hour. Rev 18:8;10,17,19

Also current medical gender transition therapies do irreversible harm while not providing the mental peace and transition they promise to their victims. In the linked article they show the same faulty science that came up with lobotomy (trying to change mental issues with inept physical procedures) is currently being done with gender dysphoria.

https://inspiredteentherapy.com/parallels-between-lobotomy-and-childhood-gender-transition/

The book each one holds makes all the difference.