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I don't doubt that they are researching its possibilities but that's all it is right now. Graphene has amazing possibilities to be used in many capacities and products. However it is no where near production phase for what they are trying to claim in regards to mass producing biochips in vaccines. That's fictional technology cobbled tether from a few partial truths of what could be to make it seem possible for those who don't understand the products and mechanisms involved.
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Fake news. The person who proposed that was a psychologist Jane Ruby who gets sadistic pleasurer out of the fact that her myth is going viral. People need to be very leery of psychologist who make up rumors in order to mess with people's minds. She's crafting a story and trying to get people to believe it. (A similar thing happened with QAnon election myths that features several obscure psychologist that came out as experts and crafted fake rammers and stories to manipulate trump voters and state legislators.) These types are growing more and more because there is a market for them. Back in the day they were called charlatans but now they are today's viral "experts" whos only expertise is their online backstory and their ability to play on our mistrust of government.
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Texas Man in ICU After Getting J&J Vaccine...Has Delta Variant
John Young replied to BrotherTony's topic in General Chats
Technically today's "wealthy family" is in charge of a cooperation that is not actually run as a family but as a corporation that gives the family money but is not family based. If the family all passed away the corp. would continue on without them. A true family business continues only with the family and is the family doing the work. -
Texas Man in ICU After Getting J&J Vaccine...Has Delta Variant
John Young replied to BrotherTony's topic in General Chats
I'm not suggesting, I'm saying! And for anyone reading, I'm NOT saying Communisim is the solution as they are even more desperate to break up the family and make people into slave workers. The only difference is the government is the only corporation allowed to control production. Biblically The family is supposed to be the strongest unit that controls their means of wealth through inherited land. Corporations and governments need to be checked by a nation of strong wealthy families or you will end op with governments (communism) or corporations (crony capitalism) oppressing them. -
Texas Man in ICU After Getting J&J Vaccine...Has Delta Variant
John Young replied to BrotherTony's topic in General Chats
I agree. The new order is about producing workers for corporations and not about producing and protecting the Family household. Its in the corporation's best interest for workers not to be independently wealthy, so lobby government to incentivize renting and loans vs personal land ownership and family business. Government likes it because they can get more money and power over poor workers vs wealthy families. -
Texas Man in ICU After Getting J&J Vaccine...Has Delta Variant
John Young replied to BrotherTony's topic in General Chats
Just like in the civil ware and great depression, etc the corporations always go after the land while its cheap. he who holds the land holds the power of the nation. Far fewer families are passing down the farm because of the oppressive government land and estate taxes and tend to sell them to corp. if they corp. doesn't just buy it for the taxes. The corp. can do that and turn around and get tax breaks the individual family can't get. -
Agreed its good to be reserved on most things especially when you have current medical issues that need to be monitored by a doctor. In my opinion those who social distance and keep away from others during a pandemic while consulting with their doctor on best practices for their condition, can wait until the long term trials are over before deciding to take it. Unfortunately, so many were hyped up by their respective "sides" that many either intentionally spread it by holding COVID parties or got so fearful that their initiated dangerous lockdown rules that were worse then the virus and that made it all but impossible to NOT get it. Not to mention the many people who were driven to fear that they went against medical waning not to take it because of their condition (or even hid their condition so they could) that they harmed themselves or even died from it As for the old style yearly Pneumonia or flu vaccines, I'm pretty healthy so I have no interest in getting them because of their toxic chemicals, side effects, ethical issues ect. Its interesting to note though, that the issues people had with the old style of vaccines are essentially eliminated by the new mRNA method of vaccine production which is safer, more natural, and effective.
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I don't see us as enemies either though were not necessarily on opposite sides. I don't trust the government on everything either. I'm very patriotic and liberty mined but I do understand a lot of the science behind the mRNA vaccines and a lot of the medical issues involved. The fundamentals of biological science are not the same as the politics of Fauci, a pharmaceutical corp. or the flavor of the day politician.
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I agree with many of your points but for #3 I don't agree with it's implication. The mRNA vaccines don't edit genes or change our DNA in any way (Nuclidic DNA vaccines do). Particularly because mRNA lack the enzymes and other things gene editing uses to enter the cell nucleus. Rather they use shared processes that were developed when researching gene therapy. Gene editing therapies/vaccines are dangerous and it long term effects are not known as genes work together in a very complicated process and changing just one part of one gene can have many unknown effects. However the mRNA process used for the vaccine is a reliable process that never touch DNA or Genes and has been in development for a long time. It essentially does what the virus does except instead of inducting your cells to make the whole virus, they tell the cells to make a harmless receptor protean similar to the one the virus uses to latch on to our cells. mRNA in works in cells like using a copier to make copies or like using a an email program to send out emails. Nuclidic gene editing on the other had would be like trying to redesign the copier or email program itself. Using the cells God made to do things they naturally do is easy (comparatively) but editing the programming of those same cells, not so much. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7076378/
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My motive is to figure out where you stand on the issue without needless back and forth and assumptions to what you actually believe about the issue. I read the articles you posted and your comments as well. Your answers will help me me see your actual viewpoint and if you fully believe the articles you posted or just only parts of what they say. If you only believe parts and your view is substantially different then there is no point in actually discussing their content.
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I'm not interested in "which side" did or didn't do the most damage. As a conservative I'm looking for leaders who give carefully measured responses that deal with an issue while they keep our liberties in mind. Not leaders who go to extremes because they can or to prove their loyalty to a party or ideology.
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Bible Belt and the Pandemic. Not a smart response.
John Young replied to Bouncing Bill's topic in General Chats
hydroxychloroquine by itself is not effective but as part of a drug regimen in in certain therapies has been effective a reducing symptoms of the infection so that people don't die from it. The same health system that did the trials for the vaccine here in Michigan showed that certain drug therapies were helpful but that Vaccines are the preferred rout because the pills required hospitalization and Doctors care while a vaccine does not. https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study (By the way Pfizer will be coming out with a pill which can be taken at home that kills the virus for those already infected but it will be out only after the long term trials are done. https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-initiates-phase-1-study-novel-oral-antiviral)- 39 replies
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Welcome to the group Brother Lance. A few here also are working through health issues and will be praying for you all as well. Hopefully you will find some comfort and Engorgement through this group and maybe even a little diversion from the physical through the conversations here. May God Bless as you do your best for Him.
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I was told a while ago that Pass Phrases are the better way to go. Our company has us change ours every 90 days.
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Do You Prefer a Hard-Copy of the Bible or One in Digital Format?
John Young replied to BrotherTony's topic in General Chats
For research and online conversations I like digital but for all others I use a physical bible. -
Is this what the world thinks of America now?
John Young replied to Pastor Matt's topic in Current Events / News
Probably Gary Johnson. ? -
Biden's Door to Door Vaccine Encounters
John Young replied to wretched's topic in End Times/Bible Prophecy
Can't wait until all the people point out their no soliciting signs to the gov. workers and get told it doesn't apply....lol. May be that'll help for when we go out... ? -
I would still like you to answer my two questions as I'm trying to have an actual conversation with what you believe fundamentally and scientifically on the topic. A clear and simple yes or no to each will let me know if you actually agree with the article you posted and then with those simple answers we can actually have a productive conversation. I'm not interested in all that other speculative stuff about big pharma, governments or etc. Theirs no real substance there. So far all your non-answers to my questions does not give an solid foundation for a real conversation. I agree with you about proper health etc. and a simple straight forward answer will help build that.
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Biden's Door to Door Vaccine Encounters
John Young replied to wretched's topic in End Times/Bible Prophecy
So much for social distancing. the thing they condemned churches for doing ....and the thing liberals say doesn't work for reaching people.... they are now going to do! lol