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  1. “Israel’s 144,000. Signed, Sealed, Delivered and Restored.” Signed: “But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judæa flee to the mountains:” ~ Mark 13:14 “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?” ~ 2 Thessalonians 2:3-5 “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” ~ Revelation 13:18 (Ezekiel 8:1 And it came to pass in the sixth year, in the sixth month, in the fifth day of the month,...) “Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land. 3 Now is the end come upon thee, and I will send mine anger upon thee, and will judge thee according to thy ways, and will recompense upon thee all thine abominations. 4 And mine eye shall not spare thee, neither will I have pity: but I will recompense thy ways upon thee, and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.” ~ Ezekiel 7:1-4 “He cried also in mine ears with a loud voice, saying, Cause them that have charge over the city to draw near, even every man with his destroying weapon in his hand. 2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man a slaughter weapon in his hand; and one man among them was clothed with linen, with a writer’s inkhorn by his side: and they went in, and stood beside the brasen altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel was gone up from the cherub, whereupon he was, to the threshold of the house. And he called to the man clothed with linen, which had the writer’s inkhorn by his side; 4 and the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.” ~ Ezekiel 9:1-4 “For the Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying, 12 Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. 13 Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread. 14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. 16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. 17 And I will wait upon the Lord, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. 18 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.” ~ Isaiah 8:11-18 “He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.” ~ John 3:33 Sealed: “And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.” ~ Revelation 7:1-4 “Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.” ~ 2 Timothy 2:19 “And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.” ~ Ephesians 4:30 Delivered: “But they that escape of them shall escape, and shall be on the mountains like doves of the valleys, all of them mourning, every one for his iniquity.” ~ Ezekiel 7:16 “And the glory of the Lord went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.” ~ Ezekiel 11:23 “And the Lord went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: 22 he took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.” ~ Exodus 13:21-22 “And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: 20 and it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night.” ~ Exodus 14:19-20 “And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” ~ Revelation 12:13-15 “When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the Lord’s portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance. 10 He found him in a desert land, and in the waste howling wilderness; he led him about, he instructed him, he kept him as the apple of his eye. 11 As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings: 12 so the Lord alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.” ~ Deuteronomy 32:8-12 “And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name’s sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.” ~ Matthew 19:28-29 Restored: “And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 and they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.” ~ Revelation 14:1-5 “Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself. 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 and ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.” ~ Exodus 19:4-6 “Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles. 3 I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger, even them that rejoice in my highness. 4 The noise of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous noise of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: the Lord of hosts mustereth the host of the battle. 5 They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land. 6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. 7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man’s heart shall melt: 8 and they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. 9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.” ~ Isaiah 13:2-10 “The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. 16 The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. 17 So shall ye know that I am the Lord your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.” ~ Joel 3:15-17 Zechariah 14:1-9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee. 6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light. 8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be. 9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one. “And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. 15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.” ~ Amos 9:14-15
  2. I could say its Zion giving birth to believing Israel (the 144,000) who are symbolically giving birth to FAITH in Christ. The past birth of Christ into Israel was physical this birth into Israel is Spiritual by faith. So in one point I agree, they are born, but that birth is singular, its faith in Christ. But before they can be with him, He is caught up and they must wait in the wilderness until chapter 14. Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. Isaiah 8:18 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
  3. [Note: “Israel Gives Birth to Christ in Revelation 12” ~ John Young] “The Nation of Israel as Represented In Revelation 12” By Maurice Young, February 7, 2007 The identity of the “women” in Revelation 12 is of importance to the serious students of the scriptures as it is the object of Satan’s attack and God’s protection. As usual, the correct interpretation of the passage and its context will lead to a correct conclusion. Therefore, the scriptures are the final source of authority as to the identity of the woman in Revelation 12. From Revelation 6:1 to Revelation 18:24 the context is the time of “Jacob’s Trouble”, or the 7-year Tribulation Period. The “times of the Gentiles” and God again deals primarily with the sons of Jacob, the nation of Israel. Revelation 12:1 is a direct reference to the 12 sons of Jacob (Israel) as taught in Genesis 37:5-10 in the two dreams that God gave to Joseph. In Genesis 37:9 we read in the second dream, “And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it to his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.” This is a direct reference to the 12 tribes of Israel as written in Revelation 12:1. Dr. Harold B. Sightler correctly states, “The women is symbolic of the twelve tribes of Israel, the people of Israel.” ~ [Dr. Harold B. Sightler, Revelation, (Greenville, SC: The Bright spot Hour, n.d.), 161] This woman giving birth in typology is consistent throughout the Old Testament as a reference to the nation of Israel. Jeremiah 4:31 is one example. “For I have heard a voice as of a woman in travail, and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hands, saying, Woe is me now! For my soul is wearied because of murderers.” In the scriptures, and throughout the history of other nations, a dragon is a symbol of Satan. Satan is an adversary to God and to His people, the sons of Israel. In Revelation 12:6 we read that the woman flees into the wilderness by the protecting hand of God due to the persecution of the dragon. In the scriptures, the only nation said to have journeyed in a wideness is the nation of Israel. In typology this is a direct reference to the nation of Israel. Clarence Larkin brings out, “As the ‘Woman’ and the dragon are symbols, so are the ‘Eagle's Wings’. They speak of the rapid and swift flight of the ‘Women’ (Israel) into the ‘Wilderness’ where she shall be safely kept and nourished for 3 ½ years until the Dragon is bound”. ~ [Clarence Larkin, The Book of Revelation, (Glenside, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate, 1919), 99.] As we consider our interpretation of Revelation12 and notice the reference to the “man child” we can only come to the conclusion that eh man child is a reference to the Lord Jesus Christ, Since the man child is a reference to Christ the only inescapable conclusion, based upon scripture, is that the woman is Israel. Romans 9:4 & 5 clearly states, “Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of Gog, and the promises; Whose are the fathers, and of the whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.” The Faithful interpreter of scripture can only come to the conclusion that the “woman” in Revelation 12 is a direct reference to the nation of Israel.
  4. No point in discussing a rapture if you aren't even clear on the last day. At this point I would settle for when YOU think the last day actually is. Are your referring to the last day of mankind's rule at the return of Christ at the first resurrection or one thousand years later at the Great White Throne when the kingdom is given to God at the final 2nd Resurrection? You are using verses for both as if they were all the same, yet one has a thousand more days to go. And what do you think of other raisings?
  5. Okay, Thankyou. That person's views in no way help this conversation as he thinks Christians "can lose their salvation" (Its not ours to lose) and has a very lose interpretive style with the scriptures. Also I don't see how his arguments against the pre-tib line up with your comments here on teh Last Day. So I won't waste any time discussing his video or arguments. Jesus is enough. I just don't agree that the last day is the same thing as the rapture for the reasons I previously stated. First, I need to see what you think a rapture really is before I can give you a verse "debunking" anything as I already showed you that I agree with Jesus on the last day and on the two resurrections separated by one thousand years. I also showed you clear verse that show more than one type of "rising" so merely showing verse on the final "Last Day" (which we both agree will occur on its given day), you need to show that the rapture of the church isn't a prior event. The rapture of saints (ie Enoch, Elija, the church saints who are in the Spirit, etc) does not negate the resurrection of the last day. They are all in agreement as shown in scripture.
  6. Do you agree with this group's other teachings in their entirety or are you merely referencing this one video because it purports to be debunking the pre-tribulation rapture?
  7. I never said they didn't. Rather they apply to the Great White Throne Judgment when Jesus raises us up to the new heavens and new earth. Also this final raising is not the rapture of the church to heaven nor is it the resurrection to the millennium of those who are in Christ Jesus. I stated the following in regard to the final "Last Day". The bible makes reference to several last days (plural) and several endings. So when making reference to a "Last Day" or any ending we also need to be clear which one that is being referenced. ie. some of them are, the last day of the great feast (John 7:37), or the last day of the gospel ministry (Matthew 24:14) or the last trump of Revelation indicating the coming of Christ to earth to start the millennium (Revelation 11:15-18, 1 Corinthians 15:52), or the final judgement of God on the last day of the millennium (1 Corinthians 15:252 Peter 3:11-13,). etc. I also pointed out that there are special groups that are raised, raptured, or resurrected, before that final day. Finally, when it comes time for God to receive the kingdom, and judge the world with fire, the Righteous in Christ will be raised up while the wicked will be consumed. So it applies to all who are in Christ Jesus.
  8. Those are your assumptions. I have no interest in studying or arguing some dispensational template or teacher nor am I interested in wasting time trying to alleviate your assumptions about me personally. I've not gleaned this form a theology book but from the plain reading of scripture. Nor have I assumed that you are being led by some false teacher. I would like the same courtesy going forward as I'm only interested in discussing the scriptures as they are written, with my fellow brethren, so that we all can learn and grow in truth. I showed you this progression in context from the overview of Revelation, in 1 Corinthians 15:22-25, Revelation 20:4-6, 2 Peter 3:11-13, Daniel 12:1-4, and etc. And I could show more if it would make a difference to advance our discussion. However, I've shown enough scripture in its context above to show it's not just my imagination or "training". Perhaps you can address those passages rather than trying to deflect to accusations that I don't believe Christ or by trying to figure out what supposed false system of theology you can place me in. If you cannot do that then this is where we'll have to end our discussion.
  9. What is the progressive order of Christ's Revelation to Mankind on Earth? In this post we show six progressions as presented in the Book of Revelation. The Progressive Revelation of Christ. (according to the Book of Revelation) Admonishing the Churches: To preach the Gospel of Christ until the “here after”. (Chapters 1-5) Breaking the Seals: To prepare the world for the Revelation of Christ. (Chapters 5-7) Calling the Trumpets: To announce the Coming of Christ. (Chapters 8-11) Declaring the Thunders: To reveal God’s divine plan for Christ’s rule on Earth. (Chapter 10) Executing the Vials: To pour out judgment upon those who reject Christ’s rulership. (Chapters 15-20) Founding the City: The coming vision and nature of Christ's New Jerusalem. (Chapters 21-22)
  10. My answer wasn't elusive at all and clearly answered your question. Yet I will lay it out a bit more for you. This thread is primarily about the rapture, yet it does tie into the resurrection. I'll go further to show what it means for our final raising up at the last day. Hopely the following is clear. As shown above from 1 Corinthians 15:22-25 Paul clearly taught a 1. Rapture of the church and then 2. a resurrection of the tribulation saints and then 3. a final resurrection to the white throne of God. Are you denying this progression? Revelation clearly states that there are two resurrections separated by a thousand years. One for those in Christ Jesus raised and resurrected at his coming and one on the last day of the Millenium raised by God (Daniel 12:2-4). Revelation 20:4-6 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: [the Church] and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; [The tribulation saints, and 144,000/New Israel] and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Then cometh the end... (1 Corinthians 15:22-25)... "every man in his own order" This is not even to mention other raptures (taken, never dying) such as Enoch and Elijh and other raisings (died but raised to mortal life) such as Lazarus and other resurrections (from death to eternal life) such as those who rose with Christ at His crucifixion. All before the final last day resurrection. Daniel 12:1-4 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. [first resurrection] 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. [second resurrection] 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. [church and millennium ministry] 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. So. Many people will see (and have seen) Jesus before the "last day" and are resurrected to eternal life before the "last day" and many of us will rule and rein with him before the "last day" and so too will all born into his millennial kingdom, saved and lost, will see him rule before the last day. So, the resurrection of the believers is in and by Christ as he as ordered. This is all to say that on the last day Christ will raise us all up when he gives the Kingdom to God to be judged on the last day of this old heaven and earth so that we are not consumed by the fervent heat of its destruction. We will be resurrected into the new heavens and the new earth by being In Christ Jesus on the last day. 2 Peter 3:11-13 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. (1 Corinthians 15:22-25....when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father;) Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Philippians 3:8-11 ... 9 and be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10 that I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11 if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
  11. Nope, I'm not denying the resurection. Yet even in resurrection there is a progression. 1 Corinthians 15:22-25 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. [the promise] But every man in his own order: [the progression] 1. Christ the firstfruits; [Christ's church body] 2. afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. [the first fruits of the Nation/Tribulation Saints] 3. Then cometh the end, [2nd/ final resurrection] when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
  12. Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, ...12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 and in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, ... 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: ... 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. ... 20 the mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
  13. Agreed. I would also take it a step further and ask why not just take it progressively as laid out in revelation?
  14. I never got this from him nor do he and I share the same views on other aspects of the end times. I think he believes "this generation" refers to a physical generation. It's purely evident from the context of the passage that its referring to the same generation of Chapter 23.
  15. “‘This Generation’ is Spiritual” By John Young “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” ~ Matthew 24:34 Many end times theologies use “this generation” in Matthew 24:34 as a physical generation because it works better that way with their end times theology. They present it as either the physical generation alive when Jesus preached these words or as a future physical generation that will live when the events would start to occur some time in the unknown future. Those who say the events were on those of the past are called Preterist (who believe the events partially or fully finished around 70 A.D.). Those who say some or all have not occurred are called futurist and are looking for the events to start in order to identify which “this generation” it will be. These two positions are generally read into the text from already formed viewpoints rather than the context itself. Yet, contextually Matthew 24:34 is clearly connected to chapter 23 which states, in verse 33 “ Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” and verse 36, “Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.” When we study Chapter 23 we see “this generation” is referring to the spiritual generation who’s father is the devil (John 8:44) but they physically lived among and appeared outwardly as Israelites who claimed to follow God. The passage goes on to state in verse 35 that this generation was present to persecute the righteous generation from Able to Zacharias (about 4,000 years) and would continue to be present until the events of Matthew 24-25 comes to pass to rid them out of the land of Israel. Contextually this means that both spiritual generations have been on earth from the time of Cain and Able (1 John 3:12) and will be in Israel, and in the world, until the end when Christ our deliverer returns to the land to purge out “this generation” of vipers and save us. In Matthew 13:30 He states of these spiritual generations, “Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.” Paul the Apostle also states of this time that God is waiting for the gentiles to fully enter in before this purging will take place. Romans 11:25-27 says “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 for this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.” Matthew 23:38-39, in connection to Paul’s Passage in Romans 11, goes on to state that God is waiting for the Israel to repent of this generation and say “Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord” before He will fully complete the promise of deliverance form their evil generation. Christ says, “Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.” In regard to end times, knowing “this generation” is the “Generation of vipers” of chapter 23 means the evil people will persecute righteous people “till all these things be fulfilled”. Seeing “this generation” is still with us means we are still waiting for the final Olevet fulfillment. This final fulfillment is waiting on several things to come to pass first as noted, 1. For the gentiles to fully come in (Romans 11:25), 2. For Israel the nation to repent and turn to Christ (Matthew 23:39), and 3. For their house (the temple in Jerusalem) to not be desolate (Matthew 23:38). Until then “this generation” will remain among us. As stated in Matthew 25:46 the final fulfillment will happen with their departure. “And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
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