Alan

Seeing the electoral process being corrupted by fraud, of all types, is a sad thing to witness. It is no wonder that the majority of Americans are frustrated. Biden, and the rest of the Democratic party, ought to be ashamed. But, it is apparent that the fraud was premeditated by those with no conscience. 

It is my prayer that the Supreme Court of the United States steps in to stop the fraudulent electoral process in Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and do re-counts in Wisconsin.

If the Supreme court does not do so, than I fear that the United States is not a country run by law.

It seems to me that President Trump was on the way to win the presidential election by a wide margin. When the Democratic controlled  electoral process saw an obvious Trump win the States left ( Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Michigan), with a Democratic controlled electoral process stopped the election process, denied legal observers to observe the process, allowed ballots to come in after November 4th., and let a multitude of fraudulent ballots be counted for Biden.

Already as we speak, YouTube, the major news media, Twitter, etc.. is trying desperately to stop any rational discussion and legal remedy.

Here is a video for your consideration and information.

Unless the Juridical process stops this illegal method of the electoral process the United States will be considered a 'banana Republic,' that is run by the Socialists, Communists, anarchists, and anyone else with a personal vendetta against the Constitution of United States.

On 11/3/2020 at 3:58 AM, Bouncing Bill said:

Ephesians, 4:31-32

 

Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:

 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Brethren,

The above verses, Ephesians 4:31 & 32, that Bouncing Bill has quoted is not correct. He neglected to inform us (which is not proper nor correct), what version of the Bible he has quoted from, and the proper scripture reference. 

It is from the New International Version, the NIV, and not from the King James Version. The usage of different versions causes dissension, anger, malice, wrath and exhibits deception.

As this is a King James Version forum, it would be proper, correct, and kind to one another, to use the King James Version. Furthermore, in order to avoid malice and clamour, and to exhibit kindness and to prevent confusion and dissension, I will quote from the King James Version instead of the New International Version (the NIV).

Also, as Ephesians chapter 4 only has 32 verses, I will only quote Ephesians 4:31 & 32, "Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: And be ye kind  one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God hath forgiven you."

Bouncing Bill was not correct in his numbering of the scripture verses he quoted. Some folks that are not familiar with the Bible would find this confusing and be without understanding. So, in order to walk in love and help the brethren who may not be familiar with the Word of God, I will give the correct scripture that Bouncing Bill neglected to inform us of.

The latter part of his quote is from Ephesians 5:1 & 2. Also, Bouncing Bill quoted from the NIV and not from the KJV.

So, in order to prevent any confusion, here is the correct, proper, and inspired quote, "Be ye followers of God, as dear children; And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling savour." Ephesians 5:1 & 2

When a person walks in love he does not deceive, cause confusion among brethren, and deliberately try to provoke anger and wrath by using a different version of the Bible and neglecting to inform the hearers what version he is quoting from and neglect to give the correct scripture reference. 

Sam Storms, the lead pastor at "Bridgeway Church," led the Acts 29 Movement to adopt the "5 Doctrinal Distinctives" , not called a, "Doctrinal Statement of Faith," for their churches. The "5 Doctrinal Distinctives" is very broad, ambiguous, emerging church statement, Calvinistic, and designed to accept any church in their movement. Member churches can have their own doctrinal statement; but, these individual doctrinal statements are considered, and I quote Sam Storms verbatim, "...doctrines of second importance." In the video below Sam Storms belittles the "Statements of Faith," found in churches not in the Acts 29 Movement.

If a church does join the  Acts 29 Movement their church doctrinal Statement of Faith is of no importance  to the leaders of, and subservient to, the Acts 29 Movement's "5 Doctrinal Distinctives." Here is the link to the Sam Storms "5 Distinctives" statement:

https://www.bridgewaychurch.com/

Also, if you look closely at the "5 Doctrinal Distinctives," they did not use the King James Version, has no real doctrinal distinctives (the Trinity, Sin, Salvation, the Second Coming, Heaven, Hell, the Scriptures, etc),  and were ambiguous.

Also, may notice in the link to the "Bridgeway Church" main web-page, you will clearly notice the "Rock" band.

As far as I am concerned, the Acts 29 Movement is non-biblical, is emergent church, pleasure-seeking, worldly, liberal, and Calvinistic. The end result is an ecumenical mess of pottage that will destroy any church that aligns itself with the Movement.

The Acts 29 church movement is part of the 'emerging' church. Numerous folks in leadership positions in the Acts 29 Movement have been removed due to sexual misconduct. There is no solid doctrinal statement to be found, somewhat Calvinist, ecumenical, and it is apparent the leaders of the movement will accept just about anybody in any position.

Jim Alaska is correct on his assessment of the Acts 29 Movement and Ephesians 4:14, "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive," seems appropriate to describe the Acts 29 Movement perfectly.

In spite of the COVID-19 business restrictions.

In spite of the malicious attacks on President Trumps character, abilities, and other negative verbal attacks on him, the economy, GDP, of the United States grew 33.1 percent in the last quarter.

The business acumen and the leadership of President Donald Trump is great for the United States of America.

Here is the link to the article on the last quarter GDP expanding 33.1 per cent:

https://thenewamerican.com/third-quarter-gdp-beat-expectations-adds-momentum-to-trump-campaign/

Here are some quotes from within the article:

Chris Williamson, chief business economist at IHS Markit, said earlier this week that “the U.S. economy looks to have started the fourth quarter on a strong footing” while reporting that “business optimism surged higher” last month as well.

Retail sales, both online and at stores, rose again in September for the fifth straight month. And the “Beige Book” released by the Fed last week showed “economic activity contin[uing] to increase across all [12] districts … including manufacturing … [and] housing.”

Such optimism was reflected by the Conference Board’s CEO Confidence Index as well, with “a solid 70 percent of top executives [saying that] economic conditions were better compared to six months ago … [and] 64% expect[ing] economic conditions to improve in the next six months, while only 15% see them worsening.”

The president echoed Murtaugh: “The really big factor in this election is the fact that Joe Biden and Kamala want to raise your taxes and raise them like nobody’s ever been raised before,” adding that the Biden-Harris proposed $4 trillion tax hike would “drive our country into depression.”

The Department of Commerce announced on Thursday that the U.S. economy grew in the third quarter at an annualized rate of 33.1 percent, beating forecasters’ expectations.

Please take careful note. If Biden and Kamala Harris are elected to the presidency the economy of the United States will decrease and the $4 trillion tax increase will devastate the economy and drive the United States into a depression

Here is a article where some high-profile lawyers German lawyers are in the process of suing the Leftists' Globalist Agenda for using the COVID-19 pandemic, initiated by the communist Chinese, and supported by the tyrants, anarchists, deceived individuals, in America, Europe, and the United nations in an effort to destroy our Constitution, Democracy, and the rule of law.

 Here is the Link: https://thenewamerican.com/huge-lawsuits-coming-against-covid-totalitarians-and-con-artists/

And here are some of the excerpts from the article:

"Totalitarians and con-artists who hyped and exploited the coronavirus panic to steal freedom and destroy livelihoods are in the crosshairs, facing the wrath of a team of high-profile international lawyers and doctors determined to seek justice.

The effort to use the judicial system against the weaponization of the pandemic features a growing global coalition of doctors and scientists, all of whom are speaking out against what they view as a dangerous disinformation campaign to justify tyranny.

Fuellmich also argued that fraudulent testing was being used to create a panic aimed at justifying the tyranny.

Among his most serious concerns is that because of the “deliberate panic-mongering” by the COVID hysteria peddlers, self-government and democratic rule “is in great danger of being replaced by fascist totalitarian models.”

“This corona crisis, according to all we know today, must be renamed a corona scandal; and those responsible for it must be criminally prosecuted and sued for civil damages.”

Hundreds of other experts and doctors have also spoken out, only to be censored by the Big Tech companies."

On 9/13/2018 at 9:35 PM, Alan said:

Omega,

I appreciate your thoughts.

The above quotation from you is the the same thought in one my future lessons on the local church. In one of my previous lessons I mentioned that the Lord Jesus is the invisible head of the local church: Revelation 1:11. Eventually, I hope, we will be discussing that all of the 7 churches in Asia, Revelation 1:11-3:22, were local churches. A lot of the churches in our age, as you said, are "... a little more than social get-togethers." 

I appreciate your comments. They are a helpful addition to this study.

Alan

Brethren,

As I previously mentioned, "...eventually..." we will discuss the 7 churches in Asia as recorded in Revelation 1:11 to chapter 3:22.

I am in the process of starting this study on the 7 churches in Asia.

So, please study Revelation 1:11 to chapter 3:22 in preparation for this study on the local church.

God bless you all.

Alan
 

Is it possible to send funds by check, instead of a credit card, to them personally, or to a church? If so, can you give us an address? or, a personal, or church, webpage to got too?

One of, there are many, of the tactics of the Socialists, the Communists, and their followers, or the haters of our Democratic, Republican,  Constitutional form of government, is to bankrupt the people, or the city, or the state, or the Federal government, in order to get rid of our freedoms and install a Socialist or Communist government.

Folks, this of how a Socialist, or Communist, or their sympathizers, are trying to destroy  our freedoms here in America by destroying our economy. The New York mayor, de Blasio, is bankrupting New York in order to destroy our economy.  

Sureword,

First of all, I think Pastor Markle explains my thoughts and I appreciate his post.

Secondly, I would like to reference (linked below), you to an earlier comment on the subject of voting for a  "politician" or a "pastor" that may further enhance your knowledge of my thoughts. I am lamenting the fact that in times past a politician, even most Democrats, had "character." 

I firmly believe that President Trump is the most qualified individual to function, within the bounds of the Constitution of the United States and will keep us free from the the anti-American, anti-Constitution, policies and practices, of the Socialist, Marxist ideology of the Democratic Party.   

I also firmly believe that if president Trump kept his mouth shut a lot of times and had better character, than he would be a better example, and more presidential, than he has been.

A vote for Biden- Harris, or Harris-Biden, is a vote for Socialism, or anarchy, or a  Communistic society here in America. A Biden-Harris administration will do away with almost all of the freedoms, especially the freedom of worship, we previously enjoyed and would entail more hatred, violence, and lawlessness we experience today.

A vote for the re-election of President Trump is a vote for our Democratic, or Republican, system of government to continue and a vote for increased safety from the Marxist rioters in the Democratic controlled states.

Alan

On 8/10/2016 at 9:23 PM, Alan said:

Excellent! 

1. Trump will not take away our constitutional right for freedom of worship and I believe he will stop the current governmental promotion of Islam. I am of the belief that Trump will not hinder the churches. I am of the opinion that Trump will help the chuches regain some of the rights to express our Christian more openly.

2. Trump will help the cause of the Jews and the nation of Israel. 

I sincerely hope so. Either way, Trump has let it be known by a public stance that he openly accepts Christianity.

I am very happy that this was brought out.

We are voting for the President of the United States, a public office, and not a church office. The qualifications for a man in the ministry is not the qualifications of a man seeking public office. Nor should Christians be limited to only to vote for dedicated Christians. When a man takes up arms and fights for his country he is fighting for the Constitution and for the government to follow the Constitution; not the qualifications for a church office. God gave the government to responsibility to defend (physically), the citizens. It is the responsibility of the man of God, the church, to stand up and defend the spiritual (doctrines), of the scriptures. I am not voting for a pastor.

Our thoughts on electing officials to run our government should be:

1. Will they follow the constitution?

2. Will they help America?

3. Will they abide by the laws of America?

4. Will they continue to permit the freedom of religion?

5. Will they allow open Christian activities? Witnessing in public. Distributing Bibles. Etc...

6. Will they hinder the church?

I am of the firm conviction that Trump will help the cause of the Lord Jesus and not hinder it. Trump knows that Christianity has helped democracy and not hindered it.

One of the reasons why Bill Clinton, Obama, and Hillary is against Christianity is that they are against democracy and our Constitution. They, and a lot of liberals, are either Socialist or Communists.
 

For the above reason stated by Ronda, some Christians would not vote for Ronald Reagan.

Ronald Reagan was hounded by the press continually, hated by the liberals, condemned by many liberal churches, and the list could go on.

Regards,

Alan

1 hour ago, SureWord said:

Are we voting for a politician or a pastor?

Sigh, yes, the "lesser of two evils," is prevalent among our elected officials.

The character, attitude, and personal life, of our elected officials in our age seem to reflect our society.

On 9/8/2020 at 3:21 AM, John Young said:

and to reclaim his earthly throne (The ark of the convent), as shown in the visions of Ezekiel. This throne will be transported to Israel’s desolate house (the Temple in Israel), upon which the Ani-Christ will attempt to claim by placing his image upon it (2 Thess 2:4, Ezekiel 8). This Act cause God's glory to appear upon the throne, who then directs seven angels judge the wicked and seal the righteous in the temple and in Jerusalem (Ezekiel 8). This event will anger the Anti-Christ who will then retaliate by initiating war against the saints who flee Jerusalem and enter the wilderness (Matthew 24:15-22). The anti-Christ will then initiate the “Great tribulation purge” by slaughtering any non-sealed but repentant people he can find and will reclaim the city (Psalm 79:1-4) but not the temple or the inner court which will be divinely protected so that he two prophets God chooses can witness in the inner court before the temple doors to the world (Revelation 11).

I appreciate the study and agree with most of it. The only thought that I have is that I do not see that the Temple in the tribulation period is the temple that we see as written in the book of Ezekiel. And, I understand your reference to Psalm 79:1-4 as many Jews will loose their lives at the Tribulation Temple. But, I see that Psalm 79:1-4 is a main reference to the destruction of Solomon's temple by Nebuchadnezzar. 

It has been my understanding the temple is Revelation 11 is a temple built by the Jews during, or just before, the 7-Year Tribulation and that the Temple in Ezekiel 40-48 is the Millennial Temple.

I hope you the best in your search for a good free online Bible study course. Keep us posted.

Brethren,

Here is the link to the PDF "Accurate Scientific Statements in the Bible."

Note on September 8, 2020: I had to revise the PDF copy to correct some formatting, grammatical and other minor errors. Here is the link to the updated PDF copy. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Alan

https://preceptpublications.org/Accurate Statements Bible Internet 09.08.20.pdf

I am considering this thread on "Scientific Facts in the Bible" still open for discussion. Also, there is some new material in the PDF manuscript. If a question, or a comment, in some part of the PDF manuscript that you want discussed, than please feel free to do so.

It is my hope that you may benefit, and be blessed, and realize the error of the evolutionary theory (not fact), from the "Accurate Scientific Statements in the Bible" manuscript. The more that I study the issue the more I realize the wonder of the creative acts of God in the Universe. 

May God richly bless all of you.

Alan

Brethren,

Among many other responsibilities that are too numerous to mention, I had to make modifications in my new website and manuscript.  In a day or two the PDF "Accurate Scientific Statements in the Bible" will be uploaded.

Alan

May God give you wisdom in your relationship with your cousin and bless your efforts in leading him to Christ. Maybe in this time of his serious trouble due his previous decisions he will see the eternal consequences of his actions and trust in Christ.

Hello Isaak and welcome to the forum.

Glad to know that you made the decision to start on the right path of Bible reading. As we read, study and meditate on the scriptures the Lord will guide you. "The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple." Psalm 119:130

Looking forward to some fine fellowship and discussions.

12 hours ago, John Young said:

Bible study is WORK (II Tim. 2:15), and a lazy man will live in ignorance. Cross-reference checking is an area where work must be applied. I say cross-references in distinction from other kinds of reference checking, such as dictionaries, maps, concordances, etc. Cross-referencing is the study of finding out what GOD says about His word, rather than what man says. Dictionaries, commentaries, and other books can be a great aid to Bible study, but not when they contradict God’s word.

Brethren,

Maybe if we took the words of John Young in the above quote we may arrive at his intended thoughts. Maybe if you looked at every word that John Young mentioned concerning "cross-referencing" you may understand his intentions better and find less fault or excuses to accept the reasoning for changing the Authorized Version by using the Greek and Hebrew.

Quite frankly, Every last translator of these modern versions, starting from the Revised Version of 1881, uses the Greek and Hebrew language (and all language difficulties), as a pretext to justify their changes to the Authorized Version, the King James Version of 1611.

Alan

Thank you for the link to Brother James Melton. Both of those links re-directed me to a Facebook page. I do not use Facebook so I found a link to a website link. http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/

President Donald Trump is promoting the message of Democracy and trying to combat Communism around the world. A case in point is Taiwan. Taiwan is a democratic nation ruled by LAW as written in their Constitution. The Democracy of Taiwan is in stark contrast to the Communist Chinese that rules by rule of force, intimidation, and coercion, in mainland China. Taiwan is Free China.

The Constitution of Taiwan, the Republic of China, initiated by Sun Yat Sen, followed by Chaing Kai Shek, and fully implemented by President Lee Deng Hui (who died last week), and is patterned after the Constitution of the United States.

While Communist Chinese planes intimidated Taiwan, President Trump sent Mr. Alex Azar, US Secretary of Health and Human Services, the highest-level official meeting since 1979 to visit the freely elected President of Taiwan, Miss (Taiwan has a female President), Tsai Ing-wen, to confer together concerning Taiwan's excellent COVID-19 response.

The Taipei Times reported, "President Tsai Ing-wen (蔡英文) yesterday met with US Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar in the highest-level official meeting between the two nations since 1979." 1

1Taipei Times, Tsai meets Azar at Presidential Office, Accessed on: 11 Aug. 2020. Available from:  

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/08/11/2003741463 Internet.

Cabinet Secretary Alex Azar related President's Trump's support for Taiwan, “It is a true honor to be here to convey a message of strong support and friendship from [US] President [Donald] Trump to Taiwan,” 2

Cabinet Secretary Alex Azar talked about Taiwan's excellent COVID-19 success and Taiwan's democratic values, “Taiwan’s response to COVID-19 has been among the most successful in the world, and that is a tribute to the open, transparent, democratic nature of Taiwan’s society and culture.” 3

2Taipei times, Tsai meets Azar at Presidential Office, Accessed on 11 Aug. 2020. Available from:  https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/08/11/2003741463 Internet.

3Taipei Times, Tsai meets Azar at Presidential Office, Accessed on: 11 Aug. 2020.https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/08/11/2003741463  Internet.

For everybody's information, Lin Yutang was a prolific Chinese writer. Born in China, his father was a minister, but, Lin became a pagan, and after a period of time, due to his wife's influence, became a Christian. Lin eventually moved to Taiwan, where his books are popular ( I have a couple of his books), and he died in Taipei, Taiwan.

Due to Lin's changing of his philosophy, religion, country of residence, and political views, his writings sometimes conflict.

Here is a Wikipedia article about Lin Yutang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Yutang

Here is Lin Yutan's Chinese name:  林語堂,

False religions usually either start with a false prophet, or false teacher, and then usually, eventually, create a false Bible to supplant the real set of scriptures.

For example. The Mormons started with a false prophet (Joseph Smith) and wound up having a set of false scriptures, the Book of Mormon.

Mohammad, a false prophet, eventually had a false set of scriptures, the Quran, to supplant the real Bible. Here is the link to the Wikipedia article that has a more detailed history of the Quran.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran

Here is a somewhat abbreviated, but very good idea, of the Quran, by the David Wood website, "Acts17Aploigetices," that may give us more practical insight of the Quran, the author, Mohammad, and the results of obedience by the Muslims; Jihad, and the killing of the Apostates (non-Muslims).

Here is the link to the Wikipedia article, Sharia Law, how the Quran, the Muslims, want to replace the laws of all the countries of the world, including the Constitution of the United States, with Sharia Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

SureWord and all Concerned,

I understand what you said and I am very thankful for your support for Trump.

My thoughts are this. I did not want anybody to derail this thread by discussing the pro and cons of the riots, nor do I want those who detest President Trump, or his policies, to derail it by changing the subject.  

If, for example, we let this thread continue on the riots, even though we are against the rioters, than the thread would be derailed by those who will take opposite sides and take advantage of the dissension within this thread to force the moderators, or force me to ask the moderators, to close this thread.

One of the reasons, in spite of opposition to the subject matter of this thread, that this thread is still active after three years running, is that I keep a very narrow focus on the subject matter. I deliberately keep the focus very narrow and very limited in scope and sometimes appear, guilty as charged: 'touchy.'  I am sorry if I offended you and it is my desire to have you an active participant in this thread and in my other threads.

SureWord, it is my hope that as you, and anyone else concerned with the good things president Trump has accomplished to benefit America, to search the news, and when you find an article, or a speech, that fits the criteria of this thread, to include that article, or speech, in this thread.

May God continue to Bless America through the good actions of our elected leaders.

Alan