Jim_Alaska

1 Corinthians 12:28 (KJV) And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. The Apostles were the first members of the first church. As such, Jesus was speaking to them in church capacity. Your opinion is just that, your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I am not required to agree with it. You seem to have a real problem with church authority. It makes me wonder if you even attend a church as a member and what kind of church that could possibly be, since you deny the authority of a New Testament church to baptize.

Just for clarification, my usage of this phrase: "Secessionism has nothing to do with it," Was meant in the context of having nothing to do with my personal beliefs, not that it may have credence with others. I believe what I believe because of biblically example and scriptural truth, which many Baptists have also held to for centuries.

Its not bad Tony. I had mine done when I was 45, I am 80 now and don't regret having them done and never have. You will be so glad you did it once it heals and you find you can eat anything. They will put you out to pull them all. From personal experience and as a possible help; you may want to try not using any type of denture adhesive. I used it for a few years and hated the process of having to scrape off the adhesive every night. On the advice of a friend that had dentures, I tried not using any adhesive and was amazed that after I got used to it, they stayed put just fine and I could eat anything.

Robert, I care not what the Catholica church teaches. I am a Baptist. The great commission and the authority to baptize was given to the Apostles, who incidentally were the first members of the first church. Secessionism has nothing to do with it and I am not in agreement with it either. What is it that you cannot understand regarding them being the members of the first church? The authority to baptize was given to them in church capacity, not as individuals. Once again you quote scripture and refuse to abide by board rules by quoting from something other than the KJV. You have been told about this more than once. Because of this I am issuing you a warning. Also, just in case you have not read the rules, which is obvious, I want to tell you up front that our board holds to a "three strikes and your out" position. What that means in plain language is simply that if you are issued three warnings you will be banned. Sorry but that is the board rule.

Matthew 28:16 (KJV) Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. This authority was not given to just anyone, it was given to His eleven disciples. These eleven comprised the first church, the church that Jesus built. As such, this Scripture shows that Jesus delegated His authority to His church. (and this church was local, by-the-way) Authority has a source and in this case that source is Jesus Himself; God in the flesh.

"Men" meaning mankind, as opposed to fishes. Mankind includes women.

That is simply because many modern day Baptists have no clue as to their roots. This is in part brought about by people blindly accepting articles like the ones you linked to. This is why I teach what I teach regarding Baptist history. 2 Timothy 2:2 (KJV) And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also. What I posted comes from actual history, not someone's opinion, or from someone ignorantly starting to teach Baptist history from a point sixteen hundred years after the actual fact. Perhaps their "brand" of Baptist history began in the times they quoted, but the fact is that true New Testament Baptist churches were in existence long before that. The first church at Jerusalem is solid testimony to this fact.

That article presumes to teach Baptist origin from a false starting point. I find it ludicrous for any Bible teacher to presume to teach about any subject without proper knowledge of the subject itself. This supposed teacher starts with "supposed" Baptists in England in the sixteenth century. It then cites Baptists coming out of the Separatist Movement of that time. The truth of the matter is that there were Baptists sixteen hundred years before this movement. That my friend makes The Separatists and those that they came out of, sixteen hundred years too late to be the church that Jesus built, or in other words too late to be a Baptist church. For sixteen hundred years there was no Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant Church, so there was nothing to be at odds with. The truth is quite the opposite, these (supposed) churches found themselves at odds with Baptist Churches simply because they were late comers in a world that already consisted of true New Testament Baptist Churches. This is the "first in time" concept (my words). First in time shows: Baptists, beginning with John the Baptist; Catholic, during the first three hundred years; Roman Catholic, beginning in the fourth century and finally the Reformation of 1560. These latecomers all purposed to create their own "brand" of Christianity, while adamantly rejecting the true churches already in existence.

Robert, Jesus never built two churches, it is either local or universal, but cannot be both, which your posts indicate by the term, "in Corinth is also part of the entire church Jesus came to build." You make the very same misapplication as all Universal Church people do; You cannot differentiate between the church as an institution as opposed to a church, singular. When scripture talks about more than one church, it always designates them and "churches." When scripture talks about the institution that Jesus built, it is designated and His "church" (an institution). As an institution it must be singular, but when indicating more than one it must be plural, "churches." Someone claiming to hold a PHD should be able to make this distinction. But then, this is why you are not Baptist and instead prefer to hold to a Non-denominational position, it is very convenient.

For someone that doesn't believe that, "Jesus would have us kill any human being in the womb," you make a pretty good set of pro-abortion, pro-choice arguments. As a matter of fact, most, if not all of your pro-abortion arguments are from those standpoints. 1. You admit that you don't know when "ensoulment" (your terminology) occurs, but then go right on to presume that it has to occur at a point after conception. 2. Your comparison of the valley of dry bones to the formation of a viable baby in the womb is ludicrous, unbiblical, uncharacteristic of a man with your professed theological education. Not to mention a perfect example of twisting Scripture to fit your belief, rather than allowing Scripture to form your belief. ensoulment is not a Biblical word, but assuming that you are trying to indicate when a " person" (my term) receives a soul, I would submit the following as an example: Jeremiah 1:5 (KJV) Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. I believe that this Scripture would (more than) indicate that God considered the Prophet a "person." Your use of the term "zygote" serves as nothing more than a pathetic attempt to dehumanize and lessen the fact that a "baby" in the womb is exactly that, a baby. If all of this seems harsh, it is meant to be so. I, as well as the God who formed me have no tolerance for baby killers, or those who support the pro-abortion platform.

WRONG...Sin brought these things about, not too much freedom.

That was supposed to be a picture, not a URL. But for some reason I couldn't post it as a picture. The steep roof is because the inside is very high with cross beams. Snow doesn't slide off of shingles. But we are putting on a new roof of metal, which will let snow slide. http://www.countrybaptistyreka.x10host.com/images/Inside.jpg

And now their members are highly encouraged to do actual letter writing instead of door to door witnessing.

That is probably because, being retired they don't do much public speaking and are not exposed to crowds like when they were in office.

TGL, it is not just because of the hearing. All former living presidents have lifetime Secret Service assigned to them, 24/7

I'll pray for the family's comfort and strength. It's good to know she was saved.

PastorMatt got it done. But I changed the title where you had "Our" instead of "Are" in the first word. I also corrected spelling in two other posts, just minor mistakes.

It had to be the seed of the woman or else Jesus would not have been virgin born.

"children" can also mean "followers."

As usual, the nuts come and the nuts go. But to his credit, I do have to admit that this one seems to be more nutty than most of the others we have dealt with. At least the others have only been false teachers trying to spread their lies. This one is a full blown Sociopath. And so, the nuts come and he nuts go and Online Baptist remains. It's interesting how Truth prevails and lies, hypocrisy, dishonesty and false prophets always end up the same...DEFEATED and GONE. Having fun now. PastorMatt asked a reasonable question. You claim to be disrespected while at the very same time disrespecting every person you have interacted with on this board. Hypocrite much???

Looney Tunes time.

As to your question about a parent that doesn't have the education, I can speak to that. I only have a sixth grade education and was able to home school my daughter through a full four years of high school.

I come here to message with others of like faith and order, and to fellowship. If I want to read the news, there are plenty of news outlets where I can read news.

These stupid GIF animations take up band width, someone has to pay for it...Pastor Matt. This is a message board, people message on a message board, there is no need for endless animations.