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  1. Not to be nit-picky, but the OT saints could not ascend to heaven until Jesus rose from the dead and sprinkled his blood on the mercy seat in heaven. That is why the scriptures say if Jesus is not raised, we are yet in our sins. 1 Cor 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. It is not enough that Jesus died for our sins, he had to also rise and sprinkle his blood on the mercy seat in heaven for our sins to be forgiven. This is what I believe the OT saints had to wait in Abraham's bosom for. Once Jesus sprinkled his blood on the mercy seat, our sins were atoned for, and now believers could be taken to heaven. I believe Jesus descended into Abraham's bosom, gave the OT saints the gift of the Holy Spirit, and then led them to heaven. Now paradise and the tree of life is in heaven as shown in Revelation 22:2. Gal 4:8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
  2. The devils do not want to go to hell, but that will not save them, because Jesus did not die for the devils, but men only. Mat 8:28 And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. 29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time? 30 And there was a good way off from them an herd of many swine feeding. 31 So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. These devils begged Jesus that if he must cast them out, that he not send them to hell to be tormented, but into the herd of swine. They did not want to go to hell. The devils believe in God and tremble (Jam 2:19), but they cannot be saved because Jesus did not die for them. And if Jesus did not die for you personally, you cannot be saved either, even if you believe.
  3. Psalms 51:5 is speaking of David's mother, not David. Men do not conceive, only women conceive. David said he was "conceived" in sin, meaning his mother was involved in some sort of sin when David was conceived. David had two sisters, Zeruiah and Abigail, whose father was Nahash the Ammonite. (1 Chr 2:15-16, 2 Sam 17:25), so his mother had relations with a non-Jew which was forbidden. David's father and brothers were all ashamed of him, twice when Samuel requested to see all of Jesse's sons, Jesse refused to present David. David's seven brothers were invited to this feast, while David had to keep the sheep. Only when Samuel insisted did Jesse finally present David to him, and David was chosen. But this passage shows there was some shame attached to David, most likely because of his mother. David did not look like his older brothers who were tall and handsome, David was short and not handsome. This also argues he had a different mother than his brothers. (1 Sam 16:1-13) David was the black sheep of his family and not treated well. In his shame in Psalm 51 for his sin with Bathsheba, David seems to believe what he had always been taught was true, that he was brought forth in shame and inferior to his brothers. You must rightly interpret scripture before you preach on it.
  4. Correct, Calvinism teaches another gospel; 1 Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Paul taught that Jesus died for "our" sins. No Calvinist who believes in Limited Atonement can honestly tell another person Jesus died for "our" sins as they do not believe Jesus died for all men. Calvinists all admit they do not know who the elect are. In fact, Calvinists do not know for certain they are elect, they just presume to be so. They do not know if Jesus died for them personally. Just because you believe something does not make it so. You could believe a gun was unloaded and put it to your head and pull the trigger, if it is loaded you will blow your head off. So, convincing yourself you are elect does not necessarily make it so, if Jesus did not die for all men, then no man can know for a certainty if Jesus died for him.
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    Thank you Brother Matt!
  6. Hi, my name is Wes, and I just signed up here as Winman. Some of you may know me from Baptist Board where I am temporarily banned for making "inflammatory posts" (translation- I refuted Calvinism with scripture). It is only temporary and I will be allowed to post there again soon. I was saved in a Baptist church 50 years ago when I was a ten year old boy in Panama City, Florida. It may have been Hugh Pyle that preached the fire and brimstone sermon that convinced me I needed Jesus Christ to save me from my sins, but I am not absolutely sure. I do know I asked Jesus to come into my heart and save me from my sins that day and I have not been the same since. I have always belonged to IFB churches and am pretty orthodox except in one area, I do not believe men are born guilty of Adam's sin (original sin). I do believe all men are born "flesh" with a propensity to sin, but I do not believe God judges men as "sinners" until they are old enough to know between good and evil (Ecc 7:29, Deu 1:39, Isa 7:16, Jon 4:11, Mat 18:3, 10, Luke chapter 15, Rom 7:9-11, 1 Pet 2:25 among others). This view of mine does not sit well with many Baptists, but I believe I can support it from MUCH scripture. Other than that, I am very conservative and King James only which is considered heretical at BB. That's OK, I believe the Word of God. I look forward to posting here, I especially enjoy debating Calvinism which I firmly believe is false doctrine. I have read some posts here and see I am not alone in this view. I do believe it is important to confront this doctrine, we are commanded to contend for the faith. Thanks.
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