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  1. Nice theory, but that is all it is, your personal theory without a word of scripture to support it. 

     

    The angels were created, we are directly told Satan was created in Ezekiel 28;

     

    Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
     
    This has to be Satan, because he was in the garden of Eden. We are told he was perfect in his ways from the day he was created TILL iniquity was found in him. 
     
    This is why Genesis 1:31 refutes the Gap Theory, because God saw "every thing he had made"  and behold, it was very good. This was the sixth day, and Satan had not rebelled yet. 
     
    I think you are making a big unsupported assumption that the angels were created before everything else that was created in Genesis 1.
     
    Psa 148:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
    2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
    3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
    4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
    5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.
    6 He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass.
    7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
    8 Fire, and hail; snow, and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word:
    9 Mountains, and all hills; fruitful trees, and all cedars:
    10 Beasts, and all cattle; creeping things, and flying fowl:

     

    The angels are included with everything else we are told were created in Genesis 1 here, the sun, moon, stars, the heavens, the waters above the heavens, the mountains, hills, trees, beasts and cattle, creeping things, etc... 

     

    These are all the things we are told were created in Genesis 1, but here the angels are included among them. This argues this is speaking of one creation event. 

  2. the reason I believe the creation time of Angles, Arch angels, Cherubim, chrerubs, Seraphim, and the throne of God are not found in our bible is because they were not created during the 6 day work.  There is a difference between made and created.  and the fact that the earth was without form and void can only be interpreted in how it is usedin scriptures which shows that something was and then laer was destroyed.

     

    We are given only a limited understanding the Fall of the Anointed cherub, Lucifer because we need only understand that evil, darkness and sin were first found in him before the six day work of God in Gen 1:3-31

     

    Nice theory, but that is all it is, your personal theory without a word of scripture to support it. 

     

    The angels were created, we are directly told Satan was created in Ezekiel 28;

     

    Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
    14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
    15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
    16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
     
    This has to be Satan, because he was in the garden of Eden. We are told he was perfect in his ways from the day he was created TILL iniquity was found in him. 
     
    This is why Genesis 1:31 refutes the Gap Theory, because God saw "every thing he had made"  and behold, it was very good. This was the sixth day, and Satan had not rebelled yet. 
     
    I think you are making a big unsupported assumption that the angels were created before everything else that was created in Genesis 1.
     
    Psa 148:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
    2 Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
    3 Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
    4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.
    5 Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created.
    6 He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass.
    7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:
    8 Fire, and hail; snow, and vapour; stormy wind fulfilling his word:
    9 Mountains, and all hills; fruitful trees, and all cedars:
    10 Beasts, and all cattle; creeping things, and flying fowl:

     

    The angels are included with everything else we are told were created in Genesis 1 here, the sun, moon, stars, the heavens, the waters above the heavens, the mountains, hills, trees, beasts and cattle, creeping things, etc... 

     

    These are all the things we are told were created in Genesis 1, but here the angels are included among them. This argues this is speaking of one creation event. 

  3. I chose to believe in a gap.  If you do not agree that is fine but let's not attack each other for my personal view.  the issue of a Gap is a non-essential issue and is of no cause to divide or hurt our relationship as Christians.

     

    Gen 1:31 refutes the Gap Theory. 

     

    Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

     

    On the sixth day God looked and saw "every thing" he had made, and behold, it was "very good". Satan and the fallen angels had not rebelled against God yet, so it is impossible there was a gap with rebellion and death between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2. 

     

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